I want LT Profits banned.

[BeatTheJerk]

I don't want LT banned either ................ I mean let me put it to you like this. LT is a standup guy who is respectful to our fellow posters and has a great mind for this industry which shows with his results in his picks that are displayed on here he's definately a solid capper, but like I said before in previous posts finding out he is a real tout is like finding out your best friend is "GAY" which is ignorant on my part thinking he had a free service that he provided to his website veiwers because I didn't take the time to actually look at his site, but anyways that sums up my two sense on this thread

[remmy358]

LT profits is basically a legal scam that takes advantage of people who are really barreled in and desperate for wins. doesn't mean he should be banned. there are other useless touts like him, they will never go away. just ignore his posts and what not and move on.

[LT Profits]

I was pissed when I found out LT is an old white guy, instead of a young black one.
But, I don't see no reason to come down so hard on him. He's at least somewhat knowledgeable, and tries to be helpful.

I'm guessing he's not exactly like all the touts you've been meeting Nicky....and "at least he's not a tard" apparently:

Why would that upset you? People is people.

[jjgold]

LT never hustled picks here

All I see are plays he gives us

[LT Profits]

LT profits is basically a legal scam that takes advantage of people who are really barreled in and desperate for wins. doesn't mean he should be banned. there are other useless touts like him, they will never go away. just ignore his posts and what not and move on.

Show me one shred of evidience where I have ever scammed anyone?

Don't lump me in with the scumbags in the industry that give out both sides of the same game and fabricate their records. I am proud of the fact that I have have had more winning years then losing ones with absolutely no fudging involved, and if I could help someone that does not have the time or desire to cap on their own make money, how does that make me any different then an investment advisor?

[accuscoresucks]

LT doesnt solicit anybody here. As long as he doesnt ever say he didnt do well in a certain contest because he doesnt use his top plays, I dont have a problem with him. Because we know thats a line of bullshit. But LT is cool and gives alot to this site.

PM ME YOU CELL # BRO I LOST IT

looked last night couldnt find it

[JBC77]

If a guy wants to have an internet business where he sells picks, whats wrong with that? If people are willing to pay, well then so be it.

Nicky, actually sounds like your hating on the guy a little bit.

You would bust a guys balls for opening up a whorehouse in Nevada? Yeah, the product is a little shady, but who gives a f!@# if your not paying for it.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out if you pay someone for picks and they lose, they probably aren't going to give you another dime....

[bigboydan]

If a guy wants to have an internet business where he sells picks, whats wrong with that?

Not a thing at all IMO sir.

[HedgeHog]

Lost all respect for Nicky with this thread (not that I had all that much). LT deserves whatever he collects. He makes no outrageous claims and does no spamming. No one is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to buy his picks.

[Bullajami]

Put me in the LT Profits camp. He's a solid member. Contributes more of value to SBR (for free) than 98% of the other members in this forum.

[ldrapeau]

Keep LT aboard

This guy is very professional, is extremely regular (has not missed a beat very often - even if he loses he will still post) and take's his work seriously. He is a good contributor and does not appear to solicit anyone as far as I'm concerned.

[St.Aquinas]

Great thread!

I know a few Bookies, and asked one about touts.

He told me this, "I'm not afraid of touts for the simple reason they cant win with their own money"

Save your money boys, let LTP stay. No reason to knock Nicky for sharing his views on the subject. Teasers are a very square bet, lol.

BMW have you seen her ?

[Chi_archie]

wait.... LT is old??

[Bread]

Nicky should really stick to his irrelevant long-winded threads instead of trying to go after a respected SBR'r.

Pitiful.

[LT Profits]

wait.... LT is old??

Is 48 old?

[Chi_archie]

nope.... experience is good...

I pictured you as 28-34ish...

[reno cool]

Why would that upset you? People is people.

I never met a young (under40) black handicapper with your style, so I found the notion interesting.

But mostly I'm joking.

[eidolon]

I'm just wondering how you make profit? When in the last 5 years you are down 373 units?

