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  • dj_destroyer
    SBR MVP
    • 07-28-10
    • 3856

    #1
    $20 FREE Bet
    Bet 1: $1050 to win 1000 on Broncos/Chargers U48 [-105] (SIA)
    Bet 2: $1000 to win 1070 on Broncos/Chargers O48 [+107] (Pinny)

    Free bet ends up being on the OVER 48. I know it's probably not worth it but these books have identical rules and pay so I think it's relatively risk-free.
  • ProfaneReality
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 04-14-09
    • 7607

    #2
    what a sweat that will be. enjoy.
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    • ZetaPsi808
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 09-18-08
      • 12119

      #3
      DJ... don't arb with SIA

      just bet their off numbers straight up for standard unit sizes and you will be guaranteed to profit long term. they limit you real fast. not worth it to arb for $20 or $40 of profit
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      • ZetaPsi808
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-18-08
        • 12119

        #4
        good luck
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        • vaas187
          SBR MVP
          • 03-01-12
          • 2280

          #5
          so you bet both sides to cover your losses?
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          • rfr3sh
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-07-09
            • 10229

            #6
            Do what zeta says
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            • ABEHONEST
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 06-27-09
              • 9470

              #7
              I used to do this and would run out of money before the weekend. Then lose good plays I cannot play, or get stuck with bad plays. Not worth it unless your are packing some nice funds?
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              • Deal With It
                SBR High Roller
                • 04-29-11
                • 166

                #8
                Originally posted by dj_destroyer
                Bet 1: $1050 to win 1000 on Broncos/Chargers U48 [-105] (SIA)
                Bet 2: $1000 to win 1070 on Broncos/Chargers O48 [+107] (Pinny)

                Free bet ends up being on the OVER 48. I know it's probably not worth it but these books have identical rules and pay so I think it's relatively risk-free.
                Final score 28-20?
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                • dj_destroyer
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-28-10
                  • 3856

                  #9
                  Good call Zeta...

                  How much did you make before getting limited?
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                  • ZetaPsi808
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 09-18-08
                    • 12119

                    #10
                    8K

                    but alot of it was off numbers that i arbed
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                    • Sam Odom
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-30-05
                      • 58063

                      #11
                      SIA wasnt labled the 'Candy Store' for nothing
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                      • dj_destroyer
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-28-10
                        • 3856

                        #12
                        I'm at 4300 right now... Gonna keep going until they limit me.
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                        • dj_destroyer
                          SBR MVP
                          • 07-28-10
                          • 3856

                          #13
                          Easy $20 lol
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                          • Beetlejuice
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 02-06-11
                            • 265

                            #14
                            What do you guys mean when you say that SIA, "limits you"?
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                            • shocka1212
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-06-12
                              • 16788

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Beetlejuice
                              What do you guys mean when you say that SIA, "limits you"?
                              Books cut you off when you get that mojo
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                              • Beetlejuice
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 02-06-11
                                • 265

                                #16
                                Originally posted by shocka1212
                                Books cut you off when you get that mojo
                                Like, cuts off your betting for good? I'm new to arbing, and doubled my money inside of a week here. The amounts are TINY so far. Went from 50 to 95 using ten dollar units. I'm thinking of it like a seed in a garden. Just wondering if I had anything to worry about long term with sportsbook.com?
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                                • dj_destroyer
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-28-10
                                  • 3856

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Beetlejuice
                                  Like, cuts off your betting for good? I'm new to arbing, and doubled my money inside of a week here. The amounts are TINY so far. Went from 50 to 95 using ten dollar units. I'm thinking of it like a seed in a garden. Just wondering if I had anything to worry about long term with sportsbook.com?
                                  Yes. The problem with sportsbook.com is getting paid. They're getting a bit better lately but all it takes is one big win and they'll likely return to their stiffing ways.
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                                  • shocka1212
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-06-12
                                    • 16788

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by dj_destroyer

                                    Yes. The problem with sportsbook.com is getting paid. They're getting a bit better lately but all it takes is one big win and they'll likely return to their stiffing ways.
                                    +1 agreed
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                                    • hels
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 04-12-09
                                      • 8767

                                      #19
                                      This is the problem with being a winner, books don't like it so they stop it. The whole controversy with Astros (poster) accidentally being overpaid by a book and cashing out and running was looked down upon by well over 50% of SBR.

                                      I made a post in that thread with everything books will do to you if you win too much and it basically leads to banning you. I use betfair (exchange site) and they will tax you up to 60% if you win too much. This is to discourage 'green' bettors who only lay odds either way so they always win. If users didn't lay odds then other users couldn't back odds.

                                      In big games (where there lots of action) that I will not have a pick I often green up for a guaranteed $5/$10/$20. It's nice knowing you will come out ahead when you really didn't do anything at all.

                                      I digress, great job finding those lines dj_destroyer. I've made a few threads this NFL season exploiting +EV lines on 2 or more sites. Your bet guaranteed slightly less than a 1% gain in BR which of course +EV is great no matter what. The best I posted was 3.4% with SI and Pinny (don't use either of those sites).

                                      Beetlejuice, what you are doing is the smartest way of betting possible. A couple tips:

                                      1)Try to use books that don't have any deposit/withdrawal fees. If they do have fees find the cheapest deposit/withdrawal methods and only use those.
                                      2)If you have sites that don't have fees, feel free to bet max e.g.,
                                      $100 to win $105 at site A
                                      $100 to win $105 at site B

                                      Site A wins - cash out either $5 or $105 (your choice depending on BR outside of books)
                                      Site B loses - deposit $100

                                      3) Have a separate bank account for winnings only. This will make it easier to cash out as you want to watch it grow.

