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  • VegasDave
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-03-07
    • 8056

    #1
    Before You Bet TCU...
    This isn't a formal write-up or anything, just an observation.

    Utah is one of those teams that gets amped up out of their minds for big games. Now I know what you are going to say - who doesn't?

    Well that may be true, but there are certain teams that get up higher than others for big games, and in my opinion, Utah is one of them. They play with a lot of pride and they love being the underdog.

    Look back to 2007...

    Week 3, they were already 0 - 2 coming off of losses to Oregon State and Air Force, and they hosted (ranked if my memory serves me correctly) UCLA. Utah was a 15 point underdog. They won the game 44 - 6.

    Week 6 they played Louisville, in Louisville. They were 15 point underdogs. They won that game outright too, 44 - 35

    Week 8 they were an 3.5 point underdog again @TCU, and you guessed it, they won outright 27 - 20.

    Last week of the season they did lose to BYU as a 4.5 point underdog by a final score of 17 - 10, but the BYU TD was a last minute score and the game was very close.

    They beat Navy in their bowl game.

    This year, they've only been an underdog once, and that was @Michigan. As I and a few others around here predicted they would, Utah won outright.

    What does all this mean? Maybe nothing. Just wanted to point this out before you dumped your entire bankroll on TCU; Utah plays its finest football when the odds are against them.
  • CaneDawg
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-25-08
    • 6256

    #2
    I agree.

    Utah wins.

    Thursday night home dog special.

    LOL
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    • themajormt
      SBR MVP
      • 07-30-08
      • 3964

      #3
      Like the write up a lot Dave... This is one of those games where I really don't understand the line moving in TCU's favor on the road vs a team like Utah. TCU has had the better QB as of late and definitely has the better defense but a prime time game on the road and a favorite? I dont know which way I am going but definitely leaning towards the home team.

      Although, this point in the season is where they all put it out on the field and don't hold anything back because of the bowl implications. So the better team should win this, just a question of who exactly that is right now?
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      • compaqDikk
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-08-05
        • 5699

        #4
        will take disciples of Christ players over mormons any day of the week

        killerfrogs.com prevail and prevail big
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        • hoopster42
          Restricted User
          • 02-12-08
          • 6099

          #5
          the line opened 1, went to 2.5, now back down to 1.5

          public money and the sharps on both sides

          tcu is the better overall team that matches up well with utah
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          • fiveteamer
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 04-14-08
            • 10805

            #6
            Line was at 3 for a bit.
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            • hoopster42
              Restricted User
              • 02-12-08
              • 6099

              #7
              Originally posted by fiveteamer
              Line was at 3 for a bit.
              i dont think it was widely at 3, but i could be wrong

              i have been watching the line like a hawk since sunday night
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              • HAPPY BOY
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 08-10-05
                • 7109

                #8
                like the Utes at home here. utah +1.5 is my bet. Gl
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                • CaneDawg
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-25-08
                  • 6256

                  #9
                  Originally posted by HAPPY BOY
                  like the Utes at home here. utah +1.5 is my bet. Gl
                  lets cash this biatch

                  everyones on tcu

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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #10
                    TCU wins easy here, they got better athletes at most positions and play a better schedule.
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                    • thesnowman
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 10-24-08
                      • 60

                      #11
                      we all know both offenses can put up the points in this game, i think the factor lies in defense, utah gives up on average of 21.5 points a game at home while tcu is giving up 13.2 on the road( in their 4 road wins tcu def has given up an average of 7.8 points a game) At home utah does rush really well averaging over 200 yards a game, but remember this is the same tcu def that against #2(at the time) oklahoma (at oklahoma) kept them to around 37 yards rushing total and on average on the road tcu gives up 38.4 rushing yards and a 1.1 yards per carry . i think utah will need to be successful in rushing the ball to win or keep this close, as tcu has 21 sacks on the road and their defense has 7 ints and 5 fumbles recovered.

