with the weather and not scoring more than 3 pts last week...can webb get anything done? he can run like vick i've seen video's and will post if u guys want....but we saw what the bears defense did to vick....so will weather gives vikings a shot?...plus what about AP AD???? we know Cutler is gna play like shit...he cannot pass for his life in this weather....what are ur guys thoughts?
Do the Vikings have any shot in hell 2nite?
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FR3SH like UgHHSBR MVP
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#1Do the Vikings have any shot in hell 2nite?Tags: None -
FR3SH like UgHHSBR MVP
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BluedragonSBR MVP
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#3Vikings TT is 12.5. That is worth a look lolComment -
FR3SH like UgHHSBR MVP
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#4lol but we've nevr seen this guy play a full game....and do u really trust cutler to throw in this weather??? their oline cannot even block for shit. UNDER might be the best bet.Comment -
MaxlockRestricted User
- 11-09-10
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#5I posted this same analysis on my thread but here it is for you guys who don't visit that thread.
Bears-Vikings Analysis- PICK CHICAGO -8
First things first the weather report in this game calls for game time temperatures right around 25 degrees with winds at about 15 mph. (15 mph is not enough to disrupt the passing game) Snow accumulation between 2-4 inches during the day and 1-3 inches at night. Generally, this would favor the Bears, but I don’t believe this years version of the Chicago Bears is the almighty cold weather team that we’re use to seeing in Chicago. The one factor that does help them is they did play in the cold and snow last week so they should have no surprises this time around, while the Vikings have routinely played in the dome.
The first meeting between these two teams resulted in a 27-13 win @ Chicago. Now there were a few key differences in that game. Foremost, Brett Favre was under center and he did not have Sydney Rice to throw to. It’s important to note that Favre had a horrible day completing 18 of 31 passes for 170 yards, 1 TD, 3 INT and 44.5 QB rating. Now with 5th round rookie Job Webb set to make his start I think things could get very ugly for him. Having played last week in the snow against the Pats, this should give the advantage to the Bears as they should know what to expect now in terms of traction and getting use to the snowy condition that this game will present. Last week, Tom Brady torched the Bears because he simple had ample time in the pocket to deliver his passes. The Bears generally play a cover 2 defense and allow the front four on the defensive line to bring the pressure. The cover 2 does a good job of taking away the deep passes with safety help over the top. It limits the opponent to small underneath gains and allows the defense to swarm to the ball. DE Julius Peppers usually brings his A game for a nationally televised event and I expect nothing less from him today. The Bears are still fighting for the #2 spot in the NFC so I expect them to come out and avenge last weeks bitter lose. With Joe Webb making his first start of the season the Vikings will run the ball early and often with Adrian Peterson. Joe Webb has the resume to be a good runner like Vick, but a balky hamstring that will limit his ability to run with the combination of the Bears defense and the weather i really think Webb's ability to run will be limited. Not to mention the Bears stopped Vick in his tracks when he tried scrambling. The last times these two teams faced each other Peterson only had 51 yards on 17 carries which equates to a 3.0 average. A lot of those yards were on one 20 yard carry. The Bears rank 5th in the league giving up 3.7 yards per rush. They are tied for first in the league in creating fumbles against a rusher. With traction and holding on to the ball playing into this game I see the Bears creating a few turnover whether it’s forced by fumble or interception. If the Bears can hold Peterson to minimal gains and keep Webb in third and longs the stats point to the Bears having success as they are tied for 5th defensively in third down completion. Only 35% of third down are completed against the Bears defense.
On the Chicago offensive side of the ball Cutler and the Bears offense will have to employ a well balanced offensive attack. They have done this in recent games and this has led to their recent success. Cutler played relatively well the last time they two teams played each other. Cutler went 22 of 35 for 237, 1 sack, 3 TDs 2 Ints and 87.4 passer rating.
Some of you may think well if Matt Flynn can play well as a back up why can’t Joe Webb. As I wrote in a previous article good teams step up and play 110% with their starting QB out, especially in crucial time as the Pack are fighting for the playoffs. So it doesn’t surprise me that the Packers defense showed up yesterday, as they have all year. The reality for the Vikings is that Webb was a third stringer prior to this game who has never played a game in snowy conditions such as today. I don’t think the Vikings defense will step up and play the hero role as much because their season is all but over. If they get behind in this game by 2 TDs then they’ll really roll over. Many players on both sides have said they are not excited about playing this game on the frozen field. At least the Bears have something to play for as they are fighting with Phily for a first round bye with the #2 spot in the NFC. I really expect the Bears to come out and avenge their last week lose. Things will get tough for Job Webb early and often as he’ll struggle in his first start. I'm predicting a 24-10 victory.
