4 point move in a few hours - unreal!

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  • pavyracer
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-12-07
    • 82804

    #1
    4 point move in a few hours - unreal!
    Why will the line move from Detroit -1 to +3 in such a small amount of time?

    Detroit is undeafeted at home and last time they played Giants they smoked them. Giants barely beat Miami and lost to Dallas at home. Not to mention that they got run over by Packers that play in same division as Lions.

    Not even the Patriots ever got a 4 point move in such a short time.

    This is very strange. Is there a major injury to Detroit I'm not aware off?
  • prop
    SBR MVP
    • 09-04-07
    • 1073

    #2
    I would love to understand this move.
    Lions +3 even @ -119 seems to good to be true to me.
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    • Poker Pirate
      SBR High Roller
      • 11-03-06
      • 144

      #3
      I was looking foward to this game as pro lion/anit G men play and was disapointed Det was the fav. Will be hittin this line harder now that they are a dog, gonna wait in hope for further movement
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      • louis
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 09-23-06
        • 763

        #4
        Don't understand this line movement at all. Have searched and could find nothing on it. Does anyone have any idea if someone was injured or not? I also agree with the poster, that favoring Detroit makes more sense here, and the current line seems kind of odd.
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        • pavyracer
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 04-12-07
          • 82804

          #5
          Originally posted by louis
          Don't understand this line movement at all. Have searched and could find nothing on it. Does anyone have any idea if someone was injured or not? I also agree with the poster, that favoring Detroit makes more sense here, and the current line seems kind of odd.
          I mean if this was the Cowboys or the Patriots I can understand there was a rush of bets to switch the line over to their favor. But this is the Giants that they play pathetic since Burress got hurt. Detroit is very strong at home and the slow Giants defense will have a hard time keeping up with fast Lions receivers that play home on indoor turf. Detroit is a very good team at home. Why will the Giants be favored?
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          • louis
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 09-23-06
            • 763

            #6
            I don't know why Giants are favored. It does not make sense to me. But the Giants are a good team; so is Detroit. I personally would favor Detroit to win, but it is not a sure thing. The home field advantage is very real in Detroit. Best line now seems to be at justbet, +3 -110. Line is actually running somewhere between 2.5 and 3. I might bet this one, but not sure I really like to understand line movements before I bet them.
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            • idontlikerocks
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 10-09-07
              • 571

              #7
              i took the giants here their 3 losses have been to dallas twice and green bay, wheras detroit has lost to philly, washington and arizona. the giants are beating the teams they are supposed to beat and detroit is one of them. somebody put a lot of money on the giants for the line to move into the 3.
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              • pavyracer
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 04-12-07
                • 82804

                #8
                Originally posted by idontlikerocks
                i took the giants here their 3 losses have been to dallas twice and green bay, wheras detroit has lost to philly, washington and arizona. the giants are beating the teams they are supposed to beat and detroit is one of them. somebody put a lot of money on the giants for the line to move into the 3.
                The only teams that Giants beat are teams with horrible offenses because they outscored them. Detroit's offense is on fire and I expect them to be up to the task with Giants. Detroits offense is similar to Dallas, fast athletic receivers, which the Giants defense can't defend. Buress inefficiency the last 3 weeks is hurting Giants offense.
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                • idontlikerocks
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 10-09-07
                  • 571

                  #9
                  you can make the same argument for the lions but even stronger. they have beaten oakland, minn, chicago twice and denver...... all teams that have quarterback issues... but the giants don't have that problem, i am not a big eli manning fan, but i think he could light it up against detroit.
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                  • imgv94
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 11-16-05
                    • 17192

                    #10
                    Plenty of reasons to like NYG here.......


                    Do you know that Jon Kitna has been sacked 37 times this season?



                    Did you know the Giants lead the NFL in sacks?
                    Giants Defense:
                    Osi Umenyiora 9.0 Sacks
                    Justin Tuck 7.0 Sacks
                    Michael Strahan 5.0 Sacks
                    Mathias Kiwanuka 4.5 Sacks


                    The official source for NFL news, video highlights, fantasy football, game-day coverage, schedules, stats, scores and more.




                    Lions are 4-0 @ Home this season. But who do they defeat?

                    Vikings (Below Avg)
                    Bears (Below Avg)
                    Bucs (AVG)
                    Broncos (Below AVG)

                    Giants are better than all 4 of these teams...


                    Do you also realize that before losing to the best team in the NFC, the Giants were on a six game winning streak outscoring their opponets 152-79 and winning three games on the road during that span.

                    Giants three defeats this season have come to the 8-1 Cowboys twice and the 8-1 Packers.

                    With the Giants losing their last game it should help them to get motivated enough avoiding any kind of letdown or coming out flat.


