I don't think Obama will win the election...

[TPowell]

lol teaser change your avatar NOW!!! When is the last time Barrack Obama was beaten by Syracuse in football????

[teaserpleaser]

... serious I had a ML parlay with TCU, UTah, cal and added Louisville just because i thought no way in hell Louisville loses to syracuse twice. who on syracuse could play for louisville

[MonkeyF0cker]

no way. The numbers don't compare.

Which numbers are those? You mean a poll asking people if they are racist? Need some common sense? By all means, show us those "numbers."

[TPowell]

the sad thing is if Louisville had won, they would have been literally a game away from the outright lead in the Big East

[EBSB52]

everyone thought that david archeltte would slaugther Cook. we were wrong

prediction is we have a cunt running things in 2010 ^^^^^^^------------------

American idol...... American presidency..... same thing

I think polling is a bit more comprehensive with presidential races. let me go on record by saying Obama is a lock.

[EBSB52]

I dont see any way McCain wins this election sadly, too many first time voters that are voting Obama because of the color of his skin. Sad world we live in

Right, nothing to do with the 3 stooges, Reagan, Bush, Bush giving their future to corporate America for it to decide how they live, no, nothing like that.

[EBSB52]

It is not a landslide McCain probably gets 200, but there are too many states he needs which are not competitive

Nah, I say over 370 for Obama, which leave what 168 for diaper boy?

[EBSB52]

When Obama wins Kentucky I will call this a landslide. When Clinton carried Kentucky thats when a landslide occurred

Clinton should carry southern states, Obama should not.

Your assertion would be like saying if Gordon drives turn #3 at X racetrack then he will win regardless of who finishes the race first, a race is comprised of 100's of turns depending upon the track.

[TPowell]

alright lets get something straight, black voters wouldn't be RUNNING to the polls if Biden, Edwards, or Clinton were running for the democrats. Race will be a big weapon for Obama. Kind of an ingenius strategy actually, JFK wannabe will be our next President

[TPowell]

how many democrats have EVER won Kentucky???

[EBSB52]

alright lets get something straight, black voters wouldn't be RUNNING to the polls if Biden, Edwards, or Clinton were running for the democrats. Race will be a big weapon for Obama. Kind of an ingenius strategy actually, JFK wannabe will be our next President

Obamas color is bringing people out, but so is the trainwreck called the Republican Party. It's impossible to measure how much of each has what effect.

[EBSB52]

how many democrats have EVER won Kentucky???

Who cares? A landslide is determined basd upon usually the # of 370 electoral votes. If a Dem wins Kentucky and loses the race to 270, he loses. This fixation on Kentucky is weird at best.

[TPowell]

thats not true, I'll bet my life that more blacks turn out this year than in 2004, all because one man running happens to be black

[TPowell]

Who cares? A landslide is determined basd upon usually the # of 370 electoral votes. If a Dem wins Kentucky and loses the race to 270, he loses. This fixation on Kentucky is weird at best.

I think its reasonable to imply that if a democrat won Kentucky, he would win even more southern states. Any southern states would be basically death to the republicans

[EBSB52]

thats not true, I'll bet my life that more blacks turn out this year than in 2004, all because one man running happens to be black

And you might be right, might be wrong. In science, you isolate all variables except for 1, which is called the independent variable, then you run the test several times, etc...

Anyway, it is impossible to say if they are turning out for which or both or how much apportionment of the 2 variables that are very present:

- Obama is black

- Republicans have ****ed this country up since Reagan

Those 2 variables are very present and true, how many people have shown up for the first, how many the second? Bet your life all you want, truth is that it will never be quantifiable.

[TPowell]

of course you can't absolutely prove it, but around here the saying is "if it smells like a dog, barks like a dog, its more than likely a dog

[EBSB52]

I think its reasonable to imply that if a democrat won Kentucky, he would win even more southern states. Any southern states would be basically death to the republicans

Probably, Kentucky would be the last or next to the last to yield electoral votes to a Dem, so it is a rough but meaningless barometer.

There are a lot of states like Iowa that are almost always R and are now D. North Dakota is another one. The R's are just stinky right now, they need to work on themselves or get used to the sideline.

It's laughable to me when I hear guys wondering why the R's are getting outsed at all levels, are these people stoned? Is it hard to see the dirty work of the Repubs?

[EBSB52]

of course you can't absolutely prove it, but around here the saying is "if it smells like a dog, barks like a dog, its more than likely a dog

It's really meaningless, Obama probably didn't campaign there much, just as a guess. You should focus on areas that you have a real chance to win and places that have a fair # of E votes. WHat is Kentucky, 5 or 6 E votes?

[WileOut]

how many democrats have EVER won Kentucky???

The governor of Kentucky is a democrat. Thats right, the idiot who is trying to seize all the gambling sites is a democrat. Corruption knows no political boundry.

[capitalist pig]

Im a pretty far right wing type guy, and I honestly dont see McCain winning (barring a total upset), I once stated that IMO the great white vote would rise and beat Obama, but now I dont see that happening. Im proud to say America has come much farther than I had originaly thought was possible in so far as racism issues go. So all I can say is "Go America".

later

[reno cool]

I already have enough funds wagered on the election, Durito. However, if your giving me 50,000 to 1. I'll be more than happy to accept that wager. Here is my $1.00

I guess you consider 50,000-1 close to true odds. Proof that you don't believe McCain has much of a chance.

And to those who are complaining people voting for Obama because he's black. ----good for them, its more valid a reason than most.

[TPowell]

I was just saying that you knew it was a landslide when Clinton won Kentucky, kind of a kick in the nuts to Republicans.

[EBSB52]

I was just saying that you knew it was a landslide when Clinton won Kentucky, kind of a kick in the nuts to Republicans.

I see your point from a political stance, but the Republicans have been their own worst enemy, so losing a given state is merely emblematic of the bigger issues. The R's need to quit looking at teh D's and start looking inside for a change, they could lose teh government for 2 decades or more if the D's fix things.

[MoneySportsGuy]

Its not foolish until the results are win. Many Republican comebacks.

Right on about that. 2004 and 2000 everybody thought Kerry had it locked up. Same with Gore. We all saw how that turned out. There is hope for Republicans they just have to show up and vote, which they will.

Question will be how many Democrats say they want Obama and they would vote, but will they actually turn out?

I remember doing political election research in 2004 and they had a crazy stat about statistics on Republicans and Democrats actually voting, have to see if I can find that.

[ryanXL977]

nobody thought kerry had it locked up. this isnt 2000 or 2004
this is a ****ing trainwreck
this isnt the same

[frostno98]

Right on about that. 2004 and 2000 everybody thought Kerry had it locked up. Same with Gore. We all saw how that turned out. There is hope for Republicans they just have to show up and vote, which they will.

Question will be how many Democrats say they want Obama and they would vote, but will they actually turn out?

I remember doing political election research in 2004 and they had a crazy stat about statistics on Republicans and Democrats actually voting, have to see if I can find that.

The 2000 Election was a tie at best with all national polls showing bush with a 2-3 points lead, so no way the Dems thought they had that one. Until this year, where Obama has an 8-10 point lead at all the major polls.

[MoneySportsGuy]

frostno,

Maybe I need to clarify my original statement. What I was referring to about Kerry and Gore is alot of people thought it would be an easy win for both Al Gore and John Kerry, which it did not turn out to be.

[EBSB52]

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Yea, it was a nailbiter. Hope ya loaded up with all that + money. Books don't often pay 10:1 bets.

[seaborneq]

I guess you only speak for less than 45% percent of the people. Almost 55% voted differently.