In This Respect, Obama a Huge Step Up in Class for America

[ritehook]

Regardless of your political outlook, I doubt that any but the most obtuse voters will not acknowledge that a President Obama is a huge jump in class for the image of America worldwide.

No longer will Americans have to cringe when the president steps up to a podium, for fear anther bizarre Bushism will be all over YouTube in under an hour.

That the new president can actually put four or five coherent sentences together, pronounce all the words correctly, and not stare at a stray fly on the teleprompter like the Village Idiot staring dumbly at the flight of a sparrow.

From the few paragraphs of his book that I perused in the local Barnes & Noble's, the new guy can also write quite well.
Whereas the old president can barely read.

I do not think Obama will make even a quarter of the "changes" he promises. He's heavy on rhetoric, and a lot of it is bound to turn out as nothing but hot air.

But Ameicans at least will no longer have to be embarrassed at what the world's best unintentional comedian had come up while they were working or sleeping, these last tortuous 8 years.

[moneyline]

I suppose, as long as Biden is forbidden from speaking in public. The man is a walking gaffe machine.

"I have THREE letters for you. J-O-B-S ... jobs."

(and in case nobody told you, being an American means not having to be embarrassed ... France, with their 10% unemployment rate, should be embarrassed ... India and China, having sex selection abortions to rid themselves of little girls, should be embarrassed ... Canada, having to wait two months to get an MRI that takes us two days, should be embarrassed ... forgive me if my embarrassment for being an American hasn't happened like Europeans tell me it should)

[reno cool]

people living in the street.
no access to proper health care
soldiers murdering civilians in foreign lands
torture
high rate of imprisonment(a business)
population ignorant and dismissive of others.

all in the richest country in the world

plenty of reasons to be ashamed, plenty

[Deuce]

people living in the street.
no access to proper health care
soldiers murdering civilians in foreign lands
torture
high rate of imprisonment(a business)
population ignorant and dismissive of others.

all in the richest country in the world

plenty of reasons to be ashamed, plenty

I am not ashamed whatsoever.
Plenty of access to health care. Quite expensive though and which is not controlled by the government.
Torture is also not by the government. People don't know how to act and should be punished accordingly.
Soldiers are murdering civilians? Like walk up click boom murder?
High rate of imprisonment is based on lack of education, laziness, greed, etc.

I am not ashamed of where I come from or what my country stands for. Always have been hard working and accomplished great steps to where we are today. Every country aspires to be us and have what we have. People today don't have a conscience and are selfish. Rarely do you get people to lend a hand in need. I am not talking give the lazy fukk some cash because he is too good to work at Wendy's either. I am talking about old values. Hold the door for the next person, respect your elders, treat people like you would want to be treated, judge people based on the content of their character not their profile. The country would be a much better and happier place.

[andywend]

Ritehook, there were many things about President Bush that I did NOT like but his inability to deliver the perfect speech certainly wasn't an embarassment to me and to the majority of Americans.

In this election, the voters voted with their hearts instead of with their minds. They voted for the candidate who looks better in front of a microphone instead of the candidate who actually is qualified to run this country.

It was no surprise to see the Dow drop 500 points on Wednesday and that drop would have been 1500 if the democrats won a 60 seat majority.

With that being said, the voters have spoken and I'll do what so many left-wing lunatics wouldn't do over the last 8 years and that is to support my new president regardless of how much I disagree with his politics.

[andywend]

Deuce, one good thing about Obama winning is we won't have to hear the constant whining and screeching from left-wing nutjobs like Reno Cool for the next 4 years.

[reno cool]

you're not getting off that easy, douche bag.

[jjgold]

Deuce your from the fukkin projects of Detroit so surprised you do not support Obama

[RogueJuror]

jj are the black hookers in newark more happy? are they giving better service? have you noticed 'change'?

[jjgold]

No one cares in Newark

Too many people broke here and have their own problems

[EBSB52]

I suppose, as long as Biden is forbidden from speaking in public. The man is a walking gaffe machine.

"I have THREE letters for you. J-O-B-S ... jobs."

