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  • BALISTIK
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    • 07-16-12
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    #1
    Thinking about Houston +1000
    Super Bowl Champs? Thoughts?
  • aman86
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    • 08-29-09
    • 3115

    #2
    Not at that price
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    • BALISTIK
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      • 07-16-12
      • 326

      #3
      Originally posted by aman86
      Not at that price
      In your opinion what price should I look for. I thought the price was fair.
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      • Waterstpub87
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        • 09-09-09
        • 4108

        #4
        Why lock your money up for the whole season
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        • BALISTIK
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          • 07-16-12
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          #5
          Originally posted by Waterstpub87
          Why lock your money up for the whole season
          I'm talking a couple hundred bucks...nothing major.
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          • k13
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            • 07-16-10
            • 18104

            #6
            Originally posted by BALISTIK
            In your opinion what price should I look for. I thought the price was fair.
            +1400 +

            You'll have trouble getting it though......going by your avatar.
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            • BALISTIK
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              • 07-16-12
              • 326

              #7
              Originally posted by k13
              +1400 +

              You'll have trouble getting it though......going by your avatar.
              Ha, nice...we can do "some things" around here...you never know!
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              • BALISTIK
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                • 07-16-12
                • 326

                #8
                Seriously, why do you think they should be that high? I think they are top 4 or 5 team this year!
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                • 4TH AND STUPID
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-08-09
                  • 2349

                  #9
                  if matt schaub stays healthy they can go to the superbowl...


                  if not, it will be another 1 and done
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                  • BALISTIK
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                    • 07-16-12
                    • 326

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 4TH AND STUPID
                    if matt schaub stays healthy they can go to the superbowl...


                    if not, it will be another 1 and done
                    I think that is the main question for them, can schaub stay healthy. otherwise, i think they have a big shot!
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                    • therushishere
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                      • 03-21-12
                      • 713

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BALISTIK
                      I think that is the main question for them, can schaub stay healthy. otherwise, i think they have a big shot!
                      I'm a big Texans fan- probably know more about them than most of their own players do. So this is going to be fun

                      I have a different view on Schaub than most. I think he's ok, but im not sure if he can lead a team to a Super Bowl. I actually liked what I saw from TJ Yates a lot last year. In his first NFL action to have him stepping in without any snaps with any of the players on the field and leading them down a 2 minute drive for 50+ yards with no timeouts and getting a FG is exceptional. I think that Schaub getting injured again would be the best thing that could happen to this team. You could tell if you read between the lines how excited the main players and coaches were about him last year- of course it was a bit of an awkward position for Schaub and they definitely weren't going to throw him under the bus so they said all the right things to lend their support. The truth of the matter is that hes had several seasons with one of the best offensive minds of our time (3 Super Bowls in the 90s with him running the offense for the Broncos remember) so of course hes going to put up amazing numbers. Kubiak even got something out of Griese and Plummer in limited exposure to them.

                      TJ Yates deep ball:


                      Matt Schaub deep ball at 1:16, 1:35, 3:00, 3:18


                      Yates also has the quickest release ever recorded since Dan Marino.

                      Given an entire off-season working with the staff as well as running the first team through OTAs while Schaub was heeling should benefit him immensely. Btw- hes also already won a playoff game and also would have won one on the road in Baltimore had it not been for Jacoby Jones muffing the put and giving Baltimore 7 free points in such a close game. He was playing from behind and forced to pass when he made each of his mistakes.

                      If you had Foster and Tate behind that offensive line running the bootleg system he employs you could be a pretty successful QB as well.

                      Johnson and Walter need to stay healthy come playoff time. They have a lot of talent behind them but you don't want guys playing in their first year having to make big contributions in the playoffs. Daniels is having his first full off-season in years and he and Casey will be a bigger part of the offense this year. BTW this is where Bellicheck got his ideas to use TEs more.

