New Bettor's Consensus product from SBR- Beta Testers?

RudyRuetigger · 09-29-12, 04:36 PM

why do best bets from btp matter?

that is an unreal small sample size

Vegas39 · 09-29-12, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

why do best bets from btp matter?

that is an unreal small sample size

I agree I'd do away with that column all together

CanuckG · 09-29-12, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

why do best bets from btp matter?

that is an unreal small sample size

borednaz · 09-29-12, 06:21 PM

My first thoughts are simple suggestions. I'd like to see a way to compare each event say NFL Seattle Vs ST Louis across books without having to switch in settings between the books. It's a pain to compare while trying to remember the pricing for the last book, even worst is you have multiple books to check lines on.

I know this is beta & features are still being planned. But this will help us "Price Shoppers" do our comparisons quicker & act in better speed.

no1here · 09-29-12, 06:42 PM

i concentrate on concensuses and they do not work,

Pete0 · 09-29-12, 07:16 PM

I"ve figured it out after a while

. Apparently changing the book for Opener/closer changes all the field.

But, I dont understand how is SBR ( or anyone for that matter ) getting the Info on MONEY on both sides AND the NUMBER of limit bets.
I assumed that no book ever shares that info.

Also, are there only a handful of limit bets on any given NFL game from bookmaker and Pinnacle ?

gauchojake · 09-30-12, 02:48 AM

Looks really good upon first glance. Opening lines would be nice. I will play around more in the am on a pc.

The Giant · 09-30-12, 02:57 AM

Did I miss my chance to take a look?

Jaug · 09-30-12, 03:18 AM

I would like to participate if possible.

RudyRuetigger · 09-30-12, 08:25 AM

Other thoughts:

Probably need an opening line tab on here
If you cick Time/TV, it just rearranges the 1pm games
Need to know which book (thought itd be bookmaker, looks like 5dimes) this current line is from and is it possible to change

Pete0 · 09-30-12, 08:56 AM

Does not not seem to work anymore for me today.

After I change the book in settings ( tried a couple ) the numbers stay the same.

I have tried F5 and Refresh page too.

samgurt · 09-30-12, 03:50 PM

So nice to see how much $ is put on each team. Helps determine why the lines are moving, rather than just seeing the % of bets placed on a team

babyglock · 10-01-12, 09:48 AM

I don't know how far along this is, so my comments may be very premature and I don't know how much information you are being given access to so some of this may not be feasible.

It would be nice to have a separate tab under settings that just altered this, the books I care about related to the odds are entirely different than the ones that I would like to see this info from. Also, I didn't have the same sucess at changing books by changing the open line the same way earlier posters reported doing.

I would really like to know which books are reporting, because among other reasons I want to be using books that are this open with SBR.

The % of money wagered columns should be before the % of wagers on a side because it is more important to me where people are putting their money rather than how many people are betting a side.

It is likely unfeasible but if possible a drop down info box like the one in odds with details about what the line was when the money was laid would be awesome.

SBR is off to an awesome start on this and I can't believe you were able to get access to this information for us. I would have been thrilled to get this info after the games were played. Keep up the great work!

rfr3sh · 10-01-12, 09:54 AM

the $ amounts go back to 0 a lot and then update to the new amount

Bill Dozer · 10-01-12, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by samgurt

Looks very good. Nice and clean. Very easy to understand

What I would change:

1. Add the opening line
2. Get rid of the "Pro Capper" column since nobody should really pay attention to that since there are no names to back up the "pro's" wagers

also....what does the "Limit Wagers" column mean

We will add line history.

Pro capper column is important to some users...many of whom don't post on the forum.

Limit wagers are going to be bets we'll define. Maybe $500 or $1000 more. If there are a lot, we will set it at $5,000. It will be labeled on top so you know.

Originally posted by Pete0

Looks good.

But how reliable is this thing anyways ? Where do you get the info from ? If its a number of books, can you please tell us which books ?
Dont tell me 5Dimes , that automatically negates the product.
( or rather any book that looks to limit certain wagers on one side )

Suggestions :

1 - Labels for columns are too far up. place it down towards the 1st entry.
2 - Remove Pro capper section.
3 - Opening line section to the LEFT of current line.
4 - Limit wagers ? do you mean all the books combined

Looks good overall, will definitely have use of this towards my PRO capping abilities.

We'll look at the interface. thanks. The data is from a few books and it's given on the condition we don't share whos it is as it is sensitive business info for them.

Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

why do best bets from btp matter?

that is an unreal small sample size

It isn't big but is telling. For example, The Patriots got a huge amount of best bets. The sportsbooks got killed on that game.

Originally posted by borednaz

My first thoughts are simple suggestions. I'd like to see a way to compare each event say NFL Seattle Vs ST Louis across books without having to switch in settings between the books. It's a pain to compare while trying to remember the pricing for the last book, even worst is you have multiple books to check lines on.

I know this is beta & features are still being planned. But this will help us "Price Shoppers" do our comparisons quicker & act in better speed.

The data is a compiled from multiple sources so it will be just one view.

Originally posted by The Giant

Did I miss my chance to take a look?

No, we will add you. Shoot Lou a PM.

Dark Horse · 10-01-12, 11:51 AM

Remember the early days when this place had all these sharp players, Bill? You now have an audience that picks about 47-48% ATS in BTP. Books are happy. Why change a good thing?

uncynd · 10-01-12, 12:04 PM

Please consider me for your test

I would like the opportunity to test and give feedback, please let me know!

Uncynd (unconscious from old sites)

SplitAces · 10-01-12, 12:23 PM

I'm In...sign me up too.

gauchojake · 10-01-12, 07:00 PM

I see the tab to change the view from spreads to totals but this doesn't appear to be working at the moment. Will you be adding ML info as well? The ability to export or to filter the data would be pretty cool. Just wish list stuff I guess...

SBR Lou · 10-01-12, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by gauchojake

I see the tab to change the view from spreads to totals but this doesn't appear to be working at the moment. Will you be adding ML info as well? The ability to export or to filter the data would be pretty cool. Just wish list stuff I guess...

What you see is what you get for now. We will be adding more stuff in the future.

Thanks much for all of the feedback so far!

samgurt · 10-01-12, 10:15 PM

Hey Lou,

Do you guys plan on doing other sports other than NFL when the full product is released?

Also totals/Moneyline numbers?

Pete0 · 10-02-12, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by samgurt

Hey Lou,

Do you guys plan on doing other sports other than NFL when the full product is released?

Also totals/Moneyline numbers?

I am interested as well. college foots and MLB

SBR Lou · 10-02-12, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by samgurt

Hey Lou,

Do you guys plan on doing other sports other than NFL when the full product is released?

Also totals/Moneyline numbers?

The idea is to include other sports and bet types in the future. Right now our focus is on offering NFL pointspread data.

vyomguy · 10-02-12, 03:04 PM

lou...can u sign me up for this?

how to access the beta site?

Edit by SBR Lou: I've sent you a PM.

vyomguy · 10-02-12, 05:27 PM

Thanks Lou. Looks like another great product from SBR.

As others have mentioned, totals would be useful too.

One suggestion is to remove "avg bet size"..coz this field is redundant...its amount placed divided by total bets which is already available in 2 previous columns.

But overall...a great job.

Dark Horse · 10-02-12, 05:29 PM

Go to SI if you want these numbers. If people start winning using these SBR figures, do you really think the numbers will stay reliable? SBR is on the books side. Period.

vyomguy · 10-02-12, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

Go to SI if you want these numbers. If people start winning using these SBR figures, do you really think the numbers will stay reliable? SBR is on the books side. Period.

I dont think this will necessarily help people blindly make picks. For example, mondays game there was 1 million on dallas and 350k on chicago. If you blindly followed this, you would have lost.

Just checking this week's game, I see people betting huge money on baltimore and green bay. And I think , both of them will not cover this week.

Just coz bunch of people are betting a side, doesnt mean you have a high probability pick. YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.

Most of the numbers in the beta consensus site are already available for free on several sites..i wont mention which ones. But people are mistaken if they think they will win by PURELY looking at these numbers.

chase hardy · 10-02-12, 07:45 PM

i would like in
thanks

shawn555 · 10-02-12, 08:49 PM

Can I get a look at this thanks.

LVHerbie · 10-03-12, 12:54 AM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

Go to SI if you want these numbers. If people start winning using these SBR figures, do you really think the numbers will stay reliable? SBR is on the books side. Period.

Pretty amazing that with access to a wealth of charts, numbers, and stats still mostly losers play the horses...

Even if the info is good and has value (I haven't seen the product yet so I have no opinion... link please Lou?) my money is on the vast majority not having a clue how to apply the information correctly...

racer43 · 10-03-12, 08:08 AM

I would like to see this as well please, if still possible?