Take the Bears -8, if your book has this game at -7.5 then I would suggest buying the half point to make it 7.Comment -
BluedragonSBR MVP
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#6last home game for Vikes and Bears need this so I guess the question is...is it going to be like a soccer game where both teams come out playing TO NOT LOSE or is one of them going to step up and TRY AND WIN. There is a big difference there. Both teams want to win but more so, both teams DONT WANT TO LOSEComment -
FR3SH like UgHHSBR MVP
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#7i agree w/ ur write up in a sense but not totally...this kid webb looks like he was just born an athelete and in weather like this it will benefit his game...he'll b alble to run+ they have ap...what is chi gonna do? cutlers gonna throw picks if they even try....forte cant run that good...minn d is gna have to step up if they want a shot...2nd of all theres no way this game goes over the 33 total....lowest for mnf in yrs and every1 will be on the over....
3rd is chi loses this week and next week the packers play nyg next week and get rodgers back, if they can win that game theyd face chi in the last game of the season to set up who makes the playoffs....situation is perfect....
I THINK right now im leaning towards taking VIKES +9.Comment -
legendmatt34SBR Wise Guy
- 03-15-09
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#8The line is way off. Take the vikes.. Cutler is a big baby.. doesnt like the cold..Comment -
thebertshowSBR Wise Guy
- 08-30-07
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#9I am predicting the Vikings win outrightComment -
kernsscaSBR Sharp
- 07-31-10
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#10No way vikings win, I do feel the under is the best bet here, both teams will want to keep it on the ground and hope to wear out the others Defense. I do think the bears will pull away in the end, in a game that will see mostly FGs. Bears 19 Minn 6Comment -
FR3SH like UgHHSBR MVP
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#11MINN will score more than 7 pts. GARAUNTEED.Comment -
nah0228SBR Sharp
- 04-20-10
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#12I like the under for tonightComment -
aman86SBR MVP
- 08-29-09
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#13vikings should cover just like last night and the over is a near lock, look what happened last night after the pack just scored 3 the week before, now they get a decent athlete at qb are we kidding this is a major upgrade, dont forget special teams with all the weapons on both sidesComment -
firehoytSBR MVP
- 12-02-10
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#14Joe Webb's college career was based on his scrambling ability, I know because I went to alot of his games. He's a good QB but he's not used to this kind of weather. I look for him to keep it close but the Bears should win SU. I'm taking the Vikings in a teaser +14.5 and the under on 40 points. Hopefully this will make up for Dallas screwing me yesterday on the spread.Comment -
Adr3nalin3 Ru5hSBR Sharp
- 08-14-10
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#15Bears halftime.... just sit and watch them money pile up!!!Comment -
cobracommanderSBR High Roller
- 07-18-10
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#16Not a chance. Tease the Bears and the over. It's guaranteed to hit because I won't be able to bet it. My bank transfer isn't available yet. I'm never wrong when I miss a bet due to these funding issues.Comment -
fixxerSBR MVP
- 09-13-05
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#17CHI will win.....I cannot see this Vikes to score even more than 10 pts....Comment -
TonyPSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-20-09
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#18just like ADR said sit and watch then make a 2h betComment -
TonyPSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-20-09
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#19favre might play tonightComment -
Mr. JonesSBR Wise Guy
- 09-02-05
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#20In conditions such as you'll have tonight, it is difficult to get any leverage to mount a pass rush. Just a thought to factor in. I'm still undecided here for now.Comment -
shade3599SBR Sharp
- 11-02-08
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#21with the snow they are supposed to get i like the under too. wont be too many scoresComment -
Dirty Bay PlayerSBR Wise Guy
- 12-05-09
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#22The part that I disagree with is that there is some "experience" to be gleaned from playing in bad weather.
I've played golf in the rain many times. I'm no better at playing golf in the rain than I was the first time I ever did it. Your grips get slick and start sliding around, and you make mistakes you don't usually make.
The idea that a QB gets used to a slick ball is just absurd. I don't think the snow is going to disadvantage a QB just for the mere fact that he's never played in it.
I'd see snow hurting Cutler in particular. A guy who likes to force passes into coverage, and just can't seem to help himself - good luck.Comment -
BluedragonSBR MVP
- 08-30-10
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#23Y'all are crazy on the under. Teased to 26 is crazy low. Don't forget that there are 4 full q's being played tonight. I like Vikings TT OV 12.5 for sure. I think they manage 2 TD's, if not then 1 plus the 2 field goals...that's def worth a playComment
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