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  • LT Profits
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-27-06
    • 90963

    #36
    Originally posted by suicidekings
    Putting all comparisons aside of the teams' various offensive and defensive strengths and weaknesses for the moment, why are so many people eager to bet against a team (any team) when they've been winning? I see way too many people justifying their SD pick with "The Broncos have to lose sometime" or some variation on it. I think by this point, even the skeptics have to admit that Denver has been an under-rated team this year. How many games does a team have to win before people stop trying to justify why the other team lost? A win is a win. Blame it on the coinflip? Luck is a big part of winning...

    That being said, if you genuinely believe that the Chargers will be the better team, then bet them. However, I feel like a lot of the reasons people have suggested why SD will win are trend based, and you can find historical reasons to justify pretty much any team in any situation (Norv Turner is the only coach in the AFC with a win in the playoffs for the last 2 years? Really? That's relevant how?).

    I would much rather ride a win streak and be wrong once than second guess the team that has continued to impress, week after week.
    As always, it's all about line value. If the Broncos were not 5-0, this line would be SD -4 or -4.5. And yes, when both teams are fully healthy, the Chargers are the better team.
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    • R3Sports
      SBR MVP
      • 03-21-07
      • 3167

      #37
      Chargers are in desperation mode.
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      • Mister_Man
        SBR Rookie
        • 10-14-09
        • 7

        #38
        suicidekings,

        The stat about Norv Turner is relevant to the quote from poster Gemoka regarding Norv Turner as a coach. So in that context it was highly relevant.
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        • iLogan
          SBR Sharp
          • 10-11-09
          • 357

          #39
          Originally posted by LT Profits
          As always, it's all about line value. If the Broncos were not 5-0, this line would be SD -4 or -4.5. And yes, when both teams are fully healthy, the Chargers are the better team.

          The chargers are 2-2, the Broncos are 5-0. The Broncos' have 43 PA compared to SD's 102 PA. Better in what way?

          Being "due for a loss" is not enough my friend.
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388179

            #40
            Sd is a tad overrated
            Denver is for real

            although the due factor does come into play here favoring SD.
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            • Smurf71
              Restricted User
              • 08-03-09
              • 163

              #41
              This is the week when Denver goes down! It will be close game, not kind of 41-3 beating that happened in late 2007 but Denver will be 5-1 after that game. They have surprised everybody, including themselves but how many close overtime victories can one get?
              SD is not the team they used to be but they need this win badly and they are home, Denver is due to lose. 24-20 SD
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              • blg123
                SBR High Roller
                • 09-18-08
                • 182

                #42
                Originally posted by iLogan
                So you're saying they get it right every time? You can't be serious These are the same odds makers that predicted that SD be a Superbowl contender. RIGHT

                Denver +165 ML is my play. Why? Because Denver has proved that they're legit. SD hasn't proved anything.
                Boy you are straight up SQUARE!!! in every sense of that word... Is home field on the Monday sinking in for you? Linemakers know more then most of us so when u see a line like this that you think is "so far off" why don't you do yourself a favor and take a stepback and ask yourself why they made the line they did?

                We are 5 games into the season and they are 2-2. SD basically have no shot according to you of any Superbowl run. Do me a favor just take a look on the division futures and look how close the numbers are on who is favored to win the get back to me!

                While I won't be playing this game because the line is right on you my friend are going to be bitting your nails the whole game that you can bank on.
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                • iLogan
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 10-11-09
                  • 357

                  #43
                  Originally posted by blg123
                  Boy you are straight up SQUARE!!! in every sense of that word... Is home field on the Monday sinking in for you? Linemakers know more then most of us so when u see a line like this that you think is "so far off" why don't you do yourself a favor and take a stepback and ask yourself why they made the line they did?

                  We are 5 games into the season and they are 2-2. SD basically have no shot according to you of any Superbowl run. Do me a favor just take a look on the division futures and look how close the numbers are on who is favored to win the get back to me!

                  While I won't be playing this game because the line is right on you my friend are going to be bitting your nails the whole game that you can bank on.
                  I'm a square, but you're not playing the game. BITCH put up or shut the **** up. Lame

                  If i'm wrong, WHO CARES!!!! Will that stop me, NOOOO!!! You know why? Because I'm on the + side, and I'm still a noob in the game. You get mad when someone doesn't take the play you make and disagrees with your reasoning. What a dork. Haha

                  These same odds makers had the Colts waaaay off Sunday night. So you mean to tell me these guys don't make mistakes? LAME = blg123
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                  • blg123
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 09-18-08
                    • 182

                    #44
                    Originally posted by iLogan
                    I'm a square, but you're not playing the game. BITCH put up or shut the **** up. Lame

                    If i'm wrong, WHO CARES!!!! Will that stop me, NOOOO!!! You know why? Because I'm on the + side, and I'm still a noob in the game. You get mad when someone doesn't take the play you make and disagrees with your reasoning. What a dork. Haha

                    These same odds makers had the Colts waaaay off Sunday night. So you mean to tell me these guys don't make mistakes? LAME = blg123
                    Thanks for answering my questions have a great day my friend!
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                    • LT Profits
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-27-06
                      • 90963

                      #45
                      Originally posted by iLogan
                      The chargers are 2-2, the Broncos are 5-0. The Broncos' have 43 PA compared to SD's 102 PA. Better in what way?

