Manning didn't deserve MVP

[Pride>UFC]

Last year it should've gone to Warner.

This year it should've gone to Brees or Rivers...what a joke...

Both players had better qb ratings and more yards, better td/int ratios.

They give the MVP to Manning every year right before Rivers sends him home

in the playoffs.

34 TDs, 11 ints and 28 tds to 9 ints with a higher qb rating and less talented

receivers is more impressive than than 33 tds and 16 ints.

Nothing against Peyton, but he's already got 4 MVPs and the other 2 were more

deserving this year.

Without Manning, the Colts are 8-8

Without Rivers, the Chargers are 1-15 (worst rb in the nfl, worst coach in nfl, etc..)

[slacker00]

Without Manning, the Colts are 8-8

Without Rivers, the Chargers are 1-15 (worst rb in the nfl, worst coach in nfl, etc..)

I strongly disagree with this quote. You've got it about backwards. Colts are 1-15 without Peyton, Chargers go 8-8 without Rivers.

Part of it is because the team is designed around Peyton, they simply don't have a good backup QB because they don't need one.

With Rivers, it's more of a standard system. Plus, Volek is probably the best backup QB in the league. He'd make a fine starter, IMHO.


Both teams would lose their edge without their starting QB, but the Colts are nothing without Peyton, the Chargers would "get along".

[thebestthereis]

If Manning went down in week 1 they would have been 0-16 (assuming Painter played, if the back up kicker was the QB maybe 8-8). He is the most valuble to his team by far.

[Pride>UFC]

I strongly disagree with this quote. You've got it about backwards. Colts are 1-15 without Peyton, Chargers go 8-8 without Rivers. Part of it is because the team is designed around Peyton, they simply don't have a good backup QB because they don't need one. With Rivers, it's more of a standard system. Plus, Volek is probably the best backup QB in the league. He'd make a fine starter, IMHO. Both teams would lose their edge without their starting QB, but the Colts are nothing without Peyton, the Chargers would "get along".

Rivers this year: 4 game winning drives this year. Peyton= 2?

have u seen LT play? or do u just think he's good because of his reputation? I'm a Charger fan, so I know that LT is so bad that it hurts when he gets the ball and trips over his own feet for a no gain.

Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark= two of the best at their position.

VJ and Gates= slightly above average but Rivers is so accurate it doesn't matter.

Colts= good defense, good coaches

Chargers= average defense, Norv Turner

[slacker00]

Rivers this year: 4 game winning drives this year. Peyton= 2?

Peyton owns Rivers in this category. Peyton set the NFL record this year for most consecutive games won with a 4Q comeback.

As for the rest, I think I'm being generous saying Clark/Wayne versus VJ/Gates is a push. Manning pads their stats so bad. The defenses are a push as well. SD is having a down year. Anyone who says Norv is a bad coach isn't paying attention.

[Pride>UFC]

Anyone who says Norv is a bad coach isn't paying attention.[/quote]

You and I both know that either of us could've coached the Chargers to the playoffs this year