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  • t-wizzle
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    • 12-18-09
    • 38099

    #1
    Why are the Vikings a favorite at Arrowhead?
    This line is a joke. Minnesota sucks. Kansas City looks like crap too and they have been killed by injuries but there is no way that the Vikings deserve to be a fave, albeit 1 point, in this spot.

    Chiefs pick up their first win of the year and the Vikes move to 0-4. Book it.
  • chopperocker
    SBR MVP
    • 08-16-09
    • 1784

    #2
    im not selling anything, but................... buyer beware!!!

    Road Favs of -1 last 5yrs -
    39-19 SU
    39-18-1 ATS
    30-27-1 O/U

    i had KAN +14.5 vs SDG last sunday so im not a hater. i have no confident opinion yet, but the trend does not favor them. numbers might be different on Road Favs of -1 vs. Non-Conference opponent. i will post back when i got them done.
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    • loopydude11
      SBR MVP
      • 12-23-09
      • 1702

      #3
      Chiefs gave up over 40 points in 2 straight weeks to start the year. they played the slow starter chargers tough but so did the Vikes in SD, I think Peterson will have a big game as Matthews did yesterday and the Vikings win
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      • BettingWizard
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        • 11-28-09
        • 6522

        #4
        just do a 2nd half bet on chiefs
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        • thebestthereis
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          • 03-01-09
          • 11459

          #5
          gonna wait for the mcnabb passes into the ground prop. i am guessing it will be around 12 or 13 and i am pounding over.
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          • bobbyk1133
            SBR MVP
            • 08-05-10
            • 2245

            #6
            AP going up against what has been a horrible run D so far....
            That's the biggest mismatch in the game......on paper.

            KC is also decimated with key injuries and Arrowhead doesn't have the same intimidating factor that it used to.
            Cassel is no better than Mcnabb and McCluster isn't the answer in the running game.

            MIN has actually played really well in the 1st half of all their games against quality opponents. KC hasn't looked good at all except last week in the 2nd half against a lackadaisical SD team.
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            • BettingWizard
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              • 11-28-09
              • 6522

              #7
              why not under 40? Both teams playcalling has been terrible the past 2 weeks
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              • NardVa
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                • 10-02-07
                • 8325

                #8
                The Vikings have collapsed in the 2nd half 3 weeks in a row in part to the defense not getting stops and the offense not being able to put a drive together. If the Vikings can get a first half lead they should be safe against against a comeback because KC has Cassell at QB instead of Rivers, Freeman or Stafford. Win less teams have one thing in common they find ways to lose but both teams are win less so who knows.
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                • chopperocker
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-16-09
                  • 1784

                  #9
                  Originally posted by loopydude11
                  Chiefs gave up over 40 points in 2 straight weeks to start the year. they played the slow starter chargers tough but so did the Vikes in SD, I think Peterson will have a big game as Matthews did yesterday and the Vikings win
                  KAN looked bad the first 2 weeks(teams going 0-4 SU in Pre-Season are 3-11 ATS in week 1 since '06) against teams they are less familiar with(facing BUF every 3yrs avg./facing DET every 4 yrs. avg.) but, they played strong against SDG who they face twice per year(Road Dogs of +10 or more facing Divisional opponent going back to the beginning of '06 season are now 12-50 SU 42-19-1 ATS). now they face a less familiar opponent again in MIN. this role does not favor KAN nor does the point spread trends, but there is a reason they play the game.
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                  • bobbyk1133
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-05-10
                    • 2245

                    #10
                    Originally posted by chopperocker
                    , they played strong against SDG who they face [B]twice per year
                    Did you watch this game? SD completely dominated them in the 1st half. I wouldn't call garbage time yards/points against a defense that let up a "strong game".
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                    • chopperocker
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-16-09
                      • 1784

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bobbyk1133
                      Did you watch this game? SD completely dominated them in the 1st half. I wouldn't call garbage time yards/points against a defense that let up a "strong game".
                      it is true that SDG did have 123yrds more on offense, 1 more forced fumble against, 1 more interception against, 1 more sack against and were outscored by 7pts in the 4th but man did they dominate KAN!!!

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                      • chopperocker
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-16-09
                        • 1784

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bobbyk1133
                        Did you watch this game? SD completely dominated them in the 1st half. I wouldn't call garbage time yards/points against a defense that let up a "strong game".
                        they were trailing by 10 when they scored a TD with 5:03 left on the clock. the game was clearly up for grabs yet. those are not garbage points. garbage points are when a team is trailing by 20pts and there is 1:23 left in the game.
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                        • BigDan
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                          • 04-28-11
                          • 5104

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BettingWizard
                          why not under 40? Both teams playcalling has been terrible the past 2 weeks


                          honestly this seems the most logical play on this gm. of coarse in the new nfl logical unders are a scary proposition, to me anyway..

                          would think the only way they sniff this number is with special teams plays and turnovers leading directly to points because as you said the playcalling and overall offensive play from both sides has been horrid. Hailey should have never brought Wiess in last season because now with him gone it shows what a utter moron this guy is. I mean he got the job based off being the Ocord on a team with Warner and Fitz, doesnt take rocket science to call plays with the group he had in zona.

