You are severely mentally ill if you think this is real competition

[R.P. McMurphy]

Again Yanks fan I fully agree zebras have too much power/influence. And much like America with their laws the Nfl has WAY to many rules ....so many it's ridiculous.

But they both know exactly what they are doing. Too many laws = $$$$ for a corrupt gov/legal system, like to many rules in football and overcomplicating a very simple gm just leads to more confusion, and they can always justify manipulation of a gm by saying human error.....oops:/ You are speaking to not only a true libertarian here but a Raider fan and we get fukked more than ANYONE. How else you explain same franchise leading league in penalties EVERY fukkin year practically with so many different players/coaches/philosophies? Bias or prejudice a bit ya think on leagues part?

[Yankfan4life2]

Again Yanks fan I fully agree zebras have too much power/influence. And much like America with their laws the Nfl has WAY to many rules ....so many it's ridiculous.

But they both know exactly what they are doing. Too many laws = $$$$ for a corrupt gov/legal system, like to many rules in football and overcomplicating a very simple gm just leads to more confusion, and they can always justify manipulation of a gm by saying human error.....oops:/ You are speaking to not only a true libertarian here but a Raider fan and we get fukked more than ANYONE. How else you explain same franchise leading league in penalties EVERY fukkin year practically with so many different players/coaches/philosophies? Bias or prejudice a bit ya think on leagues part?

100% with you on everything you said..but I had high expectations for the raiders with all the talk of them relocating prior to the season. You guys got some good calls as well like that hopkins catch in mexico city. I will say that losing carr was a huge blow that cost you guys a title shot and the nfl(espn in particular) a lot of money.

[odog11]

People get killed off for way less my dude lol and I only think superstar players are in on it. Miss me with that bullshit that it was a coincidence that both cavs/cubs come back from 3-1 and end huge sports droughts lol

Huh? I am missing the point here. You can have someone killed off by involving just one person, a person that is trained to do just that and to keep it secret, it's their job. These are football players and I just don't think you are thinking through the complexity of pulling a fix off at this level and the number of people that it would take to pull it off without a real motive to do it. Falcons win and there are actually more happy NFL fans than if the Patriots win and winning three games in a row in a series happens. You have no proof and no logical argument as to how a these "fixes" could be carried out without extreme risk of exposure or of any significant payoff/motive for those who would have to be involved to even attempt it. Your basically talking shite and complete nonsense.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Yanks fan it happens in simple yet subtle ways and it's controlled by officials. Just recent blantant examples look at Cowboys/Lions couple years back with the interference call I believe it was the zebras rigged that screwed Detroit.. Now many will say well if gee uh if da Cowboys won cause they fixed it why did they get screwed da following wk in Seattle on the Bryant catch? (Yes those people are retarded or Nfl apologists lol).

Easy answer folks the league does NOT predetermine these outcomes in my opinion but going into games the zebras know which side to favor. That for instance there was a blatant bad overturn on a call that would have put gm outta reach for Lions had the zebras done the right thing.

But business is business and fact is going into wk 2 of playoffs the goal is to elimate shit teams that don't matter for networks and leagues best interest. Sorry Lions fans but you are a shit franchise and don't mean a squat of piss to the league or networks in business terms (its fact) and Cowpokes do matter. So rather than seeing you go into Green Bay and get blown out by 30 the following wk (inevitably) they made a bad call at a very crucial point in a gm hoping it would propel Dallas to Seattle instead leading to better interest, ratings ,$$$ as usual.

Nba is also crooked as a dog's hind leg and probably make the Nfl look legit honestly lol. Take the finals this year Cavs down 3-1 with nba's poster child set to lose yet again in a final series. Naw they couldn't put him in that spot or Vegas who would have been crushed bad had Gsw won. Son in a pivotal gm 5 get Draymond suspended over some b.s. who was a very pivotal player , they get Cavs back in series eventually at 3-3 and in crucial gm 7 get a franchise face of league player (Curry) on bench in 1h with a bunch of b.s. fouls (which NEVER happens!! Guys like Kobe , Jordan, Bron, Curry don't get sat in 1h for foul trouble in finals series it's terrible for business but Bron trumped Curry in status here) to basically ensure Cavs best chance of winning.

Now I might be off on a couple slight details in those scenarioes (been drinking) but that's how the shit went down and why. And countless other examples can be found that are BLANTANTLY questioned particularly in Nfl and nba.

[trevor123698]

So the supreme court made Atlanta blow a 28-3 lead? C'mon man. I had Atlanta too but thats all on Atlanta's coaches and players. Brady and Bill are goats. Annoying but it is what it is.

LMAO. This guy doesn't understand what supreme court rulings mean.

[trevor123698]

Did you notice the offside flag on the falcons when the pats were going for the 2pt conversion? Lol its the little things.

