Ravenraiders

slacker00 · 01-02-10, 07:27 AM

Hey Pauly, I agree that the Raiders are looking good lately. I think it's worth a gamble to play the Raiders given all those points. They're at home and are capable of pulling a big upset here. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it's definitely worth the odds.

tomcast · 01-02-10, 09:10 AM

I'm with you. Good luck.

PAULYPOKER · 01-02-10, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by slacker00

Hey Pauly, I agree that the Raiders are looking good lately. I think it's worth a gamble to play the Raiders given all those points. They're at home and are capable of pulling a big upset here. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it's definitely worth the odds.

Hey Slack look at my latest edit above you

whatsgood5 · 01-02-10, 09:17 AM

I'll be on this too, good luck man

slacker00 · 01-02-10, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

Hey Slack look at my latest edit above you

Good writeup, Pauly.

I'm starting to like the Raiders and maybe even Al Davis. Personnel mistakes aside, Davis isn't afraid to shake things up even if it means failure. Something about this team, I think there's some kind of spark in Oakland right now.

DetroitRob · 01-02-10, 11:48 AM

they sure looked awful last week

BigdaddyQH · 01-02-10, 12:03 PM

The fact is that the Raiders are at home, and their record at home is worse than their away record. Last year, they won 3 games away and 2 at home. This year, a loss guarantees the same record. The Raiders are 7-8 ATS, 7-7 as a dog, and 2-5 ATS at home, so that proves how poor of a home team they really are this year. It is simple for Baltimore. Win and you are in. Baltimore is only a 2-5 away team, bu 3-3-1 ATS. 4 of their away losses were AT Cincinnasti, New England, Minnesota and Green Bay, all playoff teams. And you want us to take Oakland S/U? Not a chance in hell.

PAULYPOKER · 01-02-10, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

The fact is that the Raiders are at home, and their record at home is worse than their away record. Last year, they won 3 games away and 2 at home. This year, a loss guarantees the same record. The Raiders are 7-8 ATS, 7-7 as a dog, and 2-5 ATS at home, so that proves how poor of a home tham they really are this year. It is simple for Baltimore. Win and you are in. Baltimore is only a 2-5 away team, bu 3-3-1 ATS. 4 of their away losses were AT Cincinnasti, New England, Minnesota and Green Bay, all playofr teams. And you want us to take Oakland S/U? Not a chance in hell.

Big daddy honestly I don't think you read my threads before you post yes it is true what you are saying but it is also true and factual what I have posted so please take the time to read it and try to come up with a rebuttal for it yes maybe it's risky taking the ml but the +11 1/2 is definitely the right side here my friend

PAULYPOKER · 01-02-10, 12:16 PM

And if you think I don't know the Raiders I had them two weeks ago on a pleaser and ml when they beat Denver

PS I edited the ML advice out of my original post just for you Daddy

BigdaddyQH · 01-02-10, 12:26 PM

I also know your gaming record, and it is certainly nothing to write home about. I also know that I wanger $10.00 to your one, and win much much more in a year than you would dream of in a lifetime. So please pardon me if I do not believe a person who comes off like some all knowing tout. You clearly stated to take the Raiders and the ML. That is simply not going to happen. Live with it. I also know that Pitt is NOT a playoff contender, so please get your facts straight.

PAULYPOKER · 01-02-10, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

I also know your gaming record, and it is certainly nothing to write home about. I also know that I wanger $10.00 to your one, and win much much more in a year than you would dream of in a lifetime. So please pardon me if I do not believe a person who comes off like some all knowing tout. You clearly stated to take the Raiders and the ML. That is simply not going to happen. Live with it. I also know that Pitt is NOT a playoff contender, so please get your facts straight.

