I personally guarantee a Vikings victory tomorrow.

[DennisGreen]

I wouldn't call Favre throwing a pass up for grabs in a big game only to have it intercepted "luck". More like the surest thing around next to death and taxes.

[MR.HARRYtheHAT]

Favre had to have an injection to lubricate his ankle just the other day. this isn't a question of which team has improved most since last year, but rather which team has regressed most?

[DennisGreen]

Farve IS better than Brees. Farve is a proven winner. He has the best stats of all time. Brees is just the product of the media and ref bias.

Yeah Brees just had the highest QB rating and the most TD's last season but that was definitely due to media hype and ref bias right

[docvinny]

don't see vikings winning but I could see them covering

[aman86]

Love my saints play even more now I know why we were only 5.5 pt favs bc ppl like u keep the line down thinking thus is a rematch of last years game... Not even close let it go obviously many are bitter from that game still.

[CHAZ]

6 points is to much to give up....

Taking the Vikings though doesn't make sense to me either. Brett Favre has been to camp a few days before the last game of preseason, had surgery on his ankle w/ injections the other day. Rice, Vikings last years leading wr is out and Percy Harvin hasnt been healthy with his migraine. Chester Taylor is gone, who was a great third down passing back. There defense will keep them in it but I doubt the offense can keep up with the Saints.

[JDUB07]

When I saw how you spelled Favre's name I knew I couldn't believe anything else you said.

[stocker08]

You cannot make a guarantee like that.

However, I will be playing the money line on this one.

[Bswitz32]

This is a tough one to decide a side on. Im thinking Im going with the total. Havent decided over or under yet but leaning this direction..

BOL

[BigDofBA]

Farve IS better than Brees. Farve is a proven winner. He has the best stats of all time. Brees is just the product of the media and ref bias.

You can't even spell Favre's name correctly. LOL.

Brees has as many rings as "Farve". Bree beat Favre head to head last year.

[xxxvince]

the whole minnesota is purple today.. PURPLE AND GOLD FOR GLORY!

[DeeVeeOSs]

This "guarantee" crap is twisted.
This calling people 'idiots' for picking opposite you, is twisted.

I knew from the title that I'd find some quality arguments in this thread however.

I have about 4-5 points FOR the Saints.

I've got 1 point FOR the Vikes.


Lots of people like the Vikes, but with no justification.
I assume if they had them, they'd state them.

An equal amount of people liked the Saints, but they came with arguments.
Like ankle injections.
Home game opener.
Last year's champs.
No more 2nd 3rd 4th stringer matchups, Saints Mainline IFE. <--- that's my contribution
And a reputable source says they cover no sweat.


Mainly I'd like to thank you though.
You drew out some crushing arguments against MIN
and I hardly saw a peep against NO even with all the MIN supporters.

So let me stand up for what I see then.

We have to talk about one thing. Practicality

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Defense:
MIN 7th vs N.O. 28th

This is where you argue MIN's threat.
Their defense combined with N.O.'s offense makes for an apple orange game.

We know that MIN will be tested to the max but their defense should holdish.
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Offense:
N.O 2nd vs MIN 21st

In other words, from the LITTLE information we have,
we can see that these apples and oranges even out very nicely.
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I can understand where people are saying, "Saints may win, but don't count on the cover."
They're on the money.

But this is assuming EQUAL HEALTH.
I don't get the impression that Favre will necessarily come out swinging for certain.
It's a good bet Saints will, due to home-opener crowd hype adrenaline.
Even knowing they're facing Favre should prove a plus for N.O.

But I think the point here, FINAL point, that needs to be looked at, is actually the translation:

MINNESOTA'S DEFENSE, THEIR MAIN STRENGTH, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FAVRE'S PERFORMANCE.
If they shut down N.O. offense, which they might be in a position to do, then MIN can cover spread and maybe even win.

And when we look at how incredibly slack N.O. defense is, frankly, we don't need a Favre that's 100% anyway; a dependable Saints D that functions at 10% will do just fine for MIN offense.


It's actually the Saints that have no cover. Their offense HAS to be 100% and nothing else matters here.

MIN can get away with a good D an average Favre.
But N.O. has to bring the ruckus.

Know what? I think the Saints bring it.
I know a little about medicine and I know that:
a) facing Favre
b) playing a home-opener
c) knowing you can do it because of last year's super-bowl coaching.

...is a perfect adrenaline cocktail mixed with advantageous psychological mandates.

I digress. .

[chilidog]

You do know that a personal guarantee basically means that if your bet loses, you will personally refund the money that people lost by betting your pick, don't you?

[Baxter Man13]

+200 odds right now. And they are clearly the better team. Better quarterback, better running back, better everything. Just look back to last year when they played in the conference championship game. Vikings were the superior team. If it wasn't for luck (turnovers) and the NFL rigging the game in order to help out the economy in a struggling city, Minnesota wins that game by 21+. Don't be fooled by the Saints being 6 point favorites. That is a dumb play. Minnesota has this in the bag.

Hard to back up this banged up vikings team with Favre taking how many snaps in pre season? none....Saints is the safer play IMO

[timdogs17]

Fante throws 2 int and gets hurt!

[midoriwilleatyou]

i think this will be a close game.. hopefully vikings will win

[POTVINSUX]

No Sidney Rice, Vikings best reciever. Percey Harvin hurting, but will play and Favre's ankle is hurting.

[falconticket]

Now that I have put my cash on the vikes, if I somehow lose, how do you intend to pay up. I have PayPal , or cash is fine. Let me know after the game.

[Soxsfan9]

this will not be a high scoring game

AGREED!!!

[linedrivr]

my predicted final score: Vikings 23 - 20

[jcadwell]

you are retarded... saints will shit on the vikings tonight. favre can't have career years two years in a row...

[nysmoneyman]

Thursday, September 9, 2010 8:30 PM EST

Minnesota Vikings (0-0) at New Orleans Saints (0-0)
Louisiana Superdome New Orleans, Louisiana

Expect tonight’s Monday night battle to be a rerun of last year’s 31-28 New Orleans overtime playoff victory over Minnesota. Look for Brees to outshine old man Favre tonight in the Superdome. Take the top-ranked offense in the league with home field advantage to cover the spread.

johnny guild

[Kobe]

Did everyone in this topic completely forget about the best running back in the league? Adrian Peterson is gonna run all over these guys. Who gives a shit about Favre, AD is where its at. Only a matter of minutes before you haters are proven wrong.

[Kobe]

I was saying?

[hi-rez]

haters gonna hate

[desiremotivation]

I bet Vikings as well. Plus, I opted to bet over 21 for the Vikings total. Both look possible, especially when the Vikings get the ball at the beginning of the 2nd half.

[PorkChop]

Saints 24-19

[desiremotivation]

If the Vikings could ever get good yardage on those kick returns they would be doing much better.

[Scope33]

Nice win Kobe ... that money line bet you put on the Vikes paid off nicely. Loud mouth.

[Kobe]

My bad everyone. I apologize. Good thing I spent most of my money on the spread, so I still ended up profiting big.

[IndyJonezy]

Favre will throw more interceptions then TDs this year

[Carseller4]

Going to be a long year for the Vikes.

[TheJer]

You should have guaranteed a Vikings cover instead of win. They were disappointing with New Orleans giving them so many breaks.

[Inspirited]

Vikes def need another receiver to fill in the void left by Rice.

[samdapatriotsfan]

Kobe, treat this as a lesson learned. The only is to stay the fukk away from the

Don't do it man, don't do it!!!