                      TheSnowMan's pick= tcu -1.5
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                      • awhitejackson
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-15-07
                        • 2265

                        #12
                        Like the commentary Dave...but having watched Utah luckily escape Ore St. at home and then sneak out with a win last week @ NMex, I dont see how they hang with this TCU team..... The D on this team is absolutely legit....QB comparisons strongly favor TCU.....Im going big on the Horney Frogs......GL
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                        • ryanXL977
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-24-08
                          • 20615

                          #13
                          what does last week have to do with this week? everyone said ut cant hang with ou, everyone said bama cant hang with uga, everyone said tt cant hang with ut
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                          • awhitejackson
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-15-07
                            • 2265

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ryanXL977
                            what does last week have to do with this week? everyone said ut cant hang with ou, everyone said bama cant hang with uga, everyone said tt cant hang with ut
                            Im not worried about just last week,,,,Im taking the last 8 weeks as a sign that TCU rolls.....
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                            • ryanXL977
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 02-24-08
                              • 20615

                              #15
                              who they played on the road all year must mean something? they havent beaten a decent team on the road all yr
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                              • awhitejackson
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-15-07
                                • 2265

                                #16
                                Originally posted by ryanXL977
                                who they played on the road all year must mean something? they havent beaten a decent team on the road all yr
                                I definately agree with you bud and hope you are not against me as I highly respect your opinion....Im just lovin me some TCU tonite...Their D is smothering
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                                • ryanXL977
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 02-24-08
                                  • 20615

                                  #17
                                  i dont know enough here other than to say utah is at home, and they seem pretty close to me. gl either way.
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                                  • Nepaa
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 10-12-08
                                    • 119

                                    #18
                                    I believe TCU wins this easy
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                                    • masr
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-20-07
                                      • 4773

                                      #19
                                      On the UTES +pts here
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                                      • MartinBlank
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 07-20-08
                                        • 8382

                                        #20
                                        TCU looking pretty jacked so far, up early 10-0.
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                                        • VegasDave
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-03-07
                                          • 8056

                                          #21
                                          Hope I saved a few of you a couple bucks. Congrats Utes backers!
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                                          • Dbldown11
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-17-06
                                            • 3605

                                            #22
                                            I'm really hoping that no Utah backers think they were on the right side in this game....You cashed and I congratulate you for that....However you have to thank god you didnt lose because they had no business covering this line or winning the game....TCU handed it to them

                                            I had the same thing happen to me when the Colts cashed for me @ Houston this year...I was DEFFINATELY on the wrong side but got lucky as shit
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                                            • VegasDave
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-03-07
                                              • 8056

                                              #23
                                              Don't see how you can compare this to the Colts game Dbldown... TCU let Utah stay close the entire game, and the Utes defense kept them in it the entire game. Then the Utes win it late. I can understand your frustrations having the game taken from you like that, but it really wasn't a "you were on the wrong side" deal. It was the defensive struggle everyone thought it would be and Utah came out on top.
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                                              • ryanXL977
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 02-24-08
                                                • 20615

                                                #24
                                                home teams pull close games out
                                                tcu never had control of this game, nor did utah
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                                                • saddestbison
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 09-29-08
                                                  • 127

                                                  #25
                                                  I know I was on the wrong side with utah, but I'll take it

                                                  seems I've had enough of these go the other way that I'll take what I can get
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    Good call Utah backers, went to wire
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                                                    • Richkas
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 02-03-08
                                                      • 19396

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                      Good call Utah backers, went to wire

                                                      I think vegas dave had 6 dimes on Utah from what I heard. Nice hit
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                                                      • pico
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 04-05-07
                                                        • 27321

                                                        #28
                                                        yeah. i thought tcu had the game covered, but i give both defense credit for keeping it close.

                                                        feeling good teased tcu to +4.5. this is one of those games where the matchups are pretty good, it is hard to make the call.
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                                                        • carrenzo
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 10-09-08
                                                          • 193

                                                          #29
                                                          What a sham

                                                          TCU WTF! I don't know what to say about the loss but good game.

                                                          I am looking for going 50% for this weeks games. So lets pick a winner tonight. Nevada and Fresno?

                                                          Starting another thread early. Don't have much time to play today.

                                                          Good job VD
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                                                          • fiveteamer
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 04-14-08
                                                            • 10805

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by hoopster42
                                                            i dont think it was widely at 3, but i could be wrong

                                                            i have been watching the line like a hawk since sunday night
                                                            pretty sure I saw the line at +3 for a bit.
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