(and in case nobody told you, being an American means not having to be embarrassed ... France, with their 10% unemployment rate, should be embarrassed ... India and China, having sex selection abortions to rid themselves of little girls, should be embarrassed ... Canada, having to wait two months to get an MRI that takes us two days, should be embarrassed ... forgive me if my embarrassment for being an American hasn't happened like Europeans tell me it should)

>>>>>>>>>France, with their 10% unemployment rate, should be embarrassed


And they have social svs in the meantime

>>>>>>>>>India and China, having sex selection abortions to rid themselves of little girls, should be embarrassed


Does this happen? Evidence pls.

>>>>>>>>>>Canada, having to wait two months to get an MRI that takes us two days, should be embarrassed

Correction, if you have insurance, and you will pay for a part of it, perhaps a large part of it. Emergency care is the same as here.


>>>>>>>>>forgive me if my embarrassment for being an American hasn't happened like Europeans tell me it should


Sure, there's still plenty to be embarrassed about, like:

- until 2 years ago we executed peopel for capital crimes committed at 16 and 17. And then we were the world leaders at 19 of the previous 39 juvenile executions.

- Huge homeless rate even with the consideration that we are far and away the richest country on earth. All the while, matching the world in military spending.

- Highest prison rate, prisons that are corporate managed, that lead to a huge recitivism rate.

- Low educational rate, considering the asset we have, we fail to educate our children.

- Usually pardoning or other excusal for corporate criminals, damaging millions of everyday people.

- And finally, being a Republican is about as embarrassing as it gets.

[EBSB52]

I am not ashamed whatsoever.
Plenty of access to health care. Quite expensive though and which is not controlled by the government.
Torture is also not by the government. People don't know how to act and should be punished accordingly.
Soldiers are murdering civilians? Like walk up click boom murder?
High rate of imprisonment is based on lack of education, laziness, greed, etc.

I am not ashamed of where I come from or what my country stands for. Always have been hard working and accomplished great steps to where we are today. Every country aspires to be us and have what we have. People today don't have a conscience and are selfish. Rarely do you get people to lend a hand in need. I am not talking give the lazy fukk some cash because he is too good to work at Wendy's either. I am talking about old values. Hold the door for the next person, respect your elders, treat people like you would want to be treated, judge people based on the content of their character not their profile. The country would be a much better and happier place.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am not ashamed whatsoever.

You must be rich.


>>>>>>>>>>>>Plenty of access to health care. Quite expensive though and which is not controlled by the government.

Kind of contradictory; lot's of healthcare if you can afford it = lots of ferarri's out there, if you can afford one. SO essentially, since it's expensive, it's not for everyone.

Alos, your answer is there, since it's unavailable and it's not controlled by the gov, perhaps it should be....hard to argue that based upon your own words.


>>>>>>>>>>Torture is also not by the government. People don't know how to act and should be punished accordingly.

OMG, do you watch the news, read papers, internet, etc??? Guantanamo Bay, Cuba ring a bell? Jesus, have you not heard about that?


>>>>>>>>>Soldiers are murdering civilians? Like walk up click boom murder?

Have you heard of Iraq? Do you think he's refering to the USA?


>>>>>>>>>>High rate of imprisonment is based on lack of education, laziness, greed, etc.

Also selective prosecution. SO then you agree that jails/prisons should educate prisoners? Good, me too.


>>>>>>>>>>Every country aspires to be us and have what we have.

Now that's funny. You must be reading news from 1960.

[EBSB52]

Ritehook, there were many things about President Bush that I did NOT like but his inability to deliver the perfect speech certainly wasn't an embarassment to me and to the majority of Americans.

In this election, the voters voted with their hearts instead of with their minds. They voted for the candidate who looks better in front of a microphone instead of the candidate who actually is qualified to run this country.

It was no surprise to see the Dow drop 500 points on Wednesday and that drop would have been 1500 if the democrats won a 60 seat majority.

With that being said, the voters have spoken and I'll do what so many left-wing lunatics wouldn't do over the last 8 years and that is to support my new president regardless of how much I disagree with his politics.

Let's see, Bush enacting the Overtime Law, killing the Ergonomics Bill, going into Iraq illegally, running teh national debt from 5.5T to over 10T, constitutional deprivations out the ass, Katrina mishandled causing unknown numbers of deaths, and a myriad of other **** ups and McCain came from the same school of thought, corp tax cuts, etc... and you think this election was from the heart? The worst president in history and the new Republican offerring being virtually a cookie cutter twin and you think this election was emotional? How's the crack tasting?


