(jon from bet islands) free publicity do the right thing

[Keith Richard]

Jim ...what's this story about you being cheated at Betcascade? Have you told this story before? I'd really like to hear about it.

[wtt0315]

You know I once dated a Ethiopian girl with no clitoris. It was was the most work I had to ever put into sex.
I don't reccomend having yours cut out.
True story

Sorry , it's very easy for you to say I have no clue about betting, this industry, or anything. Simply because I have a clitoris and there hasn't really been another female employee anywhere who has demonstrated much of a knowledge of gambling. I get it and almost don't blame you for feeling that way despite my being here for 3+ yrs now. I knew it when I agreed to take this job and I still accept it now. Chicks on gambling forums suck for the most part. Yep, true. But I will guarantee that I have turned over more cash in books, have been betting longer, have dealt with more situations in too many countries to count both online and local than the majority of people who post on here. And I bleed every month. Anyone who has talked to me or I've been lucky enough to meet from the forum would say the same thing. Astonishing, no?

I have NEVER nor will I EVER blow smoke up a book's ass because they happen to have a banner here. I was praising 365 a full year and a half before you'd ever see them associated with SBR. I've also said many times that I won't comment on the practices of a book I haven't or can't play with which I never have. I came in here and responded to a comment as to why SBR acted as they did. I didn't say BI was a great book to play with as I have no clue.

It's up to you to believe it or not. Either way life will go on for everyone. But I truly hope those few who are questioning SBR's judgement in this particular instance also won't turn around and ask for help in the future with a sportsbook related issue. Because who would want help from a place like this? Amusingly it'll happen and SBR will treat those posters fairly and fight for the proper outcome to be rendered if need be. So hypocritical and I wonder why they wouldn't go elsewhere for help. Oh wait, we know why they won't.

You think you know who you're dealing with but we actually KNOW who we're dealing with as stuff comes through privately. And yet SBR still helps these posters out - including people like you - although if I get my way next year I'm going to drug John and make him swear not to waste his time any more on those who only come here to bash SBR once in awhile and then cry privately for help. Go elsewhere and good luck.

[Scorpion]

jon please dont fuk jimmy, hes married

[shari91]

way to throw Blondie under the bus!

Firstly there are many more females who work here moderating this little forum other than shari91 and blondie. But nah, it has nothing to do with throwing anyone under the bus. Blondie would be the first to admit she doesn't gamble regularly and there's nothing wrong with that. Doesn't mean an occasional gambler can't moderate a gambling forum. It's not a competition of who gambles more or who knows more about the industry.

But when someone questions what I do know simply because of the body parts I have - especially when I've always been brutally frank about every step of my little gambling foray since I was in single digit age - I find it offensive. Dealing with thieves like McIrish who believe they deserve eternal praise for working at the rx or for anyone to insinuate or imply I don't gamble or at least have a clue, then you can just piss off. Or scammers who try to steal something like SBR Points for what??? Yet you're going to judge my gambling knowledge? I feel no shame in publicly asking for help when I need it. Which resulted in my sharing TomG's spreadsheet today that durito was lovely enough to pass on to me. Neither of them put a "no bitches allowed" lock on Excel. You often hear that people resort to attempted insults like this when a person realises their argument is shithouse. And out of 50k woman slams against me since I started to work here I've just ignored them. Today though, I find it offensive. Not only to me but to those friends who have daughters.

[minet123]

Drama Sells
made up drama sells even better

[Chi_archie]

I'm not reading all that.


Make no mistake Blondie and InActionGirl know alot about gambling.

they also don't get riled up/wound up very easy


that is why they are GREAT mods

[Scorpion]

jon will do the right thing jimmy if you let him spend one night(FREE OF CHARGE) with your lovely wife

[Chi_archie]

Jeem, how is the knee?

do you want me to refer you to my new jewish doctor?

[shari91]

I'm not reading all that.


Make no mistake Blondie and InActionGirl know alot about gambling.

they also don't get riled up/wound up very easy


that is why they are GREAT mods

Hard to judge how anyone feels or what they know when they never bother to post. So I assume you're using that magical telepathic power of yours again.

But yeah! Great analogy

Regardless, I have a 1pm appt to get a Shellac on my nails so I can't keep going much longer. You can't troll me as I know you too well so you may as well treat Big Al to one too. Lasts at least 2 weeks. No real benefit for you I suppose but it's always nice to have purdy nails.

[Scorpion]

hey jon, if you do the right thing i will reload my account, $50 bucks by W.U. if you cover the fees, i get paid next Friday, i work at McDonalds

[Rollins08]

Jon's a good guy who runs a great book. Why would you try and screw the book that your using over 1500? It just doesn't make sense at all, great you did the wrong thing - now try finding another book that pays. Not so easy in this day and age.

[bobbywaves]

You are officially the biggest douche bag in the history of this forum. Are you that deprived of attention at home?

I believe BTJ is the same douche bag that receives an allowance from his wife.

[bobbywaves]

Why do you always use capital letters, makes it annoying to read your posts. As soon as I see all caps, I skip it.

Because he's a lazy & inconsiderate douche bag, why else?

[Monitor-Tan]

Soo basically what I'm reading is.. It's ok to screw the book when the book has done nothing bad to you, but it's still ok because you get screwed from OTHER books before...

Yeah why does that not add up..

Anyone who needs to take that money, it's already telling me you're betting with money you can't afford to lose, or you wouldn't be all giggly and jumpy over less then a couple of grand..

Anyone that's successful or bets and loses with money they can afford to lose, would send it back.

