Somebody Care to tell me How WVU is a favorite over KSU?

convick · 10-15-12, 07:06 PM

They are favored because they are at home. That simple. If game was in Kansas, game would probably be at PK. I don't see why KState should be favored in this game, at all. I wouldn't be surprised if WV won by double digits.

Louisvillekid1 · 10-15-12, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by convick

They are favored because they are at home. That simple. If game was in Kansas, game would probably be at PK. I don't see why KState should be favored in this game, at all. I wouldn't be surprised if WV won by double digits.

KSU should be -7 @ home and I'd gladly play them in that situation...

WVU win by DD! HAHA, Most overrated team in the country...

They will begin to fall apart...

Brock Landers · 10-15-12, 07:09 PM

WVU is a really good team, They are at home. Its obvious guy

sneakerhead · 10-15-12, 07:11 PM

ksu ml guey

salud!

hougigo · 10-15-12, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by Brock Landers

WVU is a really good team, They are at home. Its obvious guy

Well, definitely feeling better about KSU now

Louisvillekid1 · 10-15-12, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by Brock Landers

WVU is a really good team, They are at home. Its obvious guy

KSU is a national title contender, WVU is all hype...

People see WVU put up points and think they are a really good team, it makes no sense...

You can't continue to win the way they play against good teams.

Hell JJ could gameplan against them...

Louisvillekid1 · 10-15-12, 07:14 PM

They can't run, they can't tackle, and they blow several defensive assignments on each play...

People think they are a really good team, unreal...

hougigo · 10-15-12, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

They can't run, they can't tackle, and they blow several defensive assignments on each play...

People think they are a really good team, unreal...

I'm thinking defense to offense ratio for their opponents

NYSportsGuy210 · 10-15-12, 07:16 PM

Collin Klein is a beast.

Brock Landers · 10-15-12, 07:17 PM

WVU WILL win this game...no doubt about it

LT Profits · 10-15-12, 07:20 PM

Yes this line seems almost backwards, KST should be in the -1.5 to -2.5 range on the road, -7.5 to -9 range at home. I mean Texas was -7.5 at home vs. WVA, and KST is a lot better then Texas. I like Kansas State Money line here.

CanuckG · 10-15-12, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by convick

They are favored because they are at home. That simple. If game was in Kansas, game would probably be at PK. I don't see why KState should be favored in this game, at all. I wouldn't be surprised if WV won by double digits.

Don't like seeing Brock on WVU but line seems fair. Forget about their defense but do you expect Geno Smith to struggle again? Especially playing at home they will come out fired up after last week. Tough game to call most likely pass.

LT Profits · 10-15-12, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by Brock Landers

WVU WILL win this game...no doubt about it

I can't back a team that ranks 122nd out of 124 FBS teams in pass defense against Kansas State, especially as a favorite.

Da Manster! · 10-15-12, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Yes this line seems almost backwards, KST should be in the -1.5 to -2.5 range on the road, -7.5 to -9 range at home. I mean Texas was -7.5 at home vs. WVA, and KST is a lot better then Texas. I like Kansas State Money line here.

Dirty Sanchez · 10-15-12, 07:24 PM

K-State is the worst passing team in the Big 12...traveling all the way to Morgantown to play a team that just got waxed by Texas Tech. Also State has Texas Tech and Oklahoma State right after West Virginia. Kansas State may need 7 or more once Geno Smith gets cranking

LT Profits · 10-15-12, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by CanuckG

do you expect Geno Smith to struggle again?

Maybe not struggle but he won't be as good as he looked the first five weeks. You saw what happened when WVA faced the best defense they faced all year last week, and now they are facing an even better defense.

LT Profits · 10-15-12, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez

K-State is the worst passing team in the Big 12...traveling all the way to Morgantown to play a team that just got waxed by Texas Tech. Also State has Texas Tech and Oklahoma State right after West Virginia. Kansas State may need 7 or more once Geno Smith gets cranking

You totally ignored the fact that Kansas State is the much better team. Wildcats might score on every possession.

CanuckG · 10-15-12, 07:30 PM

Being the much better team is meaningless. Sports is a business and parity runs rampant. Go ask Joey who watches ESPN and saw WVU get killed probably tell you well K. State won last week and WVU has no defense K. State is a no brainer. Fact is they're both overrated teams and this is a toss up. Better games out there to bet on.

Dirty Sanchez · 10-15-12, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

You totally ignored the fact that Kansas State is the much better team. Wildcats might score on every possession.