                                      4) Have defined goals e.g.,
                                      -You have $100 in 10 different books
                                      -Make a goal that when your winnings only account accumulates $200 you will put $100 ($10 each) into the 10 books, take out $50 and celebrate and leave $50. You next goal might be $200 or $250.

                                      5) Don't become fixated on the same 10 books, use new books too, look for bonuses with new books.

                                      6) Talk to other SBR posters who use books that you use. Find out their policies on limiting players and how trustworthy these sites are for payouts.

                                      7) Watch line movements. Pinny is usually the first to move and others follow. Some follow within seconds, others minutes, others much much longer. E.g.,

                                      -NFL OU moves at Pinny from 50.5 to 48.5 30 minutes before kickoff.
                                      -Immediately pretend take U50.5 at all books possible
                                      -Watch how their lines move
                                      -Once you get a good feel/grasp for other books and how they react to Pinny you will be able to make very sharp bets and then middle by buying O48.5

                                      7) Find books that have tendencies. bodog almost always has a higher football OU line. Using the 50.5 dropping to 48.5 bodog is often slow to react and at times doesn't react much at all. Instead they'll just change the odds to O50.5 +105 and U50.5 -125. I feel their OU lines are always encouraging you to take the Over.

                                      8) If you're outside America look into exchange sites (matchbook/betfair/betdaq). If you're in America learn how the exchange process works and hope they eventually re-open to US bettors. There are goldmines to be made if you are patient and understand line movements e.g.,

                                      -Yesterday MNF lines were continuously EV without much ML movement. However, at betfair both teams at different times could be sold at -104 and/or bought at +104.
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                                      • Hankwins
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-17-10
                                        • 2232

                                        #20
                                        Thanks hel's! Good advice!
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                                        • Hankwins
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-17-10
                                          • 2232

                                          #21
                                          I use three books that have SBR banners, 4 other books. I plan to deposit at all 7 i don't have accounts with at some point but only when I can afford take advantage of the max intial deposit bonus.

                                          I think it's lame to jump on a bunch of new books for bonuses if you only wanna deposit a couple hundred.
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                                          • Beetlejuice
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 02-06-11
                                            • 265

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by hels
                                            This is the problem with being a winner, books don't like it so they stop it. The whole controversy with Astros (poster) accidentally being overpaid by a book and cashing out and running was looked down upon by well over 50% of SBR.

                                            I made a post in that thread with everything books will do to you if you win too much and it basically leads to banning you. I use betfair (exchange site) and they will tax you up to 60% if you win too much. This is to discourage 'green' bettors who only lay odds either way so they always win. If users didn't lay odds then other users couldn't back odds.

                                            In big games (where there lots of action) that I will not have a pick I often green up for a guaranteed $5/$10/$20. It's nice knowing you will come out ahead when you really didn't do anything at all.

                                            I digress, great job finding those lines dj_destroyer. I've made a few threads this NFL season exploiting +EV lines on 2 or more sites. Your bet guaranteed slightly less than a 1% gain in BR which of course +EV is great no matter what. The best I posted was 3.4% with SI and Pinny (don't use either of those sites).

                                            Beetlejuice, what you are doing is the smartest way of betting possible. A couple tips:

                                            1)Try to use books that don't have any deposit/withdrawal fees. If they do have fees find the cheapest deposit/withdrawal methods and only use those.
                                            2)If you have sites that don't have fees, feel free to bet max e.g.,
                                            $100 to win $105 at site A
                                            $100 to win $105 at site B

                                            Site A wins - cash out either $5 or $105 (your choice depending on BR outside of books)
                                            Site B loses - deposit $100

                                            3) Have a separate bank account for winnings only. This will make it easier to cash out as you want to watch it grow.

                                            4) Have defined goals e.g.,
                                            -You have $100 in 10 different books
                                            -Make a goal that when your winnings only account accumulates $200 you will put $100 ($10 each) into the 10 books, take out $50 and celebrate and leave $50. You next goal might be $200 or $250.

                                            5) Don't become fixated on the same 10 books, use new books too, look for bonuses with new books.

                                            6) Talk to other SBR posters who use books that you use. Find out their policies on limiting players and how trustworthy these sites are for payouts.

                                            7) Watch line movements. Pinny is usually the first to move and others follow. Some follow within seconds, others minutes, others much much longer. E.g.,

                                            -NFL OU moves at Pinny from 50.5 to 48.5 30 minutes before kickoff.
                                            -Immediately pretend take U50.5 at all books possible
                                            -Watch how their lines move
                                            -Once you get a good feel/grasp for other books and how they react to Pinny you will be able to make very sharp bets and then middle by buying O48.5

                                            7) Find books that have tendencies. bodog almost always has a higher football OU line. Using the 50.5 dropping to 48.5 bodog is often slow to react and at times doesn't react much at all. Instead they'll just change the odds to O50.5 +105 and U50.5 -125. I feel their OU lines are always encouraging you to take the Over.

                                            8) If you're outside America look into exchange sites (matchbook/betfair/betdaq). If you're in America learn how the exchange process works and hope they eventually re-open to US bettors. There are goldmines to be made if you are patient and understand line movements e.g.,

                                            -Yesterday MNF lines were continuously EV without much ML movement. However, at betfair both teams at different times could be sold at -104 and/or bought at +104.
                                            All good stuff man. I'm going to open a 5dimes account and get rolling over there as well sometime soon. Plant a seed of min deposit and watch it grow.

                                            Actually, it's funny, because I only have one book account, I don't do the whole cross-book arbs. I usually just bet on the dog in what's going to be a close game, and when the live betting comes up, I bet the other team. This is always on the same site.

                                            I just worry that if I amass anything over 1000 at either site, I'll end up having trouble getting to it.
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