[wantitall4moi]

Problem with banning him is he paid something to be a MEMBER here. So what SBR says is that 'pro' status means nothing if you doing something questionable. It doesnt mean shit anyway but this shows the site administrators dont think so either. When you 'pay' to be a member that should come with some safety. The ONLY reason he got banned was because Bet Islands pays to advertise here. Not because he stole from a book.

If some guy came here and made out the same exact thing and it was involving a book that doesnt have a relationship with this place it wouldnt be an issue at all. So dont try and play that bullshit card.

The more this drags out and the more people get all high and mighty about it the more it looks like the guy was correct in keeping the money. Since everyone only cares about their own personal interests why cant he?

I dont even remember the last time ANY book did the 'right' thing when they did something questionable. Some have because they didnt want the negative pub, but most dont give a shit.

Lumping BI into that group isnt really 'fair' but thats how it goes.

Ultimately 1500 bucks shouldnt be enough to worry about and should be something that is not even close to built into the 'insurance' policy of the book. When I see books losing their minds over such small amounts it always raises a red flag. No one likes getting screwed but it happens. Deal with it.

But to be fair BI has basically said 3 or 4 comments on the whole thing, but they are taking it too personally even from what I have read in those few words. Its a business guys in business get screwed all the time. Problem is they are used to having the control and being the ones doing the screwing so they cant handle the fact that the guy got over on them. So it IS personal. Which is a bad attitude to have. Having SBR play their tough guy just makes SBR look like a bitch too. Because what can SBR do besides ban the guy? Not a frigging thing, despite this place touting itself as some watchdog and layer advocate site, they cant do shit if a book screws someone or do shit if a layer gets over on the book, beyond whatever little downgrade or banishment on this site itself.

[thechaoz]

I absolutely love bi... Easy deposits, even easier payouts.... Smoothest book I've ever dealt with...

[sando]

Man this thread is full of essays. Serious shit. Fascinating...

[BEANTOWNJIM]

NOBODY EXPLAINS THINGS LIKE WANTITALL4MOI THIS GUY TELLS IT LIKE IT IS AND ALWAYS HAS HE IS AN OLDTIMER THAT REALLY KNOWS THE INS AND OUTS OF THE OFFSHORE SPORTSBOOK BUSINESS.

ASTROS NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN BANNED OVER THIS AND JON FROM BET ISLANDS SHOULD HAVE JUST COME IN HERE AND LAUGHED IT OFF AND SAID SEE BOYS HERE AT BET ISLANDS WE OVERPAY OUR PLAYERS

I COULD SENSE JON WAS REALLY MAD AT THE BEGINNING BUT I THINK NOW HE IS STARTING TO REALIZE WHAT HE WOULD DO IF HE WAS IN THE SAME POSITION.

IF WE HAD 10 PEOPLE OUT OF 1000 THAT WOULD GO OUT WITH 1500 DOLLARS CASH AND SEND IT BACK TO SOME GUY IN COSTA RICA WHO IS RUNNING A LEGAL/ILLEGAL BUSINESS THATS WORTH MILLIONS.YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE OUT OF YOUR MIND TO TAKE 1500 DOLLARS CASH AND SHIP IT OFF TO COSTA RICA

ASTROS GOT LUCKY NOW ITS UP TO JON TO MAKE THIS RIGHT

[Rollins08]

I think your off on this Jim. I think most good customers would send it back. If you use a book all the time why would you steal $1500? More than 10 out of 1000 have some form of integrity.

[Scorpion]

beantownjim and his young girlfriend

Beano-Sindy.jpg

[Okiejoe]

Do you guys really get butt hurt over some poster on a penetrating forum? Grow up he stole money and bragged about it. End of story this is mute point. MUTE POINT. So Mute it.

[Microphone]

I really wish you were this jovial BTJ when you had the Cascade incident that we've heard about over, and over and over.......

[mtneer1212]

That's bullshit.

Several posters have been banned even during my short 2yr stint here for the exact same crap... many of them not even dealing with SBR books.

You want to fukk a US-facing book and then brag about it? Cool. You want to do it on THIS forum - one of however many other forums you guys are free to go post on - then no, it's not acceptable. Whether you **********, start a thread bragging about an overpayment and being so disgusting as to post the cash, attempting to extort books (which we sadly get often), saying that you have a plan to screw a book? Then no, SBR isn't the place for you until you grow up/get your issues sorted with the sportsbook in question.

What baffles me is that the people saying they'd keep the money are mainly US posters. The same posters this forum is trying to protect in so many aspects. Either way, I personally don't give a rat's if you want to jack a book. But to question the motivation of how or why posters are told or made to stfu in situations like this - again dealing with US FACING BOOKS - is astonishing.

Shari, my guess is that Americans have so many hoops to jump through to get paid, there is a sense of entitlement. Jon is one of the most fair people I've ever dealt with. His guy made a mistake, and there is no integrity by the poster to make it right - but if Jon wronged him, he'd be the first on here screaming for help. I hate assholes like Astros.

[Scorpion]

shari, what I find interesting is that people with Irish/French/Italian descent are more prone to this than any other

[thechaoz]

Do you guys really get butt hurt over some poster on a penetrating forum? Grow up he stole money and bragged about it. End of story this is mute point. MUTE POINT. So Mute it.

I think you mean moot, but I digress...

[Jaug]

jim, if a book stiffed you for $1500, would you send them another deposit?

Not the same thing. You are talking about david and goliath here.

If a shopping mall lets you off without paying for something by mistake (worth $100) it doesn't matter to them. On the other hand $100 is a lot of money for some people.