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  • Danskeren
    SBR Sharp
    • 05-27-09
    • 498

    #1
    Patriots at Jets
    Patriots opens as a -6.5 favorite. They could't cover against the bills, so the line dropped to -5.5/5

    Today the line dropped even further to -4 with 67% on the Patriots. No doubt this line will attract a lot of public action. It looks like a way to obvious pick to me.



    What do you guys think?

  • ZBOIZ
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 06-22-08
    • 21464

    #2
    I dont trust the Patriots anymore..

    Just lay your money on the Saints Sunday. Better team going against a team without there starting QB in Mcnabb.
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    • punishthebook
      Restricted User
      • 09-15-09
      • 26

      #3
      Pats

      Obvious to me as well the Pats should win by at least two touchdowns I think!!! Welker and Moss are going to light it up all year. I don't think I need to mention Brady is the real deal and will get better and more consistent each game.



      Punishthebook.
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      • Danskeren
        SBR Sharp
        • 05-27-09
        • 498

        #4
        Originally posted by ZBOIZ
        I dont trust the Patriots anymore..

        Just lay your money on the Saints Sunday. Better team going against a team without there starting QB in Mcnabb.

        Is Mcnabb surely out?
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        • alittlemoresound
          SBR Sharp
          • 12-14-08
          • 472

          #5
          I think the JETS cover. NE Defense was all over the place too many new people. Jets look prepared for battle. Bills covered... Jets do the same
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          • ZBOIZ
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 06-22-08
            • 21464

            #6
            Originally posted by Danskeren
            Is Mcnabb surely out?

            He out, and even if he play he will not be close to 100%
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            • Danskeren
              SBR Sharp
              • 05-27-09
              • 498

              #7
              Originally posted by ZBOIZ
              He out, and even if he play he will not be close to 100%

              I see. Just dont like the matchup between Saints D-line and Eagles O-line. I know the Saints are stronger than last year but it's still not a matchup that favoures the Saints.
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              • Danskeren
                SBR Sharp
                • 05-27-09
                • 498

                #8
                Originally posted by alittlemoresound
                I think the JETS cover. NE Defense was all over the place too many new people. Jets look prepared for battle. Bills covered... Jets do the same
                This line-movement tells me the same.
                Line down to -3.5 at some places!!
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                • coachr1
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 09-06-09
                  • 111

                  #9
                  I like the Jets. Jets defense looked very good Sunday and shutout a good offense on the road last week(Houston scored on defense). New England has one less day to recover and prepare for a Ryan coached defense. I think New England is a false favorite here.
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                  • riggs
                    Restricted User
                    • 11-06-08
                    • 1100

                    #10
                    The line is set at 3 and 3.5, I got it at 3.5 and I see the Jets taking this SU. I'll definitely be playing this one on the ml as well as a nice value bet. Jets will be pumped up for this bad boy!
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                    • RoagBettor
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-20-09
                      • 8355

                      #11
                      Houston's offense sucks. You can't judge the Jets based upon the Houston game.
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                      • coachr1
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 09-06-09
                        • 111

                        #12
                        Houstons offense was ranked #3 in the NFL in total offense last season. They were ranked #4 in the NFL in passing offense. I dont think their offense sucks. The last time Brady played against a Ryan coached defense in Baltimore he was 18 for 38 (47%) and was sacked three times and threw an interception. New England rushed for 90 yards total. New England won (27-24) with 44 seconds left in game on 8 yard TD pass.
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                        • RoagBettor
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                          • 01-20-09
                          • 8355

                          #13
                          I've lived in Houston for over 20 years and have followed the Texans from the day they were created. I don't care what they did last year, I'm talking about this year. The offensive line is weak and Matt Schaub is a 3rd string quarterback.

                          They won't win 7 games this year.
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                          • 2daBank
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-26-09
                            • 88966

                            #14
                            Originally posted by RoagBettor
                            I've lived in Houston for over 20 years and have followed the Texans from the day they were created. I don't care what they did last year, I'm talking about this year. The offensive line is weak and Matt Schaub is a 3rd string quarterback.