Whats your gaming record Daddy???? where is your plays you don't post them I wonder why??? Is it because you want us to think you are perfect well nobody is perfect Sunshine and you have no clue what my record is just because I post plays that does not mean that's my record I could care less what my public record is simply because I don't get paid for it
all I care about is being positive at the end of the month and collect a check and I do that quite well thank you and You think just because you wager more than me you are better than me get real until you start posting your plays you are a loser in my eyes sunshine

Good day Daddy

PAULYPOKER · 01-02-10, 01:17 PM

Here is your post on my thread from yesterday:

Ohio State gets run over by Oregon. Oregon has too much speed for the Bucks. You have Pryor against the Oregon big 3 of Masoli, Blount and James. I will admit that if the Big 10 was ever going to win another Rose Bowl, this would be the year, but I do not see that happening. I see LSU defeating Penn State also. Penn State will need a near perfect game from their QB Daryll Clark to win. LSU is also going to need a very good game from their QB. This game will be the closest of the 3 mentioned. It could also be the lowest scoring of the 3. Auburn should handle Northwestern, but never sell Northwestern short. That team knows how to give 110% on every play in every game. Auburn will need a good offensive performance to win this game. Now I probably will be wrong on one of these games, so let's say 1-2 for the Big 10. Maybe 0-3. Outside chance of 2-1.

This was the post of mine you were replying to:

Folks when it comes to college football I am pretty much average
Except for when the Big ten is involved I am correct on the big ten games around 80% of the time so with that said here is your free moneymakers thank me when it's over anything less would be uncivilized

Auburn wins this one by 14+

Pennstate wins in a semi close battle

Ohio State wins could get ugly for ducks

It's plain to see that I defeated you flawlessly yesterday you were 0 wins and 3 Losses and I was 3 wins and 0 Losses cause I did not trust Auburn so I took their Ml but since I did not post it that way I take it as a loss so my post record is 2 wins and 1 loss so who is the better handicapper or did you just have a bad day??
how much did you lose 10 20 or 30 grand????

Jag8917 · 01-02-10, 02:11 PM

Despite the spread being quite large, Baltimore is going to do everything in their power to crush Oakland and secure that final playoff spot. I would still take Baltimore despite the large spread.

Chi_archie · 01-02-10, 02:33 PM

staying away from this game

Chi_archie · 01-02-10, 02:33 PM

will ed reed be playing by the way?

PAULYPOKER · 01-02-10, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

will ed reed be playing by the way?

ED REED STILL A GAME TIME DICISION DISPUTES INJURY
December 31 Baltimore Sun
"Speaking to the media today for the first time in several weeks, Ravens safety Ed Reed disputed a pair of media reports related to his injured groin and hip. Asked about a report on baltimoresun.com on Monday that he and coach John Harbaugh disagreed on whether or not he should play against the Steelers, that Reed wanted to go and Harbaugh held him out, Reed called the story a "lie" and said that he and the coach were on the same page. "Me and coach didn't have any [disagreement] at all," Reed said. "Honestly, he asked me what I think, I told him I could probably give him about 15 plays. That's not my type of play. We made a decision that I would not play because we need the roster spot ..."

Jag8917 · 01-02-10, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

staying away from this game

Me too.

HenPrivilege · 01-03-10, 03:39 AM

I'm on the Raiders ML. I've been watching the Raiders closely as well. They are a different team when the game means something. Cleveland last week was a no brainer. Raiders winning two in a row? No way in hell. I would of liked this game even more if Gradkowski was playing.

However, Frye may be the guy in this scenario. He is 1-1 against the Ravens when he was on an awful Browns team. Frye actually could have been 2-0 against the Ravens. Loss came in 2006 when the Ravens were 13-3. Ravens trailed 14-3 in the 4th, ended up winning 15-14.

I think it is also worth mentioning that the Ravens are 1-1 against the Raiders in Oakland. The loss being the 2000 AFC Champsionship game. I wouldn't be surprised if senile Al Davis sent a memo to the locker room to avenge that game courtesy of a Siragusa flop on Flacco.

Another interesting fact is that Harbaugh in 2 years is undefeated against sub .500 teams. He is due for a L. The Ravens should have never been in a win and your in situation. Reminiscent of the Bucs last year. East coast team travels to the West Coast with a win and your in situation. May be the Raiders calling card.

I was surprised to see this post. I thought I was the only crazy one to like the Raiders.

BetterBizness · 01-03-10, 06:19 AM

I follow the Raiders in the same way.. when the games mean something they don't compete.. but when nothing is on the line, the find a way to play like they're in the playoffs... Cover for sure... maybe last min Victory as well

PAULYPOKER · 01-03-10, 11:19 AM

I like how you guys and I think it is almost freakish but I like it

G's pks · 01-03-10, 11:22 AM

I do not see the Raiders winning this game... Come on man!