                      Defensively, they're set. They added a guy who should have been a first round pick prior to injury on the line and have some young guys that could make a pretty big impact if they got the opportunity to at LB and CB (Braman, Harris, Carmichael). They added a physical specimen to their 3-man OLB rush package in the first round, signed a cheaper version of Demeco Ryans to run the defense while Cushing can go back to playing instinctively and will have a DPOY type season. Jonathan Joseph was a Pro-Bowl corner last year and both Manning and Quinn have Pro-Bowl potential at the safety spots.
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                      • BALISTIK
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                        • 07-16-12
                        • 326

                        #12
                        Originally posted by therushishere
                        I'm a big Texans fan- probably know more about them than most of their own players do. So this is going to be fun

                        I have a different view on Schaub than most. I think he's ok, but im not sure if he can lead a team to a Super Bowl. I actually liked what I saw from TJ Yates a lot last year. In his first NFL action to have him stepping in without any snaps with any of the players on the field and leading them down a 2 minute drive for 50+ yards with no timeouts and getting a FG is exceptional. I think that Schaub getting injured again would be the best thing that could happen to this team. You could tell if you read between the lines how excited the main players and coaches were about him last year- of course it was a bit of an awkward position for Schaub and they definitely weren't going to throw him under the bus so they said all the right things to lend their support. The truth of the matter is that hes had several seasons with one of the best offensive minds of our time (3 Super Bowls in the 90s with him running the offense for the Broncos remember) so of course hes going to put up amazing numbers. Kubiak even got something out of Griese and Plummer in limited exposure to them.

                        TJ Yates deep ball:


                        Matt Schaub deep ball at 1:16, 1:35, 3:00, 3:18


                        Yates also has the quickest release ever recorded since Dan Marino.

                        Given an entire off-season working with the staff as well as running the first team through OTAs while Schaub was heeling should benefit him immensely. Btw- hes also already won a playoff game and also would have won one on the road in Baltimore had it not been for Jacoby Jones muffing the put and giving Baltimore 7 free points in such a close game. He was playing from behind and forced to pass when he made each of his mistakes.

                        If you had Foster and Tate behind that offensive line running the bootleg system he employs you could be a pretty successful QB as well.

                        Johnson and Walter need to stay healthy come playoff time. They have a lot of talent behind them but you don't want guys playing in their first year having to make big contributions in the playoffs. Daniels is having his first full off-season in years and he and Casey will be a bigger part of the offense this year. BTW this is where Bellicheck got his ideas to use TEs more.

                        Defensively, they're set. They added a guy who should have been a first round pick prior to injury on the line and have some young guys that could make a pretty big impact if they got the opportunity to at LB and CB (Braman, Harris, Carmichael). They added a physical specimen to their 3-man OLB rush package in the first round, signed a cheaper version of Demeco Ryans to run the defense while Cushing can go back to playing instinctively and will have a DPOY type season. Jonathan Joseph was a Pro-Bowl corner last year and both Manning and Quinn have Pro-Bowl potential at the safety spots.
                        Good info here thanks! solidifies my bet? I think so. I think 10-1 is a nice number.
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                        • greenhippo
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                          • 02-15-12
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                          #13
                          Will kindly disagree with therush. Schaub is projected to be his old self come preseason, he is by far their best chance at getting to the big game THIS year. The D is still solid and both foster and aj should hopefully have full healthy seasons unlike last year. They're built to, and hopefully will, beat the stealers/ravens/jets of the AFC. It's the high powered offensive teams I'm wary about. Even given the circumstances last year, I saw zero chance of them beating the Panthers last year. Yates looked just fine last year, but look at team totals since he started playing, they failed to put up the big numbers they were before Schaub went down.

                          10:1 on your money for a hundo or two seems worth it to me, depending on matchups I wouldn't even attempt a hedge until the AFC title game and they're up against the Pats. Only team I see as a big time obstacle. Me being a homer, pats/packers/saints(no way they make it that far) are the only teams I'd have no problem putting money on against the texans this next year.
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                          • therushishere
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                            • 03-21-12
                            • 713

                            #14
                            Originally posted by greenhippo
                            Will kindly disagree with therush. Schaub is projected to be his old self come preseason, he is by far their best chance at getting to the big game THIS year. The D is still solid and both foster and aj should hopefully have full healthy seasons unlike last year. They're built to, and hopefully will, beat the stealers/ravens/jets of the AFC. It's the high powered offensive teams I'm wary about. Even given the circumstances last year, I saw zero chance of them beating the Panthers last year. Yates looked just fine last year, but look at team totals since he started playing, they failed to put up the big numbers they were before Schaub went down.

                            10:1 on your money for a hundo or two seems worth it to me, depending on matchups I wouldn't even attempt a hedge until the AFC title game and they're up against the Pats. Only team I see as a big time obstacle. Me being a homer, pats/packers/saints(no way they make it that far) are the only teams I'd have no problem putting money on against the texans this next year.
                            In terms of TT, Schaub had the whole playboob not only open but learned. TJ only had a few pages open and still put up 19+.

