Penn St. Will win the National Championship

[bigboydan]

They will run the table and and win it.

[gm2022]

will get there but wont win it!

[element1286]

I hope not. Hate those jag-offs in Happy Valley.

[bigboydan]

Hate those jag-offs in Happy Valley.

You might hate them, however your gonna have to respect them once they win it sir.

[element1286]

You might hate them, however your gonna have to respect them once they win it sir.

Very true.

[mmike032]

they will suffer from the Ohio State syndrome in the title game

[gm2022]

they will suffer from the Ohio State syndrome in the title game

yes, look at what ohio st D did to them, Maybe the will be able to score on Texas Tech(if they get there) but every other team that has a chance of playing against Penn St will shut that offense down!

[CaneDawg]

they will get there

and then take a beating by fla

[I.R.B]

I agree on them running the table but winning it all is another.. I belive they have a chance. a small chance but still a chance.

[Chi_archie]

they will suffer from the Ohio State syndrome in the title game

Joe Pa and CO... emphasis on the CO....always get their team ready for bowl games..

plus, even of late Big ten holds their own against other "better" conferences...

ohio st. gives big ten a bad rap of late...but no one mentions PSU's bowl record

[mmike032]

who had PSU beaten in bowl games? just curious IDK not being a smartass.
IMO FLA, TT, Oklahoma, and Texas would destroy PSU

[BadNina]

Poor Danny has been guzzling that Wild Turkey.

[Chi_archie]

great question..mike.

i'd have to look it up for certain, but in the past 3 years or so I think they have beaten
texas am
Tennesee
florida st.

now none of those teams was the best in the conference that year... but they were equally matched with PSU.. in other words a 3rd or 4th best big 12 team vs a 3rd or 4th big ten team.. Tennessee was pretty good their year though I believe.

psu also recently played auburn and think they got blown out...

and there was a horrible spell for 2-3 years where they didn't go..

but i would bet if you looked up their bowl record when they first entered the big ten and before..they beat plenty of big conference teams.

[element1286]

great question..mike.

i'd have to look it up for certain, but in the past 3 years or so I think they have beaten
texas am
Tennesee
florida st.

now none of those teams was the best in the conference that year... but they were equally matched with PSU.. in other words a 3rd or 4th best big 12 team vs a 3rd or 4th big ten team.. Tennessee was pretty good their year though I believe.

psu also recently played auburn and think they got blown out...

and there was a horrible spell for 2-3 years where they didn't go..

but i would bet if you looked up their bowl record when they first entered the big ten and before..they beat plenty of big conference teams.

Lost 13-9 against Auburn in 2002.

[unde0087]

If they make it we will see yet another Big 10 beat down. Lets hope they don't because I want to see a game that isn't over by the half. This team would have 2 losses already if they were in the Big 12 or SEC

[unde0087]

Dan, you name your price and I will take the bet that they will not win

[Chi_archie]

penn state isn't your typical big ten team either...

while they have the great defense of the big ten, that all the other conference lovers always forget about, they have the great running game...


they also have tremendous speed on the perimeter positions...somtimes Joe pa doens't utilize this enough during conference games for some reason, and plays conservative... but they have some real play makers...

they also have a mobile quarterback

in bowl games PSU usually comes up with a couple "wrinkle" packages that use skill guys to exploit holes in the other teams defense... remember for a bowl game, coaches have what..4-6 weeks to get ready for their opponent.PSU has at least 3 coaches on staff that could be head coaches at other programs, and they love to watch game tape.

[onlooker]

Very disappointed with you Dan. You of all people should know that no Big Ten team is strong enough to win a National Championship these days.

[JRS21386]

If Alabama beats LSU Saturday they have it locked...

[tunaguitar76]

Penn State will get certainly lose in the title game. They've had what, one tough game all year OSU and they were easily handled by USC.

The Joe Pa myth is dead. He watches the game from a booth. Does anyone really think he does anything anymore? he's nothing more than a motivational speaker. I'd like to see him win but, it's not the same. He's more worried about staying a top the wins list and not leaving them in the shape they've been in.

[mmike032]

If Alabama beats LSU tomorrow they have it locked...

tommorrow
actually they have to beat FLA in the SEC title game, which I dont see happening

[michiganstatefan]

Everyone is overlooking their last game of the season vs Msu. Yes its at home and yes penn state is the obvious favorite.But coming off a bye week and playing for the big ten title for the first time in a decade will motivate the spartans dantonio will have his crew ready. Assuming state beats purdue this week. Dont sleep on this one!

[JRS21386]

tommorrow
actually they have to beat FLA in the SEC title game, which I dont see happening

It will be a good game, Alabama is actually playing complete games now.. Florida dismantled the SAME teams Alabama has dismantled this season... The game against LSU will be a good milemarker...