                          Far as minny goes i havnt seen enough of their gms to know how the playcalling has been but it cant be easy calling plays when you got a qb that skipped his mid 30s and turned 50 in front of our eyes. Id imagine the only play to call is AP right, AP left.
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                          • bobbyk1133
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-05-10
                            • 2245

                            #14
                            Originally posted by chopperocker
                            they were trailing by 10 when they scored a TD with 5:03 left on the clock. the game was clearly up for grabs yet. those are not garbage points. garbage points are when a team is trailing by 20pts and there is 1:23 left in the game.
                            SD held KC without a 1st down in the 1st half.

                            If you think KC had a strong game more power to you. I'm done here.
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                            • BigDan
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                              • 04-28-11
                              • 5104

                              #15
                              Originally posted by thebestthereis
                              gonna wait for the mcnabb passes into the ground prop. i am guessing it will be around 12 or 13 and i am pounding over.

                              nice....
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                              • No coincidences
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 01-18-10
                                • 76300

                                #16
                                Originally posted by thebestthereis
                                gonna wait for the mcnabb passes into the ground prop. i am guessing it will be around 12 or 13 and i am pounding over.
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                                • t-wizzle
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                                  • 12-18-09
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                                  #17
                                  What's hilarious about this matchup is that the public will be on the Vikings for no other reason than that they think the Chiefs stink.
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                                  • t-wizzle
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                                    • 12-18-09
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                                    #18
                                    So what's everyone think here? Lot of money on the vikes has driven the ML up to +150 for KC. I think we're getting a great number on KC but it probably wasn't just public money that pushed this number up.
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                                    • Allure
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                                      • 08-18-10
                                      • 7606

                                      #19
                                      Vikes win, KC covers. How about that?
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                                      • t-wizzle
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                                        • 12-18-09
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Allure
                                        Vikes win, KC covers. How about that?
                                        That'd be a pretty unlikely scenario. Either you like the vikes to cover or KC to win.
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                                        • irlandais_noir
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 12-02-10
                                          • 812

                                          #21
                                          Got vikes early - AP alone is enough to back them here
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                                          • Allure
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                                            • 08-18-10
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                                            #22
                                            Well my money is on KC in this spot. Not that I really like them, but Minnesota played fairly well against San Diego, Tampa Bay and the nasty Lions, yet they are just a 3 point favorite against a team who's getting blown out for almost every game.

                                            KC showed some signs of life against the Chargers, why not carry the momentum to their home game against the Vikes, who ain't anything special either.

                                            But I agree, if you take KC plus points you have to expect them to win, as it's an unlikely scenario that Vikes win but KC covers.
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                                            • t-wizzle
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                                              • 12-18-09
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                                              #23
                                              Late money on the Chiefs.
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                                              • teaserpleaser
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                                                • 08-14-08
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                                                #24
                                                On vikes
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                                                • deeshen13
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                                                  • 05-31-11
                                                  • 92

                                                  #25
                                                  vikes win by at least 14
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                                                  • BookiesBernanke
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 12-09-10
                                                    • 849

                                                    #26
                                                    Chiefs are the worst team in the league. Vikings are the worst 2nd half team in the league.
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                                                    • Demonata
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                                                      • 07-12-11
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                                      This line is a joke. Minnesota sucks. Kansas City looks like crap too and they have been killed by injuries but there is no way that the Vikings deserve to be a fave, albeit 1 point, in this spot. Chiefs pick up their first win of the year and the Vikes move to 0-4. Book it.
                                                      They are favored because they are better than the Chiefs in every category.
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                                                      • Demonata
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                                                        • 07-12-11
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                                                        #28
                                                        So far so good. Good pass Donovan. Go Vikings.
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                                                        • loopydude11
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-23-09
                                                          • 1702

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Demonata

                                                          They are favored because they are better than the Chiefs in every category.
                                                          this. Go Vikes!!
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                                                          • Demonata
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                                                            • 07-12-11
                                                            • 25829

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by loopydude11
                                                            this. Go Vikes!!
                                                            Ya man I don't even see why people think the Vikes wont win today.lol.
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                                                            • numismatist
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                                                              • 10-02-11
                                                              • 2192

                                                              #31
                                                              Its still early but that Chiefs D STIIIIIIIINKS.
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                                                              • Allure
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                                                                • 08-18-10
                                                                • 7606

                                                                #32
                                                                Kansas sucks, period.

                                                                Played it, got trapped.
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                                                                • numismatist
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                                                                  • 10-02-11
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  4 AND 3 and they get it. BRUTAL.
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                                                                  • Allure
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                                                                    • 08-18-10
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    They can't even stop McFag, come on.
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                                                                    • numismatist
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                                                                      • 10-02-11
                                                                      • 2192

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Yeah, the Chiefs are an embarassment to me as a fan and a disappointment to me as a bettor. But, its still early. Its painful to watch their "defense".
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