                      Being "due for a loss" is not enough my friend.
                      I said "when fully healthy". The Chargers had key injuries to both the offensive and defensive lines.
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                      • pimike
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 03-23-08
                        • 37140

                        #46
                        Ilogan you are a funny guy.

                        You picked Jets, Ark State now Denver.

                        Thanks for the free play on Chargers.
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                        • iLogan
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                          • 10-11-09
                          • 357

                          #47
                          Originally posted by pimike
                          Ilogan you are a funny guy.

                          You picked Jets, Ark State now Denver.

                          Thanks for the free play on Chargers.
                          Hey Pimike, I also picked Jets Over 36 Won, Ark State Under 53 Won. I don't see your point

                          I have Boise tonight to cover, you going with Tulsa? Haha

                          Edit: See quote in sig. Peace
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                          • iLogan
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                            • 10-11-09
                            • 357

                            #48
                            Originally posted by blg123
                            Thanks for answering my questions have a great day my friend!
                            and thanks for answering mine
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                            • frostno98
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-11-07
                              • 9769

                              #49
                              Originally posted by Smurf71
                              This is the week when Denver goes down! It will be close game, not kind of 41-3 beating that happened in late 2007 but Denver will be 5-1 after that game. They have surprised everybody, including themselves but how many close overtime victories can one get?
                              SD is not the team they used to be but they need this win badly and they are home, Denver is due to lose. 24-20 SD
                              But can SD win by more than a field goal. The Denver D is the real deal so far. Remember this Defense gave up only 16 point in the first 3 games, and gave zero 2nd half points to the Patriots and the Cowboy. Both pretty prolific offenses.
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                              • LT Profits
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-27-06
                                • 90963

                                #50
                                Originally posted by frostno98
                                But can SD win by more than a field goal. The Denver D is the real deal so far. Remember this Defense gave up only 16 point in the first 3 games, and gave zero 2nd half points to the Patriots and the Cowboy. Both pretty prolific offenses.
                                Yes but not to take anything away from their great performance vs. New England, it is easier to play defense when you know what's coming.

                                But still, you are right that they have been very solid all year. It's just that the Chargers are a dangerous team as they start getting their walking wounded back, especially with two weeks to prepare.
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                                • payingthejuice
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                                  • 04-02-09
                                  • 2075

                                  #51
                                  Denver Broncos PR=5.54 vs San Diego Chargers PR=5.65 (Adding +.5 for playing at home PR=6.15)

                                  Chargers have a PR Advantage of +0.59, which would make this a 3Unit play for me.
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                                  • Poker_Beast
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-14-06
                                    • 6545

                                    #52
                                    Denver for me
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                                    • dwaechte
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 08-27-07
                                      • 5481

                                      #53
                                      Threads like this are fun.

                                      Anywho, SD always seems to be underrated by the public, but Denver might be underrated right now too. I like the Broncs in this one.
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                                      • textbook winner
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 09-24-09
                                        • 85

                                        #54
                                        ya there's no way denver takes this one
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                                        • marabdl86
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-06-09
                                          • 1067

                                          #55
                                          WHo wants to bet points? Denver's going to cover this. SD is a garbage team and you will see Monday night. They are goign to try and screen all night and get shutdown. Dummerville's goign to eat River's for Dinner.
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                                          • hanco21
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-19-06
                                            • 3414

                                            #56
                                            I like the Chargers in this spot
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                                            • twincities77
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 09-07-09
                                              • 716

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by LT Profits
                                              As always, it's all about line value. If the Broncos were not 5-0, this line would be SD -4 or -4.5. And yes, when both teams are fully healthy, the Chargers are the better team.
                                              There is absolutely no reason to believe this is correct at this point.
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                                              • blg123
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 09-18-08
                                                • 182

                                                #58
                                                [quote=iLogan;2385638]

                                                I have Boise tonight to cover, you going with Tulsa? Haha


                                                Thanks.... I took Tulsa because you wrote this..... excellent guy keep um coming
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                                                • WINGZ
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 09-09-09
                                                  • 186