[mmike032]

what game did Bama play an entire game? last week?

[JRS21386]

Tennessee and Yes last week... But thats a good sign, that is Alabamas ONLY weak spot, if they can perfect that they can run with Florida

[Chi_archie]

Penn State will get certainly lose in the title game. They've had what, one tough game all year OSU and they were easily handled by USC.

The Joe Pa myth is dead. He watches the game from a booth. Does anyone really think he does anything anymore? he's nothing more than a motivational speaker. I'd like to see him win but, it's not the same. He's more worried about staying a top the wins list and not leaving them in the shape they've been in.

I wouldn't favor Penn state in a game vs bama, texas, fl, or oklahoma.r if it were this saturday.. i think they would be a very interesting match up for texas tech

but at the same time, I don't think you can really tell for sure how PSU were to fare.

to use the above Ohio state/USC game as proof is not so simple... someone can just as easily say that PSU blew Oregon St. out big time.... Oregon St. beat USC 2 weeks later..... USC blew out ohio st... but penn state only beat Ohio State by 7...... round and round you go... but it only takes you in circles...

this is why they play the game.

Joe Pa does very little on saturday anymore, but I think he does more then we know during the week. this guy has forgot more football then just about anyone alive has ever known.... he has surrounded himself with alot of great coaches..given the right talent, they know how to win...and they have a ton of talent this year.

[InTheHole]

I don't think so...who do you think they'll be playing?

[Chi_archie]

there is a lot to figure out yet really....

what if everyone loses???

bama loses to fl in sec championship, or LSU even..

penn state has two tough games in Iowa and Mich st. especially

texas tech loses to oklahoma state or missouri?

oklahoma and oklahoma st still square off


heck maybe you end up with USC vs OK or OK St...

even USC has a losable games in Cal, a tough stanford team and Notre Dame..

[MonkeyF0cker]

I wouldn't favor Penn state in a game vs bama, texas, fl, or oklahoma.r if it were this saturday.. i think they would be a very interesting match up for texas tech

but at the same time, I don't think you can really tell for sure how PSU were to fare.

to use the above Ohio state/USC game as proof is not so simple... someone can just as easily say that PSU blew Oregon St. out big time.... Oregon St. beat USC 2 weeks later..... USC blew out ohio st... but penn state only beat Ohio State by 7...... round and round you go... but it only takes you in circles...

this is why they play the game.

Joe Pa does very little on saturday anymore, but I think he does more then we know during the week. this guy has forgot more football then just about anyone alive has ever known.... he has surrounded himself with alot of great coaches..given the right talent, they know how to win...and they have a ton of talent this year.

When USC played OSU, Pryor was not starting at QB and Wells was out with injury. So to compare those two games is not exactly fair.

[hoopster42]

i am a big-10 detractor as i have been following the conference closely for years

but trust me on this one

PENN STATE 08 > OHIO STATE 02

and all ohio state 02 did was beat a stacked miami team that had won the national title the season before and was on a 23 game winning streak going into the game

penn state 08, as chi archie said above, is not the usual big-10 team because they have speed to burn combined with great physical play. i was down on them early on feeling they were a pretender nut now i believe they are absolutely positively a serious contender

i dont believe penn state would lose at oregon state like usc did

and i dont believe penn state would lose at home to ole miss like florida did

i also think they would bitch-slap texas tech on a neutral field or in happy valley

and i think they match up against anyone else in the country

maybe if they dominate a scrappy iowa team in iowa city and then beat up a pretty good michigan state team in happy valley, then ppl will give them some credit

some of the cfb opinions on this site are downright stupid

[pimike]

Either way Penn goes out with a perfect record and Jopa retires.

Don't care if they don't get the BCS as long as they win out

[regularguy]

I think Iowa might give Penn State a game this weekend.

[hoopster42]

those who dont think penn state is that good, please look up the last 15 yrs of big-10 football and show me a game where wisconsin got dominated at home

i know wisconsin is down this season, but they still have a decent team, yet penn state beat them 48-7 in camp randall!

digest that for a minute

they also held ohio state to 2 fg's in columbus, when's the last time that happened?

this team has offense, defense, special teams, and great coaching

i changed my opinion on them, and for good reason

[Chi_archie]

When USC played OSU, Pryor was not starting at QB and Wells was out with injury. So to compare those two games is not exactly fair.

I was saying how comparisons aren't as usual as people think...especially early season games to figure out late season games.... its all about match ups and schemes on that particular saturday.

[Willie Bee]

This thread brought to you by the same person that said McCain would win, is preparing for the next terrorist attack just because Obama did win, hopes that Obama gets 'impeeched' and also hopes that Obama raises the price of beer. Just sayin'.