Results for: Over All:
Capper LT Profits

W-L-P 3122-3213-148
Playing All

W/L %: 49.28 %
Bet Type All

Total: -373.35
Length Of Time 1825 days

Type: units

[capitalist pig]

I didnt see any of you guys screaming to ban LT while he is grading and running all the free contests alot of you play in. Who cares what he does, Ive seen his website for years, and in the 2 years Ive been here Ive never heard of anyone saying LT solicited them to buy picks.

The guy and his wife have adopted 3 kids, and if that doesnt say something positive about someones character nothing does.I doubt anyone here can go as far as to say they have done something of that magnitude to help people. JMO.

later

[Robyn]

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=45971410

Hey Nicky, is this real? Nicky, do bears really play hockey? How do they get those ice skates on the bear paws, Nicky?

Nicky, do you think that the refs are scared that the bears will eat them if they make a bad call, Nicky? OH and hey Nicky, what if the bear thinks the ice means that it is time to hibernate and then lays down on the ice to take a nap?

Nicky I thank you in advance for your response, Nicky.

[eidolon]

I didnt see any of you guys screaming to ban LT while he is grading and running all the free contests alot of you play in. Who cares what he does, Ive seen his website for years, and in the 2 years Ive been here Ive never heard of anyone saying LT solicited them to buy picks.

The guy and his wife have adopted 3 kids, and if that doesnt say something positive about someones character nothing does.I doubt anyone here can go as far as to say they have done something of that magnitude to help people. JMO.

later

I never asked for him to be banned; He is actually one of the guys I enjoy on here, because he puts in his 2 cents, and doesn't act like a 10 year old.

[LT Profits]

I'm just wondering how you make profit? When in the last 5 years you are down 373 units?

Results for: Over All:
Capper LT Profits

W-L-P 3122-3213-148
Playing All

W/L %: 49.28 %
Bet Type All

Total: -373.35
Length Of Time 1825 days

Type: units

I explained in another bashfest thread (LOL) that the tool you are using is seriously flawed and nobody seems eager to fix it. It goups other handicappers' picks with mine when capper combo packages are sold and credits the wins and losses to all the cappers in the package. So if I go 3-0 and am sold in a combo package with someone that goes 0-3, the tool gives both of us 3-3.

[bigboydan]

Should I just ban Mr.Nicky right now LT?

[LT Profits]

Should I just ban Mr.Nicky right now LT?

Either that or set up an LT vs. Nicky handicapping challenge.

[bigboydan]

Either that or set up an LT vs. Nicky handicapping challenge.

I opted for the second choice LT. Although, I feel Mr.Nicky is yellow and won't accept your challenge.

[Kingctb27]

Nicky, I've never ever seen you give out a pick. Stfu

[jjgold]

LT is a solid guy, great asset to forum.

[Kingctb27]

LT is a solid guy, great asset to forum.

x2

[SportNut]

I vote him around also, paying for picks is the publics' business. I made good dough off his free picks sometimes.

[McBa1n]

Lost all respect for Nicky with this thread (not that I had all that much). LT deserves whatever he collects. He makes no outrageous claims and does no spamming. No one is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to buy his picks.

I agree 100%. With all due respect - I'd rather see Nicky banned for being a worthless spammer. I've not seen a worthwhile handicapping post out of him, yet. He's like JJ to me - an entity to spam the boards with worthless jibber jabber.

I come to these boards to read guys like LT - he's a handicapper, not a spamming tosser, ala JJ. I like guys that actually give you a caviate to think about before you bet. A CAPPER caviat, not a worthless 'pick' - which any old dipstick can get reading their newspaper... Or pay for a service!

In the end, LT is straight up and what these boards are about. If he's makin coin on the side and it makes you angry - then you're probably a loser for not thinking of it first.

[englishmike]

He's like JJ to me - an entity to spam the boards with worthless jibber jabber.

That's because they are probably one and the same, it's in JJ's contract to be at least 20 different people to make it look busy, it's what they pay him for.

[McBa1n]

That's because they are probably one and the same, it's in JJ's contract to be at least 20 different people to make it look busy, it's what they pay him for.

haha - well said. As always, well played, sir.