There was no less than 7 instances from this game that were similar to this. where if they play doesn't go how they want, they find a way to redo it (or have a redo available to use) or alter what happened. And this is just from me barely watching at all. The guy who said they foreshadowed it in the 2nd quarter nailed it 100%. you would tell what was going to happen pretty much the second they got it to 28-20

[trevor123698]

The players are in on it as well. This game had the perfect ending for the nfl in a season where ratings were low. It looks like a complete meltdown on behalf of the falcons but trust it wasnt an accident. Another thing I want to point out to help in games like these is to look at the super bowl team under scrunity is usually the team that wins:

Pats= deflategate/brady suspension
Broncos= peyton used hgh(the report came out week of super bowl)
Ravens years ago= ray lewis used antler spray.
Seahawks= sherman's big mouth antics after niners win.

Precisely. They get millions of dollars and shut their mouths or they die. They are bred for this from birth

[odog11]

Precisely. They get millions of dollars and shut their mouths or they die. They are bred for this from birth

Bro, you nut jobs are making it hard for when there are real conspiracies for people to worry about. You can't be serious with this bred from birth crap? Explain in some detail with facts and logic how this actually works. Just citing seemingly improbably sporting events doesn't count.

[trevor123698]

Again Yanks fan I fully agree zebras have too much power/influence. And much like America with their laws the Nfl has WAY to many rules ....so many it's ridiculous.

But they both know exactly what they are doing. Too many laws = $$$$ for a corrupt gov/legal system, like to many rules in football and overcomplicating a very simple gm just leads to more confusion, and they can always justify manipulation of a gm by saying human error.....oops:/ You are speaking to not only a true libertarian here but a Raider fan and we get fukked more than ANYONE. How else you explain same franchise leading league in penalties EVERY fukkin year practically with so many different players/coaches/philosophies? Bias or prejudice a bit ya think on leagues part?

Actually here is the proof that the supreme court ruled that the NFL is entertainment. You pay money to see a game, not an actual competition. doesn't matter how that game is handled by the league as long as it is put forth before your eyes. This stuff is literal WWE garbage and it's legal to do so. Just like with deflategate. The ruling was the commish can do whatever he pleases. Doesn't matter if it's fair or proven.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=4822872

[trevor123698]

Bro, you nut jobs are making it hard for when there are real conspiracies for people to worry about. You can't be serious with this bred from birth crap? Explain in some detail with facts and logic how this actually works. Just citing seemingly improbably sporting events doesn't count.

So controlling the depths of people's minds with rigged entertainment isn't a massive part of why society is the way it is today..aka filled with brainwashed idiots who damn near turned america into a communist nation in 2016?

[R.P. McMurphy]

Well Trevor the league will cannot legitimately be tried in supreme court ever for fixing. And know this as they are regarded as "entertainment" just as WWE. Fbi actually had files investigating the league into the mid 80's but threw in the towel and never indicted knowing it was a lost cause in federal court.

[odog11]

So controlling the depths of people's minds with rigged entertainment isn't a massive part of why society is the way it is today..aka filled with brainwashed idiots who damn near turned america into a communist nation in 2016?

I said facts and logic, not more insane ramblings and questions.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Shit just made my last post and noticed #44 Trevor lol. Have zero clue how your rebuttal in #44 had ANYTHING to do with statement I made which you highlighted. But yeah we're on same page and know the score in regards to prosecution of league. And "laws" aside Hell the Nfl and networks have so much godd@nm $ invested in these empires. Much like our corrupt high end politicians who would ever hold them accountable and prosecute anyhow? =Nobody!

[trevor123698]

[xdodger19]

mystery babylon is jerusalem

[trevor123698]

I said facts and logic, not more insane ramblings and questions.

Holy penetrating shit. This guy doesn't know about bread and circuses. This is a strategy that is over 1000 years old and this guy is calling it in rambling? You really can't make this shit up. Well, I take that back. you grain brain sports fans have a block on your mind. I know the feeling of mental fog first hand. I spent the first 22 years of my life in the grain brain fog you're in.

Study your history clown. Bread and circuses just became bread and sports.

https://www.google.com/search?q=brea...utf-8&oe=utf-8

This is mind blowing stuff. Guy has never heard the term bread and circuses

[xdodger19]

the whore the jews rides the beast, the dumb gentile nations who do violence when the jews tell them
this is the mystery of the woman
the beast also represents the man of sin
the mark of the beast is the hexagram,
the beast is solomon or something to do with the lineage of solomon

[xdodger19]

falcons lose because they take 5 step drops for 30 yard passes on third and 1

[xdodger19]

the patriots are trump supporters, bunch of morons

[R.P. McMurphy]

Trevor I listened to the video was that you speaking or someone else? I'm well read on illuminati and world elites and 99% certain it exists just to obvious. But applying it in this gm I don't get? Yes the 1st one for 9/11 was obvious especially when whole team came outta the tunnel waving old glory like a bunch of idiots buying into the whole nationalist idiot "Merica Fukk yeah theme". Saints for Katrina, Manning last season , and other scenarios I get.