                                                  #59
                                                  Denver wins this game easily. They live and die on their defense (which rivals the "Orange Crush") GO BRONCS!!!
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                                                  • iwutitan
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                                                    • 03-23-09
                                                    • 210

                                                    #60
                                                    As long as Orton is your QB, you get no love. Thus ride the Bronco train until it derails
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                                                    • 2daBank
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 01-26-09
                                                      • 88966

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by iLogan
                                                      Hey Pimike, I also picked Jets Over 36 Won, Ark State Under 53 Won. I don't see your point

                                                      I have Boise tonight to cover, you going with Tulsa? Haha

                                                      Edit: See quote in sig. Peace
                                                      WOW U PIKED OV NYJ/MIA OV! u and every square in the world! BET U WERE REAL WORRIED W 8MIN LEFT IN GM! AND ARK ST UND GIVE ME A FKIN BREAK IN WAS FUKIN POURING
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                                                      • Stringer Bell
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 10-14-09
                                                        • 791

                                                        #62
                                                        Broncos have been underrated all season and are still dawgs against the overrated chargers, love them at +3
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                                                        • BigdaddyQH
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 07-13-09
                                                          • 19530

                                                          #63
                                                          Didn't we go through this same caca last year with Denver? I believe that they were the team with the 3 game lead in the AFC West with 3 to play and blew it. I also believe that Denver has not covered against San Diego in their last 5 tries, and has not covered in San Diego in the past 3 years. I can not take Denver. San Diego is also 6-3 as a home favorite on Monday Nights, while Denver is 5-10 as an away dog. Denver will have to prove that they are the real deal before I wager on them against San Diego. I would love to see them win this game, and finally put to rest the notion that San Diego is good, but I will not wager on it.
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                                                          • marabdl86
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 10-06-09
                                                            • 1067

                                                            #64
                                                            This is a totally different football team. The coach is gone, the QB is gone, almost the whole defense is different. You guys are crazy to bet on the chargers against Denver giving them 4+ points !
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                                                            • 2daBank
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-26-09
                                                              • 88966

                                                              #65
                                                              if anything there qb being gone despite what ppl are starting 2 think is not a good thing it wsnt cutlers fault da dfence was terrible. the d is much improved 4sure and sd total inability to stop the run is very worrysome only reason ill even think about touching this gm is being the degenerate i am it is on mon night after all
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                                                              • Sports Cruncher
                                                                SBR Hustler
                                                                • 12-10-08
                                                                • 98

                                                                #66
                                                                San Diego defense incredibly soft up the middle now, and Denver incredibly strong at running it there. Denver has such a big advantage in the run matchups this week that as long as they can limit the Chargers' deep passing game (and Denver has been very good defending deep passes so far) they can once again win as a dog.
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                                                                • hillardoh
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                                                                  • 09-08-09
                                                                  • 510

                                                                  #67
                                                                  would anyone here take denver at +5 points buying 2 points?
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                                                                  • Gman269
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                                                                    • 03-09-09
                                                                    • 296

                                                                    #68
                                                                    I'm still not sold on Denver. I think they got very lucky to get to 5/0. Im not sold on Orton either. Hailing from Philly I am a big fan of B Dawk. His leadership is is the missing link in the Birds D and I'm sure the glue to Denvers. I think I'll try to stay away from this one but I know the degenerate in me has to make a play on Monday night. That being said I wouldn't be at all suprised to see Denver at 5/3 by week 8. @SD @Balt Pitt at home. They win 2 out of 3 and I'll jump on the wagon. I hope they do for the sake of my boy Dawkins. I'd love to see him get a ring in fact. Just don't see it happening. The party in Denver may be about over. Just a Eagles fans opinion. Go Phillies
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                                                                    • iLogan
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 10-11-09
                                                                      • 357

                                                                      #69
                                                                      [quote=blg123;2389072]
                                                                      Originally posted by iLogan

                                                                      I have Boise tonight to cover, you going with Tulsa? Haha


                                                                      Thanks.... I took Tulsa because you wrote this..... excellent guy keep um coming
                                                                      Dude, so what you got lucky. You were sweating bullets the whole game, get a life lame.

                                                                      Cincy -3 Tonight. Put up or shut up.
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                                                                      • iLogan
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 10-11-09
                                                                        • 357

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                                        WOW U PIKED OV NYJ/MIA OV! u and every square in the world! BET U WERE REAL WORRIED W 8MIN LEFT IN GM! AND ARK ST UND GIVE ME A FKIN BREAK IN WAS FUKIN POURING
                                                                        Hey, dumbass it stopped raining after the half, nerd, and what exactly is your point? And WTF are you? GFY
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