                            This is coming from a guy that sold his car and went to vegas with the money to put on the Texans to try to hit big and help his family though. As much as I love the #13 team in sports though, im not getting that feeling yet. Ill probably be putting in a wager as soon as Schaub goes down and evaluate from there.
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                            • therushishere
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                              • 03-21-12
                              • 713

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BALISTIK
                              Good info here thanks! solidifies my bet? I think so. I think 10-1 is a nice number.
                              BTW I think I got 36 to 1 around week 14
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                              • 4TH AND STUPID
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-08-09
                                • 2349

                                #16
                                Originally posted by therushishere
                                I'm a big Texans fan- probably know more about them than most of their own players do. So this is going to be fun

                                I have a different view on Schaub than most. I think he's ok, but im not sure if he can lead a team to a Super Bowl. I actually liked what I saw from TJ Yates a lot last year. In his first NFL action to have him stepping in without any snaps with any of the players on the field and leading them down a 2 minute drive for 50+ yards with no timeouts and getting a FG is exceptional. I think that Schaub getting injured again would be the best thing that could happen to this team. You could tell if you read between the lines how excited the main players and coaches were about him last year- of course it was a bit of an awkward position for Schaub and they definitely weren't going to throw him under the bus so they said all the right things to lend their support. The truth of the matter is that hes had several seasons with one of the best offensive minds of our time (3 Super Bowls in the 90s with him running the offense for the Broncos remember) so of course hes going to put up amazing numbers. Kubiak even got something out of Griese and Plummer in limited exposure to them.

                                TJ Yates deep ball:


                                Matt Schaub deep ball at 1:16, 1:35, 3:00, 3:18


                                Yates also has the quickest release ever recorded since Dan Marino.

                                Given an entire off-season working with the staff as well as running the first team through OTAs while Schaub was heeling should benefit him immensely. Btw- hes also already won a playoff game and also would have won one on the road in Baltimore had it not been for Jacoby Jones muffing the put and giving Baltimore 7 free points in such a close game. He was playing from behind and forced to pass when he made each of his mistakes.

                                If you had Foster and Tate behind that offensive line running the bootleg system he employs you could be a pretty successful QB as well.

                                Johnson and Walter need to stay healthy come playoff time. They have a lot of talent behind them but you don't want guys playing in their first year having to make big contributions in the playoffs. Daniels is having his first full off-season in years and he and Casey will be a bigger part of the offense this year. BTW this is where Bellicheck got his ideas to use TEs more.

                                Defensively, they're set. They added a guy who should have been a first round pick prior to injury on the line and have some young guys that could make a pretty big impact if they got the opportunity to at LB and CB (Braman, Harris, Carmichael). They added a physical specimen to their 3-man OLB rush package in the first round, signed a cheaper version of Demeco Ryans to run the defense while Cushing can go back to playing instinctively and will have a DPOY type season. Jonathan Joseph was a Pro-Bowl corner last year and both Manning and Quinn have Pro-Bowl potential at the safety spots.

                                this is the biggest crock of horsecrap ive read in a while.


                                either you are tj yates, tj yates is your boyfriend, or you like crack rocks







                                TDINT 98-58
                                Passing yards 17,936
                                QB Rating 92.2
                                Stats at NFL.com

                                thats matt schaub. you think t.j yates can do this based on one drive in which he led them to a field goal?


                                tj yates's td- int ratio in college was basically 1-1. theres a reason he was picked in round 5. that reason was the three interceptions he threw in the divisional round game against baltimore, and the 3 other interceptions that were dropped, totalling to 6 outright terrible passes.


                                matt schaub was the nfl passing leader in 2009, passing for nearly 5000 yards.


                                you pull out some stupid youtube video of tj yates throwing a pass and think that hes all of a sudden the next big thing?


                                even last year schaub was passing at a 95 passer rating, above big ben, cutler, vick, eli manning, etc etc etc.






                                please dont ever post some nonsense like that again, claiming you're some hardcore texans fan. schaub is only 31 and is one of the best qb's to ever play this game. get your mouth off tj yates's rooster
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                                • chargers4222
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                                  #17
                                  lol "matt schaub is one of the best qb's ever". pleeeeeeeease please post your picks weekly. please?
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                                  • therushishere
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                                    • 03-21-12
                                    • 713

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by 4TH AND STUPID
                                    schaub is only 31 and is one of the best qb's to ever play this game.
                                    oh man

                                    Have you ever watched a Texans game? Have you ever watched a Broncos game in the mid 90s?

