Saints +1 against the Redskins

[JRS21386]

The Skins don't play cover two. Much easier to run against the cover 2 defense. Rogers and Smoot will play bump and run, and it allows the safties to read and react to a run/pass much quicker.

This is a matter of opinion... Tampa 2 Defense actually tightens up the safeties and positions the appropriate personnel to be just as effective on run as pass... TB has a good pass and run defense.. trust me...

[element1286]

This is a matter of opinion... Tampa 2 Defense actually tightens up the safeties and positions the appropriate personnel to be just as effective on run as pass... TB has a good pass and run defense.. trust me...

I don't see how that is possible when the safties are always 15-20 yards off the line of scrimmage in the base defense. If a team really wants to run the ball against a cover 2 they can.

[JRS21386]

Its not a bad look... It works they're fast... Trust me.. Not just anyone can be in the Tampa 2 Defense... See how the safeties are cheated up? They have to be quick to adjust to a pass situation vs a run... but if it didnt work they woulnt have patented it.. lol

[element1286]

Last 6 years. Tampa against the run and the pass.

2002: Run 5th, Pass 1
2003: Run 13th, Pass 3
2004: Run 19th, Pass 1
2005: Run 6th, Pass 6
2006: Run 17th, Pass 19
2007: Run 17th, Pass 1

There defense is built on stopping the pass.

[JRS21386]

Last 6 years. Tampa against the run and the pass.

2002: Run 5th, Pass 1
2003: Run 13th, Pass 3
2004: Run 19th, Pass 1
2005: Run 6th, Pass 6
2006: Run 17th, Pass 19
2007: Run 17th, Pass 1

There defense is built on stopping the pass.

Your right, thats their strength no doubt... But see the 2 years they were ranked 5 and 6? That was still in the Tampa 2.. The setback years could be from injuries or simply not having the right personnel... The Colts are a good example of a cover defense that did a great job of plugging up the run last seaon..

[element1286]

Your right, thats their strength no doubt... But see the 2 years they were ranked 5 and 6? That was still in the Tampa 2.. The setback years could be from injuries or simply not having the right personnel... The Colts are a good example of a cover defense that did a great job of plugging up the run last seaon..

I am not saying it is impossible to stop the run playing cover 2, but just that if a team really wants to run on a cover 2 defense, and is able to commit to it, they will be successful. It is the same deal against a zone blitz scheme. If a team really wants to spread out a zone blitz defense, ie the Steelers, and are able to commit to it it they will be successful.

[JRS21386]

I am not saying it is impossible to stop the run playing cover 2, but just that if a team really wants to run on a cover 2 defense, and is able to commit to it, they will be successful. It is the same deal against a zone blitz scheme. If a team really wants to spread out a zone blitz defense, ie the Steelers, and are able to commit to it it they will be successful.

I gotcha... Im not tryin to doubt you im just sayin TB bring a new look that most teams havent ever seen.. So you're right you would need an experienced running game to put up yards agasinst em but thats not uncommon in the NFL

[element1286]

Colts against he run and pass since Dungy has been there.

2002: Run 20th, Pass 2nd
2003: Run 20th, Pass 5th
2004: Run 24th, Pass 28th
2005: Run 16th, Pass 15th
2006: Run 32th, Pass 2nd
2007: Run 15th, Pass 2nd

Trend looks like it holds true for the Colts as well.

[JRS21386]

Colts against he run and pass since Dungy has been there.

2002: Run 20th, Pass 2nd
2003: Run 20th, Pass 5th
2004: Run 24th, Pass 28th
2005: Run 16th, Pass 15th
2006: Run 32th, Pass 2nd
2007: Run 15th, Pass 2nd

Trend looks like it holds true for the Colts as well.

So if there is no cover defense that can stop a run, why do people run a zone? If a running game is what you HAVE to establish to win games..

[element1286]

So if there is no cover defense that can stop a run, why do people run a zone? If a running game is what you HAVE to establish to win games..

There are a lot of factors that make it tough to commit to the run, ie not controlling the line of scrimmage, being down two or more scores, quarterback ineffectiveness, and not converting on third down.

But if a team can commit to the running game, and can overcome those factors they can score points on a cover two defense.

[JRS21386]

There are a lot of factors that make it tough to commit to the run, ie not controlling the line of scrimmage, being down two or more scores, quarterback ineffectiveness, and not converting on third down.

But if a team can commit to the running game, and can overcome those factors they can score points on a cover two defense.

Yeah... I dont know my mind is blank..

[ZBOIZ]

The Skins don't play cover two. Much easier to run against the cover 2 defense. Rogers and Smoot will play bump and run, and it allows the safties to read and react to a run/pass much quicker.

Great! I'm playing this play even harder because Brees pass for more yards on teams that don't play cover two! This is amazing! Thanks for the Info! Washington best bet is to zone the Saints! We have to much coming at you for man to man. Shockey, Bush, Colston, Henderson, Patten, ......and this list goes on!

[supershark]

The Skins don't play cover two. Much easier to run against the cover 2 defense. Rogers and Smoot will play bump and run, and it allows the safties to read and react to a run/pass much quicker.

smoot sucks(well not really but hes always been overrated) and rogers is coming off an ACL and MCL surgeries didnt look too hot last week either.

[Bigcrank23]

Remember smoot wont be starting, only started because Springs was inactive. Dont have to worry about Colston now either.

[ZBOIZ]

Remember smoot wont be starting, only started because Springs was inactive. Dont have to worry about Colston now either.

Meachem will come in a contribute well while Colston is out.

[etothep]

The line is too good to be true.

Skins will win and put some of these posters on suicide watch a la the browns/bengals game last year

When it looks too good to be true, it usually is.

[Bigcrank23]

Game wasnt even as close as the score was

Skins Saints
1st dwns 24 15
tot. yrds 455 250
T.O.P. 34:14 25:46
T overs 1 3

Redskins could have walked away with this game if they could have scored in the red zone in the 1st half. Offense looked much improved from week 1, but the giants D is much stonger than the saints. Anyways cheers to the skins