No..they can't throw the ball...West Virginia loads up the box and Klein will have to throw....advantage West Virginia

Louisvillekid1 · 10-15-12, 07:37 PM

Good responses here, I'm not saying pound ksu either...

I just thought ksu would be -2.5 in this spot... Curious to see how this game gets bet before kickoff

LT Profits · 10-15-12, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by CanuckG

Being the much better team is meaningless. Sports is a business and parity runs rampant. Go ask Joey who watches ESPN and saw WVU get killed probably tell you well K. State won last week and WVU has no defense K. State is a no brainer. Fact is they're both overrated teams and this is a toss up. Better games out there to bet on.

Kansas State is hardly overrated and there is something to be said about the better team getting points from a team that plays zero defense.

Louisvillekid1 · 10-15-12, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez

No..they can't throw the ball...West Virginia loads up the box and Klein will have to throw....advantage West Virginia

They can load up the box all they want, they are pathetic on defense...

Louisvillekid1 · 10-15-12, 07:39 PM

Kansas st overrated? They are legit top 5 team

LT Profits · 10-15-12, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez

No..they can't throw the ball

Yes they can. The only reason Kansas State doesn't have gaudy passing numbers is because they run the ball a very high percentage of the time.

But when Klein does throw, he is completing 67% of his passes and averaging 9 yards per attempt. If WVA put extra guys in the box, all it would take is some early completions to get them away from that. I don;t see how Mounties can stop them.

LT Profits · 10-15-12, 07:48 PM

If anything Kansas State is underrated because they still seem to have a lot of doubters.

The Giant · 10-15-12, 07:53 PM

Just play the over and go to bed.

LT Profits · 10-15-12, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by The Giant

Just play the over and go to bed.

It;s not that easy. Kansas State defense can make stops and their offense can run a lot of clock.

hougigo · 10-15-12, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by Brock Landers

WVU WILL win this game...no doubt about it

Oh come on now.... now KSU is going to win. Same guy who went all in and forced his husband and kids to eat Ramen noodles for 2 months

The Giant · 10-15-12, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

It;s not that easy. Kansas State defense can make stops and their offense can run a lot of clock.

Maybe if the game was in Manhattan, but I think West Virginia will be able to light them up at home. And conversely they can't stop anyone.

slim dog · 10-15-12, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

KSU is a national title contender, WVU is all hype...

People see WVU put up points and think they are a really good team, it makes no sense...

You can't continue to win the way they play against good teams.

Hell JJ could gameplan against them...

^^^This^^^^^
The Smith hype has been crazy. Look at the teams they have beat early. Those teams are weak defensively, with the top two being TT (loss), and Texas (and we saw what happened to them on Saturday).
Public perception is the exact opposite for these teams. People think WV is almost unbeatable and think KSU is overrated. I'm guessing the old man is going to put on a good coaching clinic on Saturday night.
KSU +3 and KSU money line for me!

CanuckG · 10-15-12, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by slim dog

^^^This^^^^^
The Smith hype has been crazy. Look at the teams they have beat early. Those teams are weak defensively, with the top two being TT (loss), and Texas (and we saw what happened to them on Saturday).
Public perception is the exact opposite for these teams. People think WV is almost unbeatable and think KSU is overrated. I'm guessing the old man is going to put on a good coaching clinic on Saturday night.
KSU pluss 3 and KSU money line for me!

You must of missed WVU getting their ass kicked

Urbanwildlife · 10-15-12, 10:14 PM

I am not playing the game, but if I was, I would be playing Kansas State. There head coach is exceptional.

slim dog · 10-15-12, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by CanuckG

You must of missed WVU getting their ass kicked

What I'm hearing is smith will not have two bad games in a row, KSU can't keep up, WV is at home, ect, ect, ect.
Look, your preaching to the choir, I've thought this WV team has been a fluke all year. I was betting that Texas would get them 2 weeks ago and I was wrong. I see them like a TT team a few years ago with Leach that could put points up, but couldn't stop anyone. They always had 3 to 4 losses a year in league, but just ran up the score against weaker teams.

convick · 10-15-12, 10:40 PM

KSU is not a national title contender.

Youre overrating them here my man. Neither was WVU when they were undefeated.

Everyone this weekend was all over WV (on the road) against Tech. Now people are overreacting to the beating they took and everyone is on KSU (on the road). I noticed many of the throws Geno made and to me it was clear that the wind affected his accuracy. Even his coach said the wind affected him (Smith of course denies this). Geno will not have a repeat of this weekend at home.

This is a good spot to take the Mountaineers.