                                    With a developed run game and offensive line you and I could look like all time greats if Kubiak gave us years of his time and devotion.
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                                    • therushishere
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                                      • 03-21-12
                                      • 713

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by 4TH AND STUPID
                                      you pull out some stupid youtube video of tj yates throwing a pass and think that hes all of a sudden the next big thing?
                                      You dont have to agree with me. Many Texans fans dont. But there are a few that do. He was playing from behind on every single interception he threw on the road in the playoffs in Baltimore.

                                      How about this drive to clinch the division on the road in Cinci?

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                                      • 4TH AND STUPID
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                                        • 08-08-09
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by chargers4222
                                        lol "matt schaub is one of the best qb's ever". pleeeeeeeease please post your picks weekly. please?


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                                        199. Gary Cuozzo 62.1 1963-1972 4TM
                                        200. Mark Malone 61.9 1980-1989 3TM
                                        201. Bob Waterfield+ 61.6 1945-1952 ram
                                        202. Eddie LeBaron 61.4 1952-1963 2TM
                                        Randy Wright 61.4 1984-1988 gnb
                                        204. Glenn Dobbs 61.0 1946-1949 2TM
                                        205. George Blanda+ 60.6 1949-1975 4TM
                                        206. Steve Spurrier 60.1 1967-1976 2TM
                                        207. Babe Parilli 59.6 1952-1969 5TM
                                        208. David Whitehurst 59.2 1977-1983 gnb
                                        209. Dan Pastorini 59.1 1971-1983 4TM
                                        210. Steve Ramsey 58.9 1970-1976 2TM
                                        211. Jack Kemp 57.3 1957-1969 3TM
                                        212. Dennis Shaw 56.8 1970-1975 2TM
                                        Tobin Rote 56.8 1950-1966 4TM
                                        214. Scott Brunner 56.3 1980-1985 2TM
                                        215. Jim Ninowski 55.4 1958-1969 4TM
                                        216. Joe Kapp 55.1 1967-1970 2TM
                                        Randy Johnson 55.1 1966-1976 4TM
                                        218. Cotton Davidson 54.9 1954-1968 3TM
                                        219. Jack Concannon 54.8 1964-1975 4TM
                                        Paul Christman 54.8 1945-1950 2TM
                                        Bob Avellini 54.8 1975-1984 chi
                                        222. Jim Finks+ 54.7 1949-1955 pit
                                        223. Zeke Bratkowski 54.3 1954-1971 3TM
                                        224. Joe Pisarcik 53.9 1977-1984 2TM
                                        225. Al Dorow 53.8 1954-1962 4TM
                                        226. Jim Hardy 53.1 1946-1952 3TM
                                        227. Dick Wood 52.9 1962-1966 5TM
                                        228. Mike Phipps 52.6 1970-1981 2TM
                                        229. Adrian Burk 52.2 1950-1956 2TM
                                        Frank Tripucka 52.2 1949-1963 4TM
                                        231. Lamar McHan 50.3 1954-1963 4TM
                                        232. Arnie Herber+ 50.1 1930-1945 2TM
                                        233. Pete Beathard 49.9 1964-1973 4TM
                                        234. Bobby Douglass 48.5 1969-1978 4TM
                                        235. Mike Taliaferro 46.1 1964-1972 3TM








                                        check out #10 douchebag....


                                        theres a reason why i win money and why you follow me around the boards...

                                        because as much as you hate me you want to win money so bad and youre willing to stroke my rooster cause you have no other options
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                                        • therushishere
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 03-21-12
                                          • 713

                                          #21
                                          So Matt Schaub is the 10th best QB of all-time? And Daunte Culpepper is the 14th best QB of all time? And Chad Pennington is better than Dan Marino?

                                          I honestly dont remember you bud. I dont have any bias towards you so any previous opinions I had/have of you obviously stand separate from this- I like to evaluate things on a case by case basis. I'm not sure why you have such unfiltered hatred towards me. Maybe you shouldnt take message boards so seriously. Especially if youre making a case for Schaub being the 10th best QB of all time and being better than Dan Marino. Thats just my 2 cents worth.
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                                          • 4TH AND STUPID
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-08-09
                                            • 2349

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by therushishere
                                            So Matt Schaub is the 10th best QB of all-time? And Daunte Culpepper is the 14th best QB of all time? And Chad Pennington is better than Dan Marino?

