WEEK 17 injuries MUST SEE

[OldBill]

JETS +13 (Flatlined )
C. McGovern OL I-R - Knee
( Mon, Dec 27)
T. Wesco TE I-R - Knee
( Mon, Dec 27)
B. Hall CB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
T. Kroft TE Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
Q. Williams DL Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sun, Dec 26)
R. Griffin TE I-R - Knee
( Fri, Dec 24)
J. Flacco QB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
L. Duvernay-Tardif G Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
K. Yeboah TE Out indefinitely - Illness
( Wed, Dec 22)
J. Marshall DT Out indefinitely - Illness
( Wed, Dec 22)
A. Davis S Out indefinitely - Illness
( Wed, Dec 22)
A. Vera-Tucker OL Out indefinitely - Illness
( Tue, Dec 21)
M. Carter II CB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Tue, Dec 21)
M. Becton T Early Jan - Knee
( Tue, Dec 21) 14 out plus others out eraly dec = 18 out but Jets defnse ranked 32nd in league

so Brady should win huge again but def be aware they have div game left vs loser panthers so these final two games mean nothing to Tampa they could just rest players and lose both win div and 2nd seed in nfc

cards rams 3rd seed

BUCS

M. Evans WR Out indefinitely - Hamstring
( Mon, Dec 27)
S. Barrett LB Out indefinitely - Knee
( Mon, Dec 27)
R. Nunez-Roches DL Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
L. Fournette RB Out indefinitely - Hamstring
( Thu, Dec 23)
L. David LB Out indefinitely - Foot
( Thu, Dec 23)
J. Darden WR Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
P. O'Connor DL Out indefinitely - Knee
( Tue, Dec 21)
C. Godwin WR I-R - Knee
( Tue, Dec 21)

DOLPHINS +3.5
S. Kindley G Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
A. Wilson WR Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sun, Dec 26)
D. Riley LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
G. Mancz G Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
C. Carter TE Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
R. Jones G Out indefinitely - Illness
( Wed, Dec 22)

Titans (flatlined)
C. Farley CB I-R - Knee
( Mon, Dec 27)
B. Skrine DB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
B. Dupree LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
N. Westbrook-Ikhine WR Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
J. Jones WR Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
N. Davis G Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sat, Dec 25)
T. Lewan T Out indefinitely - Back
( Fri, Dec 24)
K. Lamm T Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)


WASH +4 6-9 out of it
T. Larsen C I-R - Achilles
( Mon, Dec 27)
J. Slye K Out indefinitely - Hamstring
( Sat, Dec 25)
D. Wise DT Out indefinitely - Knee
( Fri, Dec 24)
N. Orchard DE Out indefinitely - Illness
( Fri, Dec 24)
D. Everett S Out indefinitely - Undisclosed
( Fri, Dec 24)
J. McKissic RB Out indefinitely - Concussion
( Tue, Dec 21)

Eagles 8-7 must win doubt that they win vs cowboys home but could do it revenge blowout loss @ dallas early season
T. Jackson DE Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
A. Chachere DB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
D. Barnett DE Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
S. Bradley LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sat, Dec 25)
R. Kerrigan DE Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
L. Clark T Out indefinitely - Illness
( Wed, Dec 22)

BENGALS +5.5
D. Phillips CB Out indefinitely - Shoulder
( Mon, Dec 27)
B. Allen QB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
D. Reader DT Out indefinitely - Knee
( Sat, Dec 25)
W. Ray LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sat, Dec 25)
M. Thomas S Out indefinitely - Illness
( Fri, Dec 24)
J. Bachie LB I-R - Knee
( Tue, Dec 21)