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It was no surprise to see the Dow drop 500 points on Wednesday and that drop would have been 1500 if the democrats won a 60 seat majority.


Look at the market as of the last 2 months and make any sense of it. The most volatile markey ever and it's going on worldwide and you want to attribute it to Obama's election? Any more brilliant prognostications that I can bet the opposite side of?


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>With that being said, the voters have spoken and I'll do what so many left-wing lunatics wouldn't do over the last 8 years and that is to support my new president regardless of how much I disagree with his politics.


What a lunatic bunch we are, not supporting torture, an illegal war that has killed 4k+ and cost 700B to date, support an elitist fascist fiscal regime that pushes all the $$$ to the top? Yea, what a mutiny to such a great president. No wonder you neo-cons have to resort to whining about who looks better in front of the microphone.

[EBSB52]

Deuce, one good thing about Obama winning is we won't have to hear the constant whining and screeching from left-wing nutjobs like Reno Cool for the next 4 years.

Yea, and the rest of the country was so ok with Bush and his evil twin war monger McCain.

[nosniboR11]

idiot democrats

[ritehook]

In the OT I was talking style and character.

Not about policy, ie, politics.

Bush, I am convinced, was brain-damaged by overuse of cocaine while at Yale. (I once knew a guy who was at Yale only a few years behind GW, and he told me that coke was the drug of choice among the Yalies)

Thus, you had a grown man, the president no less, with the mind of a child. At a G8 meeting in Europe a few years ago, Bush did not know the microphone was still on.

He's heard telling someone, likely a Russian, that he (the Russian) lives "in a big coutry." And went on to explain: "Russia's a big country. And China's a big country."

Like a child reciting a geography lesson. You have to hear it to believe it, and see the sick absurdity. It's on YouTube.

A brain-damaged dude severely damaged this country.

The glories of "democratic rule."

[TeamPlayer]

idiot democrats

That's not an argument, nosnibo. You only succeded proving that you are a moron.

[andywend]

EBSB52, its not Bush's fault that you have failed in everything you have done in your life and Obama won't change your failure into success.

Liberal democrats are morons who can't make it on their own so they support politicians who are willing to take from the rich in hopes that a few crumbs fall their way.

The democratic party will always be the party of FAILURE.

[EBSB52]

EBSB52, its not Bush's fault that you have failed in everything you have done in your life and Obama won't change your failure into success.

Liberal democrats are morons who can't make it on their own so they support politicians who are willing to take from the rich in hopes that a few crumbs fall their way.

The democratic party will always be the party of FAILURE.

What's the matter little girl, can't address the points I made?


Let's see, Bush enacting the Overtime Law, killing the Ergonomics Bill, going into Iraq illegally, running teh national debt from 5.5T to over 10T, constitutional deprivations out the ass, Katrina mishandled causing unknown numbers of deaths, and a myriad of other **** ups and McCain came from the same school of thought, corp tax cuts, etc... and you think this election was from the heart? The worst president in history and the new Republican offerring being virtually a cookie cutter twin and you think this election was emotional? How's the crack tasting?
Look at the market as of the last 2 months and make any sense of it. The most volatile markey ever and it's going on worldwide and you want to attribute it to Obama's election? Any more brilliant prognostications that I can bet the opposite side of?
What a lunatic bunch we are, not supporting torture, an illegal war that has killed 4k+ and cost 700B to date, support an elitist fascist fiscal regime that pushes all the $$$ to the top? Yea, what a mutiny to such a great president. No wonder you neo-cons have to resort to whining about who looks better in front of the microphone.


I'm reasonably successful, just like the guy you elected, successful at slammingthedebt, so you are also successful, successful at electing garbage; nice job.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Liberal democrats are morons who can't make it on their own so they support politicians who are willing to take from the rich in hopes that a few crumbs fall their way.


Good thing I'm not a liberal Dem then, as I am huge pro-gun and anti-affirmative Action, at least the current rendering of it. As for your little thoughts above, you've just defined supply-side economics, or as we call it, trickle-down. And yes, I am against trickle-down, it kept us into the Great Depression longer, defined Reagan's aweful presidency and epitomized GWB's.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The democratic party will always be the party of FAILURE.