                                            I honestly dont remember you bud. I dont have any bias towards you so any previous opinions I had/have of you obviously stand separate from this- I like to evaluate things on a case by case basis. I'm not sure why you have such unfiltered hatred towards me. Maybe you shouldnt take message boards so seriously. Especially if youre making a case for Schaub being the 10th best QB of all time and being better than Dan Marino. Thats just my 2 cents worth.

                                            i have no hate toward you whatsoever. i was talking to chargers 4422, a loser who wishes he was me and follows me round the board praying i post a losing pick..



                                            with regards to your post, i was simply talking sports... i think comparing a rookie who hardly did anything in the ncaa with a guy who almost passed for 5000 yards in an nfl season is rediculous, based on a couple of youtube videos. thats why i came at you hard.



                                            as for my post of all-time nfl qb ratings--- no it doesnt PROVE that schaub is one of the best quarterbacks but it certainly makes a good case!!

                                            look at the other guys in the list of the top 10. do they all have something in common? yes they do, they are all pretty damn good, or were at one point in their career.



                                            having said that, at the age of 31, for you to say that schaub going down again would be "the best thing to happen to this team" deserves a harsh response, especially conisdering you claim to know the texans.
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                                            • chargers4222
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-16-10
                                              • 4702

                                              #23
                                              so, just to clear this up, you will be posting your picks throughout the season correct?
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                                              • therushishere
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 03-21-12
                                                • 713

                                                #24


                                                Enjoy
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                                                • k13
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 07-16-10
                                                  • 18104

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by BALISTIK
                                                  Seriously, why do you think they should be that high? I think they are top 4 or 5 team this year!
                                                  That's not what I "think", that's the number at Pinnacle Sports.
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                                                  • easyliving
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 06-25-12
                                                    • 8876

                                                    #26
                                                    I think the odds are reasonable. Considering last season there are 4 teams that stand out in the AFC. Of course the Patriots are the clear cut favorites followed by Steelers and Ravens and the Texans a close 4th. However I don't think the Texans D will be as dominant and I'm not sure if Arian Foster can repeat his performance from last year.
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                                                    • therushishere
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 03-21-12
                                                      • 713

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by easyliving
                                                      Of course the Patriots are the clear cut favorites followed by Steelers and Ravens and the Texans a close 4th. However I don't think the Texans D will be as dominant and I'm not sure if Arian Foster can repeat his performance from last year.
                                                      Unfortunately the opposite is true.

                                                      The run game and defense is the strength. They undoubtedly have the best 1-2 punch at RB in the NFL as well as a defense with an elite list of players on the front line along with the shelves stocked and ready to produce in the backline in case of injury.

                                                      Not sure if Arian can repeat his performance from last year? No offense, but at this rate, by the time you catch on hell be retired and engraved in Canton. By the numbers, his performance actually decreased from the year before to last due to Tate becoming a larger part of the offense. They had two 1,000 yard rushers. Let that sink in for a minute. 2 of them. Most of the league would be happy if they somehow found one. But they had two.

                                                      Antonio Smith has been a Pro-Bowler before, JJ Watt might be the best 3-4 end of his time, Barwin would have had close to 20 sacks had he been playing weak-side rushing LB the whole year before Mario went down, Cushing might be the best all-around ILB in the game, Joseph is a top 3 corner in this league, and Manning and Quinn both have Pro-Bowl potential (and Manning will get there this year).

                                                      If theres anything to be concerned about its the passing game. Can Schaub hang with the big boys come playoff time? Can Yates continue to build on his success as a rookie? How many games will Andre Johnson and Kevin Walter play? There isnt a single wideout behing them with an NFL catch. These are the concerns at the core of this team. Not the defense and run game.
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                                                      • 4TH AND STUPID
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-08-09
                                                        • 2349

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by chargers4222
                                                        so, just to clear this up, you will be posting your picks throughout the season correct?

                                                        are you still paying your gambling debts with welfare money?
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                                                        • chargers4222
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-16-10
                                                          • 4702

                                                          #29
                                                          sure, whatever helps you sleep at night. as long as your promise to keep a thread with your picks
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