CHIEFS
C. Edwards-Helaire RB Doub Sun - Collarbone eeek
( Tue, Dec 28)
N. Bolton LB Ques Sun - Undisclosed
( Tue, Dec 28)
L. Niang T Ques Sun - Undisclosed
( Tue, Dec 28)
T. Kelce TE Out indefinitely - Illness omg again
( Sat, Dec 25)
T. Townsend P Out indefinitely - Illness
( Fri, Dec 24)
M. Remmers OL Out indefinitely - Knee
( Wed, Dec 22)
A. Watts S Out indefinitely - Illness
( Tue, Dec 21)
R. Fenton CB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Tue, Dec 21)

COLTS -6.5 but -1.5 at fanduel Draft kings shows -6.5
C. Wentz QB Out indefinitely - Illness QB is Jacob Eason #17 played 1 game for colts
( Tue, Dec 28) NO WAY OMG
B. Smith T Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
M. Jefferson LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
T. Carrie CB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
J. Addae DB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
M. Mack RB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
K. Willis S Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sat, Dec 25)
Z. Pascal WR Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sat, Dec 25)
D. Leonard LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sat, Dec 25)
Q. Nelson C Out indefinitely - Illness
( Fri, Dec 24)
M. Glowinski G Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
K. Turay DE Out indefinitely - Illness
( Wed, Dec 22)
R. Ya-Sin CB Out indefinitely - Illness
13 out
Raiders miles traveled is 1590 and 3 hrs 10mins time Raiders in hunt for WC 8-7 now have div rival Chargers up next jan 9th who are also 8-7 so if chargers lose this week then raiders can get wc if lose 9-8 chargers 8-9 out of it
K. Wright LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
D. Philon DT Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
D. Perryman LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
P. Onwuasor LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
C. Littleton LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
C. Hayward Jr. CB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
M. Mariota QB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sun, Dec 26)
B. Edwards WR Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sun, Dec 26)
J. Abram S I-R - Shoulder
( Sat, Dec 25)
R. Incognito G I-R - Calf
( Fri, Dec 24)
A. Ingold FB I-R - Knee
( Fri, Dec 24)
R. Teamer Jr. S Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
J. Eluemunor T Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
B. Facyson CB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Wed, Dec 22)

14 out

Bears -6 remember seattle has 32nd ranked defnse BUT defnse is thier key 9th in toital yards 4th against the pass

A. Hicks DL Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
J. Horsted TE Out indefinitely - Undisclosed
( Wed, Dec 22)
D. Houston-Carson DB I-R - Arm
( Mon, Dec 20)
2 others been out earleir DEC

Giants but thier offense is ranked 30th total yards passing yrads 24th
J. Love S Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
M. Peart T I-R - Knee
( Mon, Dec 27)
N. Solder T Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sat, Dec 25)
D. Shelton DT Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sat, Dec 25)
S. Shepard WR I-R - Achilles
( Mon, Dec 20)
D. Jones QB I-R - Neck
( Mon, Dec 20)
K. Crossen DB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 20)
6 others out eraly dec

Bills -14.5 LOL Jets next BUT rember teams who lose to Tampa never won a S B Bills and Patriots both lost

C. Lewis CB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
I. Boettger G I-R - Achilles
( Mon, Dec 27)
T. White CB I-R - Knee
( Fri, Dec 24)
C. Ford OL Out indefinitely - Illness
( Fri, Dec 24)
G. Davis WR Out indefinitely - Illness
( Fri, Dec 24)
C. Beasley WR Out indefinitely - Illness
( Tue, Dec 21)
A. Epenesa DE Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 20)

Falcons
T. Sharpe WR Out indefinitely - Foot
( Mon, Dec 27)
J. Vaughters LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
B. Copeland LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
T. Davison DL Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sun, Dec 26)
M. Davidson DL Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
E. Harris S I-R - Pectoral
( Tue, Dec 21)
E. Ellerbee LB Out indefinitely - Knee
( Mon, Dec 20)

Ravens +3.5

J. Hill RB I-R - Knee
( Sat, Dec 25)
T. Huntley QB Out indefinitely - Illness OUCH Jackson plays on bum ankle
( Sat, Dec 25)
J. Oliver TE Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
K. Welch LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Wed, Dec 22)
G. Stone S Out indefinitely - Illness
( Wed, Dec 22)
J. Madubuike DT Out indefinitely - Illness
( Wed, Dec 22)
C. Board LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Wed, Dec 22)
J. Houston DE Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 20)