Got us thru WWI, WWII and out of the Great Depression, as well as guided us thru the greatest economic success of all times, the Clinton era. BTW, chewck the gubanatorial races, senatorial and House races this time, I'd msay you're the loser

[losturmarbles]

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Got us thru WWI, WWII and out of the Great Depression, as well as guided us thru the greatest economic success of all times, the Clinton era. BTW, chewck the gubanatorial races, senatorial and House races this time, I'd msay you're the loser

you seriously need to check your history. what exactly did democrats do to get us thru ww1,2, and the great depression?
funny you don't mention how democrats took us to vietnam and korea?

and greatest economic success, clinton era? are you really that thick? how about googling "contract with america 1994". if you want something to attribute any of our economic success to in the "clinton era", that is it--a republican takeover of congress.

[losturmarbles]

EBSB52, its not Bush's fault that you have failed in everything you have done in your life and Obama won't change your failure into success.

Liberal democrats are morons who can't make it on their own so they support politicians who are willing to take from the rich in hopes that a few crumbs fall their way.

The democratic party will always be the party of FAILURE.

wow somebody who actually gets it

[EBSB52]

you seriously need to check your history. what exactly did democrats do to get us thru ww1,2, and the great depression?
funny you don't mention how democrats took us to vietnam and korea?

and greatest economic success, clinton era? are you really that thick? how about googling "contract with america 1994". if you want something to attribute any of our economic success to in the "clinton era", that is it--a republican takeover of congress.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you seriously need to check your history. what exactly did democrats do to get us thru ww1,2, and the great depression?


After Wilson led us thru a successful WWI, Republican presidents, Harding and Coolidge ran this country into the ground via GOP policy leading to the GD. Hoover inherited this and continued the same great traditions and the term, "Trickle Down" was coined, as he fed businesses money and thousands died in the streets. You might want to check the Bonus Army and see what a military lover Hoover was too.

Then FDR was elected by a monsterous landslide and the New Deals were made, GDP increased every years FDR was a president and the country survived. Then came WWII and FDR did a great job leading us thru that.

The acts that saved people, not just rich peopel as you would have, but all people were Social Security, 1938 Fair Labor Standards Act and many more social programs that prevented further suffering.


>>>>>>>>>>>>and greatest economic success, clinton era? are you really that thick?


No, are you that much of a right wing maggot? All of the millionaires made, DJ from 3500-9800, unemp from 7% to 4%, wages up, .... figure it out.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>how about googling "contract with america 1994". if you want something to attribute any of our economic success to in the "clinton era", that is it--a republican takeover of congress.


And the various measures drafted by congress were signed by whom? Hell, he had to risk shutting the gov down to make the Nazis in congress do right and send something worth signing. BTW, if you have an argument to make, make it instead of grandstanding; I'm all ears/eyes.

After your guy tanked teh country more than anyone could conceive, now you want to steal some of Clinton's success.....pathetic.

[EBSB52]

wow somebody who actually gets it

Here, I get it:

- 1981 Reagan took office: debt = 1 trillion

- Now, Repukes 20 of 28 years as pres, owned congress for much of that time and SCOTUS virtually all of it; Debt = 10.5T



That I get....keep-a-spinnin

[reno cool]

EBSB52, its not Bush's fault that you have failed in everything you have done in your life and Obama won't change your failure into success.

Liberal democrats are morons who can't make it on their own so they support politicians who are willing to take from the rich in hopes that a few crumbs fall their way.

The democratic party will always be the party of FAILURE.

Many people disagree with the notion that public policy should be guided solely by the interests of business or the rich. This is only fair because most people are hurt not benefited by such policy. Your characterization of such people as inadequate is pure fantasy.

[TPowell]

Obama isnt that good of a speaker IMO, he always seems to fumble over his words. Maybe it was just the last couple of speeches but I thought he'd be a lot better to be honest

[Deuce]

Obama isnt that good of a speaker IMO, he always seems to fumble over his words. Maybe it was just the last couple of speeches but I thought he'd be a lot better to be honest

When scripted he is solid, when he is free speaking, guy is as bad as Bush.

[Portlander]

Got us thru WWI, WWII and out of the Great Depression, as well as guided us thru the greatest economic success of all times, the Clinton era. BTW, chewck the gubanatorial races, senatorial and House races this time, I'd msay you're the loser

LOL well said. The people who just took the bus off the cliff looking up out of the smouldering ruins and with horror saying "What you are going to let him drive the next bus??? Uh.. They are uh.. um.. failures.. you cant let them drive.