Why would refs accept deal now?

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • big0mar
    SBR MVP
    • 01-09-09
    • 3374

    #1
    Why would refs accept deal now?
    Demands should be double what they were last week

    Guys should ask for ownership share of all 32 teams

    NFL has no leverage right now. Dumb for them to continue negotiating
    [B][B]They key isn't getting rich quick. The key is getting rich slowly, and enjoying it.

    [/B][/B][SIZE=1][URL="http://forum.sbrforum.com/sbr-points/490161-points-available-loan.html#post4633361"][/URL][/SIZE]
  • SBR Lou
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 08-02-07
    • 37863

    #2
    I don't think their deal is about greed. They just want to get the deal struck and get back on the field. Apparently the NFL wanted the referees to be full-time employees, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
    Comment
    • CarpeDime
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-01-09
      • 7873

      #3
      Originally posted by big0mar
      Demands should be double what they were last week

      Guys should ask for ownership share of all 32 teams

      NFL has no leverage right now. Dumb for them to continue negotiating
      refs should hit back super hard with an offer to start up next week but yes with enormous demands

      if NFL says no, go public with it

      they should think of the most they ever thought was possible for them to get, and ask for two and a half times that, say they can be on the field by the Thursday game

      thats how you fukin negotiate, hardball, zero mercy, nothing personal strictly business

      if the nfl says no, come back with a new offer on wednesday asking for double the Tuesday offer, show them whos boss, no fear no mercy no negotiations
      Comment
      • shaunovery
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-15-07
        • 18143

        #4
        What is wrong with American professional sports

        NFl amateur refs
        Nba last yr lockout
        NHL this yr lockout

        It doesn't happen here in the uk

        Soccer no problem
        rugby no problem
        Cricket no problem

        So why does it happen
        Comment
        • CarpeDime
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 09-01-09
          • 7873

          #5
          Originally posted by shaunovery
          What is wrong with American professional sports

          NFl amateur refs
          Nba last yr lockout
          NHL this yr lockout

          It doesn't happen here in the uk

          Soccer no problem
          rugby no problem
          Cricket no problem

          So why does it happen
          because you don't have a little thing known as "freedom" that we have in the US, which to some people, is kind of important
          Comment
          • DiggityDaggityDo
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 11-30-08
            • 81450

            #6
            Originally posted by shaunovery
            Soccer no problem
            rugby no problem
            Cricket no problem
            But those arent even real sports.
            Comment
            • shaunovery
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 11-15-07
              • 18143

              #7
              Originally posted by CarpeDime
              because you don't have a little thing known as "freedom" that we have in the US, which to some people, is kind of important
              But we do have freedom i think it's because we don't have 1 person running a sport
              Comment
              • shaunovery
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-15-07
                • 18143

                #8
                Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                But those arent even real sports.
                They are real sports

                The premier league is the biggest watched league in the world and as for betting turnover I would say more is bet on that league than the NFl
                Comment
                • RonPaul2008
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 06-08-07
                  • 6741

                  #9
                  Not per game.

                  Originally posted by shaunovery
                  They are real sports

                  The premier league is the biggest watched league in the world and as for betting turnover I would say more is bet on that league than the NFl
                  Comment
                  • Goat Milk
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 03-24-10
                    • 25850

                    #10
                    Originally posted by CarpeDime
                    refs should hit back super hard with an offer to start up next week but yes with enormous demands

                    if NFL says no, go public with it

                    they should think of the most they ever thought was possible for them to get, and ask for two and a half times that, say they can be on the field by the Thursday game

                    thats how you fukin negotiate, hardball, zero mercy, nothing personal strictly business

                    if the nfl says no, come back with a new offer on wednesday asking for double the Tuesday offer, show them whos boss, no fear no mercy no negotiations
                    agree. good post.
                    Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
                    Comment
                    • DudleyDawson
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 02-10-12
                      • 5658

                      #11
                      Originally posted by big0mar
                      Demands should be double what they were last week

                      Guys should ask for ownership share of all 32 teams

                      NFL has no leverage right now. Dumb for them to continue negotiating
                      The NFL has all the leverage and always will, imo....are people really gonna quit watching and going to games? Come on!
                      Comment
                      • TexansFan
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-06-06
                        • 3365

                        #12
                        Originally posted by shaunovery
                        What is wrong with American professional sports

                        NFl amateur refs
                        Nba last yr lockout
                        NHL this yr lockout

                        It doesn't happen here in the uk

                        Soccer no problem
                        rugby no problem
                        Cricket no problem

                        So why does it happen
                        Well, for one thing, those aren't sports.
                        Comment
                        • antifoil
                          SBR MVP
                          • 11-11-09
                          • 3993

                          #13
                          nfl still has all the leverage.

