Do the Jets = Superbowl Ravens

slacker00 · 01-21-10, 04:10 PM

The statistics are interesting if you compare thie two teams. The Jets offense grades out better than the 2000 Ravens. The 2009 Jets is comparable to the 2000 Ravens. Granted, we already know how the 2000 Ravens turned out. This Jets team still has work to do.

In the 2000 AFC Championship game, the Ravens were 6 1/2 point dogs on the road. The previous game, they were also 6 1/2 point dogs on the road. Deja Vu, anyone?

Doc JS · 01-21-10, 04:16 PM

The Jets could absolutely win the SB...

I don't think they will but they certainly could...

FWIW, I think the Raven defense that won the SB was better than this years Jets...

Doc

slacker00 · 01-21-10, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by Doc JS

The Jets could absolutely win the SB...

I don't think they will but they certainly could...

FWIW, I think the Raven defense that won the SB was better than this years Jets...

Doc

They were. They set the NFL record for least points allowed. Quite a feat.

But this years Jets is #1 in the league and compares favorably in every category.

In fact, this years Jets is more dominant than the 2000 Ravens in Yards per play allowed.

Jonah · 01-21-10, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by slacker00

The statistics are interesting if you compare thie two teams. The Jets offense grades out better than the 2000 Ravens. The 2009 Jets is comparable to the 2000 Ravens. Granted, we already know how the 2000 Ravens turned out. This Jets team still has work to do.

In the 2000 AFC Championship game, the Ravens were 6 1/2 point dogs on the road. The previous game, they were also 6 1/2 point dogs on the road. Deja Vu, anyone?

Interesting stat...And a painful one for me as I like the Colts and what definitely helped the Ravens win was knocking Gannon out of the game...

Something tells me that is what the Jets really, really would like to do...Rex has that look about him...

And after The BCS game with Colt going down, that might be more than I can bear.

slacker00 · 01-21-10, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by Jonah

Interesting stat...And a painful one for me as I like the Colts and what definitely helped the Ravens win was knocking Gannon out of the game...

Something tells me that is what the Jets really, really would like to do...Rex has that look about him...

And after The BCS game with Colt going down, that might be more than I can bear.

Did you listen to Rex's press conference yesterday? He said exactly that. He wants to get hits on Manning. It's almost worth a bet that the Jets can get to him. It's game over if Painter has to play.

Mr Handicapable · 01-21-10, 05:19 PM

Yeah Peyton has been knocked out of alot of games in his career

His QB rating while blitzed this year is 101...so good luck with that!! The Colts won't mind a few extra 15 yarders though if they want to come!

manning2010 · 01-21-10, 06:37 PM

The Defense is not close to that Raven team. That team won 12 games and shut down teams in the playoffs. [One of best defenses ever.

You are going to lose Jet fans , just give up now.

quote=Jonah;2997181]I think the Jets might rate out a little better:

Better Running Game & O line.
Better Receivers
& Best D Player out of the Two teams: Revis

Funny enough, the reason I cannot say w/o a good degree of certainty that this Jets team is better, is that the Ravens secondary rates out higher than the Jets secondary.

Other advantage for Ravens was their vet leadership...

...And I see the Colts being better than both.[/quote]

Chugs · 01-21-10, 06:44 PM

I even recall a team that was in the playoffs last season as a 5 seed with a stout D and solid rushing attack...

all_wade · 01-21-10, 07:08 PM

no way because they have no chance against the colts and if they do then they don't have a chance against the vikings or the saints.

Jonah · 01-21-10, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by Chugs

I even recall a team that was in the playoffs last season as a 5 seed with a stout D and solid rushing attack...

Chugs what/who are you talking about? The Ravens?

AlphaOmega · 01-21-10, 07:13 PM

hell no you cannot compare the Superbowl Ravens o this years JETS because the jets defense as good as it is is suspect, I mean how do you let the Miami Dolphins put up 30+ points twice in the same season.

yisman · 01-21-10, 07:15 PM

Comparable.

