Falcons Brass on Crack?

[Stevedore]

Five picks for J. Jones? Are you serious? Wow.. This is Herschel Walker deal all over again. Mike Holmgren of Cleveland should be brought up on charges!

I guess the Falcons plan on beating teams 34-31 next season as they all but gave up any chance to shore up their maligned secondary via the draft for the next two years.

[LLXC]

Gave up a ton...wth...

[BigDan]

i guess the falcon brass smarter than me but last i saw offense wasnt the problem with this team...with a aging Bal team and all those nice new picks cle has the next two years they might just be relevant at some point again..

[McBa1n]

Hey, when there is a player that can't catch a pass, ala Jenkins or Roddy (both suck ballsack, sorry), you gotta give up almost a Herschel Walker amount. Just sayin. Atlanta just f'd themselves HUGE HUGE HUGE by taking Julio Jones. The Browns scooped up DICKTONS of picks over a WR that cannot catch the football! Atlanta over the past 3-5 years are PLAGUED by WRS that cannot catch the football, yet, they gave up a king's ransom for, IMO, (and I've seen him play enough to say this), A SUPER physical Troy Williamson. YOU DO NOT f off a draft unless you get a "Calvin Johnson". WOW. I'm just shocked. If Atlanta got the kid from Georgia, I understand, but JULIO COULD BE the laziest WR I've ever seen with that kind of ability.WOW.

[FindTheLock]

Call the police, the Falcons just got robbed...When do you think Holmgren will get out on good behavior? lol He should be eligible for parole after 3 years. He just buried the falcons.

[GunShard]

I think they were after A.J. Green. It's reasonable on Green but on Jones is insane.

[falconticket]

I was under the impression we were supposed to be shoring up the defense this year. I disagree that White and Jenkins suk. Are offense has not been the problem. I hope somebody knows wtf they are doing.

[umdterps]

Matt Ryan is not complaining

[C-Gold]

Atlanta has a good enough offense/system in place. I guess Atlanta is taking the longer term view of putting good WRs around Matt Ryan for the long term because he'll be a very good but never elite QB.

The obvious move is for Atlanta to shore up the defense ( secondary in particular) and add depth but they are doing this for the longer term.

[Blazermaniac]

The 1st rounder of next year is a little too much...maybe a 2nd or 3rd would be better But J Jones is a BEAST. Don't be surprise if he's offense rookie of the year. Very physical at the line. Has great speed. You will see a lot of resembles in Andre Johnson. So I can see why they pulled the trigger. Between him and Green....I'll take the more physical one.

[slacker00]

They overpaid, but bringing up the Herschel Walker deal is just silly. To move up that far in the draft takes a lot of picks.

[Stevedore]

They overpaid, but bringing up the Herschel Walker deal is just silly. To move up that far in the draft takes a lot of picks.

The point is, they gave up 5 picks to get Jones. How many picks did Dallas get for Walker, 7? Not that far off

[St8Ca$homie]

They gave up too much but your ALWAYS going to over pay for elite talent. Or in this case projected talent. I really like J.J. but that is too much even for me and im all about bringing in elite talent. I wish the Pats did it a lil more. I would have no n/p giving up two # 1's , this years and next years. Id prolly throw a 3rd , but thats it. They do need help in the secondary but after giving D.R. all that $ their not cutting bait w/ him , they owe him to much still. And i really like Grimes , think hes very underrated. I think one could argue that theres a lack of depth there as well. Hey they made their pick , they obviously had plenty of time to think about it. That O will roll next year.

[knelson]

Pretty interesting...Will be interesting to see how it turns out

[slacker00]

The point is, they gave up 5 picks to get Jones. How many picks did Dallas get for Walker, 7? Not that far off

You do realize that #1 picks are worth a LOT more than later round picks, right?

I did the points math on this in the Holmgren is a master thief thread:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/nfl-handicapping/1055693-holmgren-master-thief.html#post9810232

In the Walker trade, Minny gave up 1st(21) & 2nd(47) in 1990, 1st(12) & 2nd(38) in 1991, 2nd(37) & 3rd(71) in 1992 and 1st(13) in 1993. Let's see how that breaks down in points according to the standard chart:

http://www.sportznutz.com/nfl/draft/draft_point_value_chart.htm

800+430+1200+520+530+235+1150=4865 points, which is over 3,000 points more than Atlanta gave up for Julio Jones.

[dmiles1021]

you know what mean i was thinkin the same thing its one of those things that happen and you just have to look at it ya know?

[CaptainPrice]

yes alL on cRacK! EveRyONe oF THeM!!
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[iwantcougars]

talent wise greg little can be very close to JJ on the nfl