                          the ratings will increase because people want to see what happens next so they can bitch about it. if there is one thing i know about life its that people love to bitch.
                          Comment
                          • Rod Tidwell
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 09-04-11
                            • 196

                            #14
                            double post...sorry
                            Comment
                            • Rod Tidwell
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 09-04-11
                              • 196

                              #15
                              Originally posted by CarpeDime
                              because you don't have a little thing known as "freedom" that we have in the US, which to some people, is kind of important
                              If you think America is free, you haven't been paying attention. There is zero difference between the UK and here, except for healthcare...other than that we're all sheep.






                              Comment
                              • CarpeDime
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-01-09
                                • 7873

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Rod Tidwell
                                If you think America is free, you haven't been paying attention. There is zero difference between the UK and here, except for healthcare...other than that we're all sheep.






                                you are socialists which means you do not want to take responsibility for your own lives and expect others to work hard and then support you for free so yeah i guess in that sense you have freedom because you want everything for free hahaha lol

                                we are in a democracy which means that we have freedom and earn everything we have which is why we have a lot and which is why in the end other countries have to do what we say and are jealous of us and try to copy us
                                Comment
                                • Rich Boy
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 02-01-09
                                  • 9714

                                  #17
                                  People secretly love watching these replacement refs. Its another element of the game.

                                  Guys cant wait to blow their load when a replacement ref fcks up a call so they can bitch and complain to all their friends.

                                  Its also another excuse for losing wagers (although last night was pretty fvked up).

                                  People love controversy, NFL is more exciting when there is controversy.
                                  Comment
                                  • keyboarding
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 07-30-09
                                    • 6817

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo

                                    But those arent even real sports.


                                    Originally posted by Rich Boy
                                    People secretly love watching these replacement refs. Its another element of the game.

                                    Guys cant wait to blow their load when a replacement ref fcks up a call so they can bitch and complain to all their friends.

                                    Its also another excuse for losing wagers (although last night was pretty fvked up).

                                    People love controversy, NFL is more exciting when there is controversy.
                                    Sharp post.
                                    Comment
                                    • Ernie Mccracken
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-11-11
                                      • 1986

                                      #19
                                      Goodell looks these refs straight in the face:

                                      "You're right. The entire world is against me right now. This is the biggest PR nightmare for pro sports in a long, long time. People are ready to march in the streets, but everyone seems to be forgetting one thing.

                                      The league doesn't belong to you. It doesn't belong to the players who will all be broke within a few years, and it doesn't belong to the 100 million fat idiot fans with no lives outside of their pathetic "true fan" identity. Ratings are higher than ever. Every game is going to be sold out for the rest of the year and we're going to set records for merchandise sales yet again. We're going to make billions no matter what. Last night is proof that you have 0 impact in profitability. Why should I pay you?

                                      I can change the sport the 2 horses f*cking for 4 hours straight and I'd probably sell $50M worth of Mr. Ed jerseys. It does not matter. You have no leverage. I have a nation full of drooling addicted walmart shoppers begging for their football fix and I control 100% of supply.

                                      Last chance. People are going to watch the games with or without you. Take the deal or enjoy reffing western dakota state junior college for the rest of your lives."
                                      Comment
                                      • pattymayo
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 05-19-09
                                        • 10221

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Ernie Mccracken
                                        Goodell looks these refs straight in the face:

                                        "You're right. The entire world is against me right now. This is the biggest PR nightmare for pro sports in a long, long time. People are ready to march in the streets, but everyone seems to be forgetting one thing.

                                        The league doesn't belong to you. It doesn't belong to the players who will all be broke within a few years, and it doesn't belong to the 100 million fat idiot fans with no lives outside of their pathetic "true fan" identity. Ratings are higher than ever. Every game is going to be sold out for the rest of the year and we're going to set records for merchandise sales yet again. We're going to make billions no matter what. Last night is proof that you have 0 impact in profitability. Why should I pay you?