RAMS
E. Jones LB Out indefinitely - Ankle
( Mon, Dec 27)
D. Henderson Jr. RB Out indefinitely - Knee
( Mon, Dec 27)
A. Whitworth OL Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sat, Dec 25)
S. Joseph-Day DL Out indefinitely - Pectoral
( Wed, Dec 22)
T. Anchrum Jr. OL Out indefinitely - Knee
( Mon, Dec 20)
R. Rochell DB Out indefinitely - Chest
( Mon, Dec 20)
J. Noteboom OL Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sat, Dec 18)

49ers - 12.5 HUGE Lookahead to Rams
J. Garoppolo QB Doub Sun - Thumb OMG back up is Trey Lance 5 games 3 td's 1 int
( Tue, Dec 28)
M. Wishnowsky P Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
A. Al-Shaair LB Out indefinitely - Knee
( Mon, Dec 27)
T. Moore DB I-R - Achilles
( Mon, Dec 20)
( Tue, Dec 28)
M. Wishnowsky P Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
A. Al-Shaair LB Out indefinitely - Knee
( Mon, Dec 27)
T. Moore DB I-R - Achilles
( Mon, Dec 20)

Texans

N. Hewitt LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
D. Johnson RB Out indefinitely - Quadricep
( Mon, Dec 27)
J. Jenkins DL Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
J. Britt OL Out indefinitely - Knee
( Thu, Dec 23)
R. Lopez DL Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
L. Johnson Jr. DB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
E. Murray DB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
E. Wilson LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Wed, Dec 22)
K. Fairbairn K Out indefinitely - Illness
( Wed, Dec 22)
J. Driskel QB Out indefinitely - Collarbone
( Wed, Dec 22)
J. Johnson DL Out indefinitely - Illness
( Tue, Dec 21)
V. Taylor DL Early Jan - Ankle
( Tue, Dec 21)
L. Tunsil OL Early Jan - Thumb
( Tue, Dec 21)

Chargers -5.5
S. Kelemete OL Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
A. Gilman S Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
N. Adderley S Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
C. Harris Jr. CB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
M. Davis CB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sun, Dec 26)
D. Parham Jr. TE Out indefinitely - Concussion
( Sat, Dec 25)
M. Williams WR Out indefinitely - Heel
( Sat, Dec 25)
J. Jones DT Out indefinitely - Illness
( Fri, Dec 24)


been out
J. Guyton WR Out indefinitely - Illness
( Wed, Dec 22)
C. Daniel QB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Tue, Dec 21)
C. Rumph II LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 20)
A. Roberts WR Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 20)
T. Marshall S Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 20)
K. Hall DB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 20)
C. Linsley C Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 20)
J. Bosa DE Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 20)

Broncos

A. Mintze LB Out indefinitely - Hamstring
( Mon, Dec 27)
M. Purcell NT Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
L. Cushenberry III C Out indefinitely - Illness OUCH
( Thu, Dec 23)
A. Beck FB Out indefinitely - Elbow
( Tue, Dec 21)
J. Johnson S Out indefinitely - Quadricep
( Tue, Dec 21)

SAINTS -7

D. Harris WR Out indefinitely - Suspension
( Tue, Dec 28)
L. Young T Out indefinitely - Foot
( Mon, Dec 27)
K. Alexander LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sun, Dec 26)
C. Granderson DE Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sat, Dec 25)
D. Washington RB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Fri, Dec 24)
R. Ramczyk T Out indefinitely - Knee
( Fri, Dec 24)
J. Gray DB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Fri, Dec 24)
D. Davis LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Fri, Dec 24)
C. Ringo DE Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
J. Mills T Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
M. Jenkins S Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
J. Holmes DE Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
J. Heath DB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
K. Elliss LB Out indefinitely - Hamstring
( Thu, Dec 23)
J. Carpenter T Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
T. Siemian QB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
T. Hill QB Out indefinitely - Illness nahh gotta be back claer protocols
( Thu, Dec 23)
A. Trautman TE Out indefinitely - Illness
( Wed, Dec 22)