Jets defense isn't quite as good, but their offense is a bit better.

yisman · 01-21-10, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by all_wade

no way because they have no chance against the colts and if they do then they don't have a chance against the vikings or the saints.

They have a chance against any team in the NFL, and they've proven that.

lakerboy · 01-21-10, 07:17 PM

The Ravens were way better. Also the Ravens had Sharpe as tight end and no player on Jets offense compares to his big play abilities. That Ravens D was one of the best ever. One other advantage that Ravens team had was they got to face Kerry Collins and that average New York unit in the final , the Jets will have no such opponent.

Jonah · 01-21-10, 07:33 PM

I think the Ravens D was better mainly because of their Secondary(McCallister, Woodson & Starks) and D-Line....Yeah, yeah, of course Ray Ray and Boulware were great too.

That being said most Gm's/Coaches would rather build a D around an absolute shutdown corner(Revis) v. an amazing middle linebacker(Lewis). Jets D has a good start.

Jets receivers are way better...Edwards is an all-pro receiver...at getting open, so you still have to account for that. Cotchery is very nice and playing great...When he was out of line-up, Jets were not nearly the same.

Shannon Sharpe? I don't discount his leadership, but he had one catch for five yards in the Superbowl...How valuable was he, really?

hoopster42 · 01-21-10, 07:35 PM

not even close. jets 09 and ravens 00 is not even a discussion.

a month ago the jets were on the outside looking in the playoff picture

this thread is a joke to any knowledgeable nfl fan

PAULYPOKER · 01-21-10, 07:37 PM

no not really because of the remaining teams which are light years better than the 2000 giants

Jonah · 01-21-10, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by yisman

They have a chance against any team in the NFL, and they've proven that.

I agree, that D gives them a puncher's chance, at the very least...I am a huge believer in Peyton's greatness - and want this so bad for him - that's the only reason I am taking the Colts...

If I felt less about this, I would be very scared of their O-line(best running group I have seen in a while), Shonn Greene and their disguised blitzes.

goldengoat · 01-21-10, 07:40 PM

colts win 24 - 10

slacker00 · 01-21-10, 07:45 PM

The 2009 Jets defense has a much better pass defense than the 2000 Ravens.

This is important because the Colts NEED to pass to win because their running attack is anemic.

Also, the Colts run D is the weak link of their defense. Guess what? The Jets running game is their strength.

lakerboy · 01-21-10, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by Jonah

I think the Ravens D was better mainly because of their Secondary(McCallister, Woodson & Starks) and D-Line....Yeah, yeah, of course Ray Ray and Boulware were great too.

That being said most Gm's/Coaches would rather build a D around an absolute shutdown corner(Revis) v. an amazing middle linebacker(Lewis). Jets D has a good start.

Jets receivers are way better...Edwards is an all-pro receiver...at getting open, so you still have to account for that. Cotchery is very nice and playing great...When he was out of line-up, Jets were not nearly the same.

Shannon Sharpe? I don't discount his leadership, but he had one catch for five yards in the Superbowl...How valuable was he, really?

Didnt he make the play in Oakland that sealed the deal?

Grux · 01-21-10, 07:50 PM

This years Jets team reminds me a lot of the 2001 Pats Super Bowl Team.

1. Well Coached- Both coaches didn't allow their QB to lose the game.
2. Young Quarterback - Tom Brady's First Season Playing-He was also 28 years old. Sanchez is a lot younger than Brady was in his first season.
3. Very Good Defense with a shut down corner - Ty Law was very good in his day
4. No Respect
5. Nobody thought the Pats could beat the "Greatest Show On Turf" (Rams). They were 14 Point Underdog's to St.Louis.
6. Both could run the football. However, the jets running game is even better than the pats.

IMO, the jets are good enough to beat the colts and advance to the Super Bowl. I also think they could beat the Saints or Vikings in the big game.

Jonah · 01-21-10, 08:05 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Didnt he make the play in Oakland that sealed the deal?