                                        I can change the sport the 2 horses f*cking for 4 hours straight and I'd probably sell $50M worth of Mr. Ed jerseys. It does not matter. You have no leverage. I have a nation full of drooling addicted walmart shoppers begging for their football fix and I control 100% of supply.

                                        Last chance. People are going to watch the games with or without you. Take the deal or enjoy reffing western dakota state junior college for the rest of your lives."


                                        More people are going to tune in now to watch these refs blow calls. The league is just getting crazy now, coaches getting pissed and grabbing refs, not shaking hands, players playing dirtier knowing theres a good chance refs won't make the right calls ... it could get wild
                                        Comment
                                        • C-Gold
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-04-10
                                          • 6808

                                          #21
                                          The funny thing to me is that the lower classes are talking about rioting over a bad call in a fcuking football game. Riots in the streets. Over THAT? Anybody that wants to riot over that is a complete and utter loser in life. If you want to riot riot over QE3 QE infinity. Riot over our grotesque political system. Don't riot over a make believe game that really doesn't matter.
                                          Comment
                                          • Ernie Mccracken
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-11-11
                                            • 1986

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by C-Gold
                                            Anybody that wants to riot over that is a complete and utter loser in life. If you want to riot riot over QE3 QE infinity.
                                            90% of SBR posters think quantitative easing is some kind of teaser bet.
                                            Comment
                                            • Rod Tidwell
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 09-04-11
                                              • 196

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by CarpeDime
                                              you are socialists which means you do not want to take responsibility for your own lives and expect others to work hard and then support you for free so yeah i guess in that sense you have freedom because you want everything for free hahaha lol

                                              we are in a democracy which means that we have freedom and earn everything we have which is why we have a lot and which is why in the end other countries have to do what we say and are jealous of us and try to copy us
                                              Buddy, I'm from Boston. I'm a Republican and small business owner. They have the same freedoms in the UK as we do, I lived there for a few years...really life there is just like here. just my two cents.
                                              Comment
                                              • CarpeDime
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-01-09
                                                • 7873

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Rod Tidwell
                                                Buddy, I'm from Boston. I'm a Republican and small business owner. They have the same freedoms in the UK as we do, I lived there for a few years...really life there is just like here. just my two cents.
                                                in the uk they have socialist medicine which means that people get healthcare just handed to them by the goverment which means that liberal beureucreats in the goverment sit back and decide who gets to live and die aka death panels which oh yeah is exactly what obama tried to force into America

                                                but we will not allow that in America, in America we let the free market decide who gets to live and die

                                                ok well if you are a Republican then good vote for Romney so that we can keep America the way it is supposed to be and not a country of moochers like all the people who freeload and dont pay taxes now
                                                Comment
                                                • Boner_18
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 08-24-08
                                                  • 8301

                                                  #25
                                                  Please. NFL loses no leverage from this shit. We're watching and talking about it more than ever.
                                                  Comment
                                                  • GamblerSpirit
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-18-11
                                                    • 4085

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by pattymayo


                                                    More people are going to tune in now to watch these refs blow calls. The league is just getting crazy now, coaches getting pissed and grabbing refs, not shaking hands, players playing dirtier knowing theres a good chance refs won't make the right calls ... it could get wild
                                                    that's the problem. The NFL is coming off as the biggest hypocrites. Goodell with his rhetoric about integrity of the league and player safety seems to be lost now that the league is the one that is being penalized financially by the refs.(lockout/strike) We're simply being taken for fools.
                                                    Comment
                                                    • Al Masters
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 04-29-06
                                                      • 6940

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by big0mar
                                                      Demands should be double what they were last week

                                                      Guys should ask for ownership share of all 32 teams

                                                      NFL has no leverage right now. Dumb for them to continue negotiating

                                                      The Refs are not looking for more money, they are content with whatever it is they make.

                                                      The Strike is about the pension fund,the Refs want it to stay status quo, which means getting a pre determined amount, the owners want them to pay into a 401 plan which means it can go up or down no gaurantees on what they get.
                                                      Comment
                                                      Search
                                                      Collapse
                                                      SBR Contests
                                                      Collapse
                                                      Top-Rated US Sportsbooks
                                                      Collapse
                                                      Working...