                            They won't win 7 games this year.
                            This is every1s trendy pick this year PLEASE SAY IT AINT SO
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                            • 2daBank
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-26-09
                              • 88966

                              #15
                              I HOPE you right roag it make me feel lot better bout passin on slaton in my fantasy leagues
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                              • RoagBettor
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-20-09
                                • 8355

                                #16
                                It ain't so

                                Most people I know who have followed them from Day 1 have jumped off the bandwagon and given up on the season (although that is typical for Houston sports fans).
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                                • 2daBank
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-26-09
                                  • 88966

                                  #17
                                  we always loved beating you guys at baseball THAT BEING SAID MY FAVORITE BET UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE IS FADE DA RAMS!! WASH-10
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                                  • coachr1
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 09-06-09
                                    • 111

                                    #18
                                    Schaub had the 7th best QB rating in the NFL last season. These are the top 7 top rated QB's last year

                                    1. Rivers
                                    2. Pennington
                                    3. Warner
                                    4. Brees
                                    5. P. Manning
                                    6. Rodgers
                                    7. Schaub
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                                    • RoagBettor
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-20-09
                                      • 8355

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by coachr1
                                      Schaub had the 7th best QB rating in the NFL last season. These are the top 7 top rated QB's last year

                                      1. Rivers
                                      2. Pennington
                                      3. Warner
                                      4. Brees
                                      5. P. Manning
                                      6. Rodgers
                                      7. Schaub
                                      1. He didn't play a full season
                                      2. The offensive line was better
                                      3. 2008 was an aberration
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                                      • 2daBank
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-26-09
                                        • 88966

                                        #20
                                        I THINK ILL LISTEN to the guy that sounds like he knows his team over some bs stats from last year! wow in the 6 gms schaub played he had 7th best qb rating that is important now because why? Roag how you feel bout that gm under getting kinda low line droppin under 7 does ten cover?
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                                        • RoagBettor
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                                          • 01-20-09
                                          • 8355

                                          #21
                                          I was looking hard at the Tennessee/Houston under. Tennessee's defense looked great against a good Steeler offense (certainly better than Houston's), but...we still have to take into consideration these were the first games of the season and things will change. That's why I'm putting my heavy money on college football for now.
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                                          • 2daBank
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-26-09
                                            • 88966

                                            #22
                                            do you think chris johnson will punish hou d? tomas jones did old ass tomas jones! Dont like number in this 1 at all as i could see scoring or not but either way ten secondary pretty good most da time and they should hammer the ball does hou keep close or ten cover the td?
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                                            • Dexter
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 12-24-08
                                              • 25829

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                                              I dont trust the Patriots anymore..

                                              Just lay your money on the Saints Sunday. Better team going against a team without there starting QB in Mcnabb.
                                              you think the saints are a better team then the eagles? i dont know about that. last year the eagles gave up 18ppg while the saints gave up 25. not much has changed after 1 week in 2009.
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                                              • Dexter
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                                                • 12-24-08
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by RoagBettor
                                                Houston's offense sucks. You can't judge the Jets based upon the Houston game.
                                                houstons offense sucks? this will be one of the more high powered offenses again in 2009.

                                                rex ryan is a defensive mastermind, and i truly feel the jets defense was the difference sunday - not that the texans offense sucks.
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                                                • Dexter
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                                                  • 12-24-08
                                                  • 25829

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by RoagBettor
                                                  I've lived in Houston for over 20 years and have followed the Texans from the day they were created. I don't care what they did last year, I'm talking about this year. The offensive line is weak and Matt Schaub is a 3rd string quarterback.

                                                  They won't win 7 games this year.
                                                  lol - ok roag, now i see you're either a bitter texans fan or just a local texans hater

                                                  you're out of your mind if you think this is a bad offense.

                                                  matt schaub will easily be a top 5 qb in the nfl if he plays 16 games. 3rd stringer? lol
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                                                  • coachr1
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 09-06-09
                                                    • 111

                                                    #26
                                                    what criteria do you use to determine whether a team has a good offense. you have to use some kind of statistic to back up your point of view or it doesnt stand up. i just chose the fact that houston had the #3 ranked offense in the NFL to back up my statement that they were good. If houston continues to play the way they did sunday then I will agree that their offense sucks because sunday they did suck. I just believe the jets had a lot to do with that because ryan has a track record of having good defenses and i believe he has brought that to new york with him.