Panthers
M. Paradis C I-R - Knee OUCH
( Mon, Dec 27)
D. Nixon DT Out indefinitely - Knee
( Mon, Dec 27)
P. Hoskins DT Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
M. Haynes DE Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
S. Thompson LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
B. Zylstra WR Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
B. Burns DE Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
R. Melvin CB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sat, Dec 25)
D. Daley G Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
P. Elflein G Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
Z. Gonzalez K Out indefinitely - Quadricep
( Wed, Dec 22)
S. Franklin S Out indefinitely - Illness
( Wed, Dec 22)
A. Bouye CB Out indefinitely - Foot
( Tue, Dec 21)

COWBOYS -5.5
F. Bernard LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
S. Fehoko WR Out indefinitely - Illness
( Fri, Dec 24)
J. Lewis CB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Fri, Dec 24)
M. Hooker DB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)

Cardinals

S. Harlow OL Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
M. Golden LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
A. Lee P Out indefinitely - Illness
( Wed, Dec 22)
D. Hopkins WR Late Jan - Knee late Jan lol ya wont even be playing
( Sat, Dec 18)

SEAHAWKS -9 X -7

L. Collier DE Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
B. Austin DB Out indefinitely - Hip
( Sat, Dec 25)
J. Jones T Out indefinitely - Back
( Thu, Dec 23)
W. Dissly TE Out indefinitely - Illness
( Wed, Dec 22)

LIONS
J. Reynolds WR Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
A. Oruwariye CB Out indefinitely - Thumb
( Sat, Dec 25)
T. Benson WR Out indefinitely - Knee
( Thu, Dec 23)
M. Nelson T Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 20)
Q. Cephus WR I-R - Shoulder
( Mon, Dec 20)
A. Anzalone LB I-R - Shoulder
( Mon, Dec 20)
I presume Goff is playing one sec let me check

Packers -7

T. Summers LB Out indefinitely - Hamstring
( Mon, Dec 27)
T. Galeai LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
B. Braden G Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
A. Rodgers WR Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
K. King CB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sat, Dec 25)
S. Jean-Charles CB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sat, Dec 25)
M. Taylor WR Out indefinitely - Shoulder
( Fri, Dec 24)
C. Rivers LB I-R - Knee
( Fri, Dec 24)
M. Valdes-Scantling WR Out indefinitely - Illness
( Tue, Dec 21)

Vikings
O. Udoh T Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
R. Hill T Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sun, Dec 26)
S. Mannion QB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sun, Dec 26)
M. Cole OL Out indefinitely - Elbow
( Fri, Dec 24)
D. Cook RB Out indefinitely - Illness OUCH
( Thu, Dec 23)


MNF EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Steelers +3 home
A. McFarland Jr. RB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Thu, Dec 23)
I. Buggs DE Out indefinitely - Ankle
( Thu, Dec 23)
D. Bush LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Wed, Dec 22)
Z. Banner T Out indefinitely - Illness
( Wed, Dec 22)
M. Allen LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Wed, Dec 22)

Browns
E. Lee LB Out indefinitely - Illness
( Mon, Dec 27)
D. Forbes G Out indefinitely - Knee
( Mon, Dec 27)
A. Taylor T Out indefinitely - Illness
( Sun, Dec 26)
C. McLaughlin K Out indefinitely - Illness
( Fri, Dec 24)
J. Elliott DT Out indefinitely - Illness
( Fri, Dec 24)
J. Tretter C Out indefinitely - Knee
( Thu, Dec 23)
G. Newsome II CB Out indefinitely - Concussion
( Wed, Dec 22)
T. McKinley DE I-R - Achilles
( Tue, Dec 21)
J. Johnson III S Out indefinitely - Illness
( Tue, Dec 21)