                    Giants are pretty solid on defense, they are ranked 9th in both rushing and passing.

                    Lions however are RANKED 30th vs PASS
                    they are ranked 8th vs RUN.
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                    • pavyracer
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 04-12-07
                      • 82804

                      #11
                      Originally posted by imgv94
                      Plenty of reasons to like NYG here.......


                      Do you know that Jon Kitna has been sacked 37 times this season?



                      Did you know the Giants lead the NFL in sacks?
                      Giants Defense:
                      Osi Umenyiora 9.0 Sacks
                      Justin Tuck 7.0 Sacks
                      Michael Strahan 5.0 Sacks
                      Mathias Kiwanuka 4.5 Sacks


                      The official source for NFL news, video highlights, fantasy football, game-day coverage, schedules, stats, scores and more.




                      Lions are 4-0 @ Home this season. But who do they defeat?

                      Vikings (Below Avg)
                      Bears (Below Avg)
                      Bucs (AVG)
                      Broncos (Below AVG)

                      Giants are better than all 4 of these teams...


                      Do you also realize that before losing to the best team in the NFC, the Giants were on a six game winning streak outscoring their opponets 152-79 and winning three games on the road during that span.

                      Giants three defeats this season have come to the 8-1 Cowboys twice and the 8-1 Packers.

                      With the Giants losing their last game it should help them to get motivated enough avoiding any kind of letdown or coming out flat.


                      Giants are pretty solid on defense, they are ranked 9th in both rushing and passing.

                      Lions however are RANKED 30th vs PASS
                      they are ranked 8th vs RUN.
                      May I ask which above average team the Giants beat this year? The only team with a winning record is Redskins and they are average at best.
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                      • CrapsMyWay
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 11-03-07
                        • 66

                        #12
                        I like the Giants also...Good Luck Everyone!
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                        • imgv94
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-16-05
                          • 17192

                          #13
                          Originally posted by pavyracer
                          May I ask which above average team the Giants beat this year? The only team with a winning record is Redskins and they are average at best.
                          Giants defeated Philly and the Redskins both teams killed the Lions...

                          Philly beat the Lions 56-21
                          Redskins beat the Lions 34-3

                          Let the Giants win by two points so we both win. I hammered the G-men immediately after the line came out.
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                          • pavyracer
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 04-12-07
                            • 82804

                            #14
                            Originally posted by imgv94
                            Giants defeated Philly and the Redskins both teams killed the Lions...

                            Philly beat the Lions 56-21
                            Redskins beat the Lions 34-3

                            Let the Giants win by two points so we both win. I hammered the G-men immediately after the line came out.
                            Good luck. I just noticed your avatar. No reason to argue. I hope you can see through the blinders
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                            • imgv94
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-16-05
                              • 17192

                              #15
                              Giants aren't my favorite team.. I just put them up there for Good Luck. It's like a lucky charm..
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                              • Crutch
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 09-18-07
                                • 216

                                #16
                                I like Detroit in this one i think
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                                • onlooker
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 08-10-05
                                  • 36572

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by imgv94
                                  Giants defeated Philly and the Redskins both teams killed the Lions...

                                  Philly beat the Lions 56-21
                                  Redskins beat the Lions 34-3
                                  Both were on the road for the Lions. We all know they have their troubles on the road.
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                                  • cartay
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 08-29-07
                                    • 151

                                    #18
                                    The Lions looked like the Lions of old last week (pathetic) while the Giants played with the Cowboys. Maybe it's short memories.
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                                    • $Bnizi
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 10-22-07
                                      • 252

                                      #19
                                      I like the Giants -2.5. They will get to Kitna and exploit the weak Detroit secondary with or without Burress.
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                                      • maritime
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 10-26-05
                                        • 474

                                        #20
                                        No significant injuries to explain the line movement. I see 55-60% bets coming in on Giants (not enough to move line). Sharp money on giants. img's on a winner. Play the Giants or no play IMO.
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                                        • bigdog3580
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 08-22-07
                                          • 3675

                                          #21
                                          I agree, smart money went to the G-Men.
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                                          • NardVa
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 10-02-07
                                            • 8325

                                            #22
                                            On paper the Giants should be able to run and pass on the Lions and on defense the Giants should be able to stop the run and make Kitna drop back and pass when means lots of sacks for the G Men. That is what shoud happen but something tells me this may be one of those classic Eli Manning road game where he does everything to lose the game.
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                                            • biggamer3
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 04-16-07
                                              • 2163

                                              #23
                                              Gmen will get pressure on Kitna

                                              Only way Lions win is if Jones has a monster day
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                                              • bmac
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 09-11-06
                                                • 513

                                                #24
                                                I am on NY with imgv. Hope we cash this one
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