                                                    by the way Schaub played in 11 games last season and i used the QB rating because it takes into account a wide variety of statistics. if u dont like the qb rating then thats fine. I just think it takes a pretty talented QB to be rated that high. i think if he really sucked he would not have the stats he had.
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                                                    • RoagBettor
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 01-20-09
                                                      • 8355

                                                      #27
                                                      LOL - OK I might be a little bitter
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                                                      • Dexter
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                                                        • 12-24-08
                                                        • 25829

                                                        #28
                                                        not that i think it would have made a huge deal, but walter was out sunday.

                                                        listen, week 1 of the nfl, it makes sense that a good defense could shut down a good offense.

                                                        ryan is going to make a huge difference with that team. i had the jets not being good this year cause i didnt trust sanchez as a rookie - we'll see...
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                                                        • TheLock
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                                                          • 04-06-08
                                                          • 14427

                                                          #29
                                                          I'm on Jets
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                                                          • cgars1
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 01-18-09
                                                            • 657

                                                            #30
                                                            I posted this in another thread...guys monster lock is on the PATS

                                                            "I haven't completely capped this one yet because of MLB and CFB comes first, NFL will start on Thursday for me,but I have looked at the board and have some opinions...this game I can't agree, this doesn't mean I won't lay it down on the Pats but let's look at this for what it is...what makes you think they will be able to run the ball on the Jets...the Pats effectiveness against the Bills...who was the leader rusher for the Pats? Maroney...how many yards...32 yards...wow that's impressive! Who is the left offensive tackle? The left tackle is your anchor and tells you everything about the O line...Matt Light 9 year veteran who just didn't get it done...the O line is weak, small and slow. They got banged around and couldn't establish the run. Brady all he had was dip and dunk passes and couldn't extend the field. You don't think the rest of the NFL didn't go to school on the NY Giants defense on how to play the Pats?

                                                            The Pats defense stinks!!!! What kind of corner play was that...horrible! No Mayo no linebackers, no Pryor, no Seymour

                                                            I do believe this win straight up but lost ATS will help the public and the Jets performance week one will give an attractive line...this is a conference game early.

                                                            whta do we know...the Pats will score points, they have to outscore there opponent because of the horrid D they are going to play this year...so what does that mean...OVERS!!!!"
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                                                            • Vincepcion
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 02-07-09
                                                              • 834

                                                              #31
                                                              Have the Jets at +6.5, hoping it pulls through
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                                                              • Totolover1409
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 06-14-08
                                                                • 1400

                                                                #32
                                                                Eagles still have a great QB even if McNabb isnt starting. Jeff Garcia was been 4-1 in his last 5 games with Philly
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                                                                • PocketRocket
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 08-31-09
                                                                  • 160

                                                                  #33
                                                                  lay the points with the pats they win this one by atleast a td
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                                                                  • n1co35
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 07-13-09
                                                                    • 471

                                                                    #34
                                                                    hmmmm if the line opened at -6.5 and now its down to -3.5 and the public is on the PATs
                                                                    is this reverse line movement?? just curious...
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                                                                    • slacker00
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                                                                      • 10-06-05
                                                                      • 12262

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I like the Pats, but I'd prefer the ML. I can totally see a late FG icing the game for the Pats.

                                                                      It looks like the Pats are still finding their identity early this year. The Jets have found theirs and surprise, Rex Ryan, it's defense. I'm impressed with the Jets going into Houston and winning convincingly, I was all over the Texans. But the Pats are a different team, even if they are in a tailspin. Belichick will right this ship!

                                                                      BTW, Belichick eats young QBs, check out his ATS numbers. I did a study last year and it's crazy how Belichick's ATS correlates with the experience of the opposing QB. The younger the QB, the better the Belichick's defense performs.

                                                                      This should make for a very interesting match up! I like the under also.
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