[eidolon]

I explained in another bashfest thread (LOL) that the tool you are using is seriously flawed and nobody seems eager to fix it. It goups other handicappers' picks with mine when capper combo packages are sold and credits the wins and losses to all the cappers in the package. So if I go 3-0 and am sold in a combo package with someone that goes 0-3, the tool gives both of us 3-3.

OK...I was just really surprised to see those stats, because I remember, I think it was last year, it seemed like you were doing really good last year in the competitions (Noticed you and I think one other, because we kept passing each other up in the top rankings).

[Cheme82]

I agree that so-called handicappers that manipulate their totals, hype their wins and ignore their losses just so they can get people's money are scum. But I also know there are some true handicappers that provide you with consistent winners over the long haul and that keep accurate records of their plays. People that spend long hours every day capping games and as a result of their skills and hard work are able to provide positive results.

I spend a lot of time capping games, but I am also married, have 2 kids, 2 jobs, and are working on the last classesto finish my Math degree so the time I have to cap is obviously limited. But even if I was a full-time handicapper and all I did was study games, I wouldn't be able to cap all available games in all sports accurately. Also most people are better at some sports than others (I am starting to cap NBA, and have only watched football for 3 years, and no I'm not weird, I'm just foreign and haven't been in the US that long).

So let's say I have a friend that is really good at NBA, I mean the guy hits in the high 50's consistently, and Football is over but I want to keep earning money with the bankroll I built with football. Now I can either cap the games myself but I know I usually hit between 48 and 52% and chances are I'll lose some money. Or I can ask him to give me his plays because I know much more likely to make some cash throughout the season, and of course he is my friend so I'll shoot him some cash for being a good friend and sharing; it's the right thing to do. Or even if I'm also a good NBA capper and hit in the high 50's like my friend, but I just got a promotion and don't have that much free time. Maybe I want to spend more time with the wife and kids, whatever the reason. I'll ride his plays not because I can't make quality picks myself, but because I don't have the time to put into them and he does. Either way, I'll shoot him some cash as a thank you.

The key to all this is how much you pay for picks and how much you bet. If your max wager is 300 bucks then it makes no sense to pay 50 bucks for a game, even if your capper hits 60%, and asuming no vig. He would win 6 for every 10 plays you buy. Which at 300 a play will make you 600 in 10 plays, but you spent 500 on the plays so that leaves you with 100 profit after risking 3000 in wagers, and that is assuming you can find at least +100 on all your bets, and that he hits 60%.

If someone can give me 60% winners on the NBA with at least 500 games played in the season I will give them $10,000 and not even think about it, and they wouldn't be stealing from me, they would be allowing me to make money. Money I couldn't make on my own because I can't cap NBA at 60%. I would rather pay for picks and turn a profit than lose on my own any day of the week.

That being said, I joined this site a little over 2 months ago and have posted mostly NFL and CFB where I have done fairly good. Football is coming to an end and I am trying to learn to cap NBA, maybe if you are not good at football but are good at any other sport we can partner up and make money together, I'll help you with football, you help me with baseball, hockey, NBA, whatever. The point of this forum is to help each other out, not to hate on people. I hit about 60% on football (both college and pro), and my grading system for plays allows me to make more money that if i just bet a fixed amount on all games, in other words, the games I feel strongly about usually hit around 70%. I do very well on my own only betting football. If we can form a group with individuals that have similar success in NBA, MLB, College Basketball, College Baseball, Hockey, Soccer, etc. I can only imagine me quitting my 2 jobs and staying home watching games and making money at the same time. All year long rather than only making money for about 5 months of the year.

So instead of wasting our time, if any of you guys are interested, shoot me a line and we'll see what happens. Remember that I am a serious poster, I keep my record accurate and will never change or alter it to reflect more wins, I am looking for people that are honest and have skills, i prefer people that grade their plays and keep an updated record, but if you know (not think, or hope) that you can hit in the high 50's I really want to tlak to you.

YTD
NFL
21-10-1 66.95
TEASERS
0-3 -33
CFB
36-25 89.05
TEASERS
1-3 -22.5
NBA
3-3 -3

[tacomax]

Either that or set up an LT vs. Nicky handicapping challenge.

This sounds interesting - I think you should try and set something up. Let me know if you need any help drawing up the rules.