Siragusa did.

eidolon · 01-21-10, 08:13 PM

Nein!

LT Profits · 01-21-10, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by Jonah

Siragusa did.

Sharpe had a 94-yard touchdown catch for the only touchdown in the game, although it came very early.

xfrozenx · 01-21-10, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by Jonah

I think the Jets might rate out a little better:

Better Running Game & O line.
Better Receivers
& Best D Player out of the Two teams: Revis

Funny enough, the reason I cannot say w/o a good degree of certainty that this Jets team is better, is that the Ravens secondary rates out higher than the Jets secondary.

Other advantage for Ravens was their vet leadership...

...And I see the Colts being better than both.

Jets Jets Jets!

Jag8917 · 01-21-10, 11:13 PM

If Peyton doesn't take them out of their Cinderella run, then it's possible.

icsky3 · 01-21-10, 11:14 PM

I think they are better than your Ravens comparison... Explosive team.

manning2010 · 01-22-10, 06:18 PM

Do you tards even watch football? The 9-7 Jets who squeaked in the playoffs. Are they even as good as the 2008 Ravens? I dont think so. What about TB team that won the SB or the Giants team 2 years ago.

No on all accounts. Cant wait to watch the Jets lose so you can go back in your hole for another 40 years.

Originally posted by icsky3

I think they are better than your Ravens comparison... Explosive team.

slacker00 · 01-22-10, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by manning2010

Do you tards even watch football? The 9-7 Jets who squeaked in the playoffs. Are they even as good as the 2008 Ravens? I dont think so. What about TB team that won the SB or the Giants team 2 years ago.

No on all accounts. Cant wait to watch the Jets lose so you can go back in your hole for another 40 years.

9-7 Cardinal got to the Super Bowl last season. Do YOU watch football?

I think YOUR game must be tiddly winks, based on your understanding of the NFL.

netinfo · 01-23-10, 02:47 AM

The 9-7 Jets who squeaked in the playoffs.

9-7 Cardinal got to the Super Bowl last season.

Whether the Jets "squeaked" into the playoffs, or if they had won their division, is very much irrelevant now. The fact of the matter is that the Jets are 2-0 right now in the playoffs, therefore "hot", on a "streak" and "undefeated". That's what matters right now. It is not inconceivable that this year's Jets ends up like last year's Cardinals.

I don't understand why Colts fans are not being more sensible and cautious with regards the surprising Jets. The worst thing that one can do is underestimate the opponent.

netinfo

CAUTION · 01-23-10, 03:20 AM

I think the jets will get stink bombed this week. (Translation 34-10 colts.)

slacker00 · 01-23-10, 06:16 AM

Originally posted by CAUTION

I think the jets will get stink bombed this week. (Translation 34-10 colts.)

I see some goofballs thinking the Colts will put up 34 points. My only question is where these points are going to come from.

The Colts running game averaged 1 TD per game. The Jets passing defense allowed 1/2 TD per game.

Is the Colts running game going to wake from the dead? Is the Jets passing defense going to melt down in a way it hasn't at all this year? How about defense or special teams scoring? Because the Jets are superior in both of those categories.

For the Colts, the weight of the team is all on Peyton's shoulders. But Peyton isn't that great in the playoffs. He's only 8-8, not great. The year he won the Super Bowl, the Patriots really should have beaten him in the championship game if it wasn't for two dropped TD passes by Caldwell. You can't take away his ring, but he's only thrown 24 TD passes in 16 playoff games.

Bottom line, the Colts will be fortunate to score two TDs and two FGs, getting to 20 points. That leaves the Jets with a fair amount of work to get to 20. Personally, I'm banking on Vinatieri missing on of those FGs, it's just one of those things.

Jets 20 Colts 17

jerseykingpin · 01-23-10, 06:55 AM

Originally posted by all_wade

no way because they have no chance against the colts and if they do then they don't have a chance against the vikings or the saints.

Any team can win at any time all it takes is one fumble someone gets knocked out of the game ect so keep saying NO WAY we seen it all tear long