UHHH OH BOTH RB's in


and steelers run defnse is bad

BOTH will be wtaching Ravens vs Rams and aint no afc north team playing in the Super bowl

[OldBill]

TEAMS Elinanted from playing in the Superbowl

this is facts from decades past

Teams that lost meaningful games to Buccaneers NEVER won a SB including 4 who got there Falcons was last to be there and blew a 25 pt lead in 2nd half

SO these 10 teams are NOT winning the superbowl

COLTS Cowboys Bills Falcons Panthers Patriots Eagles Giants Bears Dolphins

Teams that lost 4 weeks in row never played in superbowl

only counting possible playoff teams or had shot at playoffs

Saints 49ers Broncos WASH
teams that start out 0-2 or worse never got to superbowl exceot Giants and Cowboys

COLTS 0-3 WASH 0-2 Jets 0-3 Giants 0-3

all teams with rookie HC's NEVER got to Play in SB that never coached nfl before

1.)Arthur Smith falcons

2.) Dan Campbell LIONS

3.)David Culley TEXANS

4.)Urban Meyer JAGUARS FIRED

5.)Brandon Staley Chargers

6.)Robert Saleh JETS

7.) Nick Sirianni EAGLES

ANY team whose starting QB Got shutout even it was 2nd string NEVER Played in SB

teams shut out this year

BUCCANEERS Seattle Dolphins Jets texans 2 X and any team that losses final 3 games of year without benching starters never played in SB

since we started 16 game season NO TEAMS with a tied game ever won a SB including one who got there 49ers tied with rams s/u blown out at 1/2 time losers -4.5 vs ravens lost by 4 points trying to score TD at 5 yard line

This years teams STEELERS Lions

any team that got in as WC that played away final game of year never got to superbowl because that would be 4 straight road games with no break

these teams playing away that might be in

Steelers @ravens whoopps already out tied game

Titans @ texans toss up between them and colts

Colts @ Jaguars

Chargers @ Raiders

Saints @ Falcons

49ers @ rams

and 100% Curse of all time whose team that is on COVER of Marc lawrence Playbook

100% in SB's and Playoffs Last year it was CHIEFS This year lol Jaguars QB and HC

other years R wilson lost SB to Patriots

Brady lost SB to Eagles Eli manning out in playoffs BIG Ben out in playoffs

even if other players on cover they did not play in sb one i recall was old RB of Chargers Ladanian Tomlinson

oooo yes teams that played in london almost 100% never play in SB ONLY the Giants one year did it and they have 4 teams playing in london and i have no clue why

and so far no nfl team won 3 super bowls in a row nor college teams won 3 championships in a row ummmm they never got there ONE College team did and they lost s/u as favorite to texan longhorns

i do noyt pay attention to collge games any more the players them selves bet other side knowing they are losing

college kids on campus still booking games i think talk about inside info knowing players out of games for personal reasons

BUT Vegas sees too much money come in on certain college games game goes off board and the favorite is NOW a DOG

even in NFL 1 year GB vs denver was -6.5 guys at work i was on phone with said he has game off board i said call him back GB is now 10.5 favorite DENVER isnt playing because they are in playoffs

I had offshore sports book GB smoked them and i laughed when i saw final score

BUT one time JEFF Fisher made no mention of not playing at Colts and they were favored all starters not dressed at game Hated that MO FO after that

Tony Dungy was known for not playing final games




SO now u see why i favor superbowl matchup CHIEFS VS Packers both to win Conf CHIEFS win it with defense and sos ranked 9th Packers down at bottom now ranked 29th

Titans Ranked 32nd Buccanerrs also joing group at bottom

new thread will show current sos remaining

[OldBill]

the steelrs game reminds me of Saints they were a 11 point dog @ Tampa then return home vs Miami and now a 3 point dog vs a team that was .500 at 7-7