Rio DiNero · 01-03-10, 11:30 AM

Bet Oakland 1H, then after that wins, parlay it all on Baltimore 2H. You heard it here first.

PAULYPOKER · 01-03-10, 11:30 AM

G you are to old school to understand where we are coming from no offense though

MeatMan73 · 01-03-10, 11:31 AM

Sorry Charlie- think you're wrong on this one. Baltimore off a loss and a needed win to get-in says it all.
Earlier this season- Ravens went to San Diego, flew to the west coast, and won on grass, against a much better team than the Raiders. Today on the NFL network, quote from former Raider Warren Sapp, "Nobody cashes-out early and packs a u-haul like the Oakland Raiders"

Slate · 01-03-10, 12:04 PM

Baltimore needs a win and they are in, they will win going away, what is oakland playing for, because they are the Bad Guys, you either bet Baltimore or save your money

Slate · 01-03-10, 12:08 PM

Baltimore

Ravens are 11-0 ATS vs. a team with a losing record.
Ravens are 4-0 ATS in their last 4 games after accumulating more than 150 yards rushing in their previous game.
Ravens are 5-1 ATS in their last 6 games after accumulating less than 150 yards passing in their previous game.
Ravens are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games following a S.U. loss.
Ravens are 13-4 ATS in their last 17 games as a favorite.
Ravens are 6-2 ATS in their last 8 games as a favorite of 3.5-10.0.
Ravens are 22-9-1 ATS in their last 32 games on grass.
Ravens are 19-9-1 ATS in their last 29 games overall.
Ravens are 3-7 ATS in their last 10 road games vs. a team with a losing home record.
Ravens are 2-6 ATS in their last 8 games in January.
Ravens are 1-3-1 ATS in their last 5 vs. AFC.
Ravens are 3-9 ATS in their last 12 games as a road favorite.
Ravens are 2-8 ATS in their last 10 games as a road favorite of 3.5-10.0.
Ravens are 0-5 ATS in their last 5 games after allowing less than 90 yards rushing in their previous game.

Oakland

Raiders are 5-0 ATS in their last 5 games following a ATS loss.
Raiders are 4-0 ATS in their last 4 games after scoring less than 15 points in their previous game.
Raiders are 5-1 ATS in their last 6 games following a S.U. loss.
Raiders are 4-1 ATS vs. a team with a winning record.
Raiders are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games after allowing less than 150 yards passing in their previous game.
Raiders are 5-2 ATS in their last 7 home games vs. a team with a winning road record.
Raiders are 10-22 ATS in their last 32 games as a home underdog.
Raiders are 18-40 ATS in their last 58 games after accumulating more than 350 total yards in their previous game.
Raiders are 16-38-1 ATS in their last 55 home games.
Raiders are 1-5 ATS in their last 6 games in Week 17.

BigdaddyQH · 01-03-10, 12:10 PM

You can't ask for any more angles or trends than that guys. I think Slate has covered all the technicla ends of the game here.

PAULYPOKER · 01-03-10, 12:12 PM

You use your stats and I'll use my head It's called Intellect

And this my friends is what separates winners from losers

Slate · 01-03-10, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

You use your stats and I'll use my head It's called Intellect

And this my friends is what separates winners from losers

Just stating the stats and my opinion, it is Baltimore or nothing, I sure wouldnt play my money on being Bad Guys

and you have no clue if I am a loser or not
i quess we will see who the loser is on this game later

and if any of us were that intellectual we probably would be betting on something completely out of our control

PAULYPOKER · 01-03-10, 12:51 PM

And you have no clue if i am wrong or not

hanco21 · 01-03-10, 12:54 PM

PAULYPOKER · 01-03-10, 12:54 PM

TO---Slate
PAULYPOKER
YOU SEE i WON'T BE A LOSER CAUSE I AM SMART ENOUGH TO STAY AWAY FROM THE GAME BUT YOU ON THE OTHER HAND ARE FALLING RIGHT INTO THE BOOKS TRAP HOOK LINE AND SINKER

Slate · 01-03-10, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

And you have no clue if i am wrong or not

But I will in about seven hours, and I will post what I did so we will both know then

griffdog · 01-03-10, 02:17 PM

This one falls under the 'why the hell not?' category. Play a little on the ML, if it loses, no big. But it wins, and you come out looking good.