And I felt so uncomfortable when old man Bush was wheeled out to cheers. Really are people even if you are a patriotic sheep that fukking stupid? Does nobody understand title of "President" aside which ultimately is SO overrated and worshipped. His family history going back to his father helping Hitler's rise is filled with corruption and lies? Absolutely disgusted by any applause given to that scum. I hoped in that moment for a meteor to drop on his scum fukking head and honestly all those who applauded a known terrorist.

But pregame everyone saying Brady best ever and would win blah blah? funny cause those talks been going on for a decade with Beli/Brady being annointed best ever. And for past couple weeks most or least half the talking head shills on espn and elsewhere had picked Atl to win.

[xdodger19]

pocketsofthe future is a newager
some of his points were legit even though new age is garbage
yes the trotted at old bush to mock the american morons,
Americans dont care the govt did 911, they lie to the whole world
americans are just dumb morons who take job as pig or soldier
so they can torture and kill people for money
then they can eat hamburgers
americans are scum

[xdodger19]

old bush was at the kennedy assasination

[R.P. McMurphy]

Yep he was Cia and lied about that as well. Most I think don't understand and believe CIA is part of our gov. Truth is they a private corporation or ( terrorist organization truthfully) that works for our govt protecting big $ interests.

[trevor123698]

Yep he was Cia and lied about that as well. Most I think don't understand and believe CIA is part of our gov. Truth is they a private corporation or ( terrorist organization truthfully) that works for our govt protecting big $ interests.

Most people think the Secret Service is our government. they are a foreign entity filed in law as part of the United Nations. You people have no freaking clue what has really happened on the legal side. The real "revolution" will be in the courts which will go from terrifying to the actual devil real soon if the liberals can ram through the nominations in local and state governments that they want.

[trevor123698]

the patriots are trump supporters, bunch of morons

The moron shows himself. the opposite of a Trump supporter is one who does not want the rule of Law and instead the rule of the jungle. aka socialism. Idk who is feeding you your lies but you gotta drop em. Subscribe to Jon Rappoport for one day and if you are not a complete moron after that day then you might have a shot. If not, idk what to say.

[trevor123698]

mystery babylon is jerusalem

This is an insane answer for that. "And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."

[trevor123698]

on that piece of scripture alone it is foolish to not call the NFL and abomination of the earth. It fits all categories. A small cog, yes, but one, nonetheless

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

Tin foil sales up.

[odog11]

Holy penetrating shit. This guy doesn't know about bread and circuses. This is a strategy that is over 1000 years old and this guy is calling it in rambling? You really can't make this shit up. Well, I take that back. you grain brain sports fans have a block on your mind. I know the feeling of mental fog first hand. I spent the first 22 years of my life in the grain brain fog you're in.

Study your history clown. Bread and circuses just became bread and sports.

https://www.google.com/search?q=brea...utf-8&oe=utf-8

This is mind blowing stuff. Guy has never heard the term bread and circuses

The phrase is over 2,000 years old and and the circuses referred to were mainly sports. I was a history major at a fairly prestigious University and studied Latin for 4 years. Anyway, sports can be entertainment without being rigged, so what's your point? You still have presented no facts or a logical arguement. You are in a paranoid delusional fog, more or less meds probably called for.

[DOM-Ganador]

Nba is also crooked as a dog's hind leg and probably make the Nfl look legit honestly lol. Take the finals this year Cavs down 3-1 with nba's poster child set to lose yet again in a final series. Naw they couldn't put him in that spot or Vegas who would have been crushed bad had Gsw won. Son in a pivotal gm 5 get Draymond suspended over some b.s. who was a very pivotal player , they get Cavs back in series eventually at 3-3 and in crucial gm 7 get a franchise face of league player (Curry) on bench in 1h with a bunch of b.s. fouls (which NEVER happens!! Guys like Kobe , Jordan, Bron, Curry don't get sat in 1h for foul trouble in finals series it's terrible for business but Bron trumped Curry in status here) to basically ensure Cavs best chance of winning.

Now I might be off on a couple slight details in those scenarioes (been drinking) but that's how the shit went down and why. And countless other examples can be found that are BLANTANTLY questioned particularly in Nfl and nba.

Last edited by R.P. McMurphy; 02-06-17 at 01:18 AM.


Randall my man. I appreciate many of your posts. But my one question that nobody can ever answer about these conspiracy/FIX theories is:

HOW the fukk can it be kept secret ? Impossible.

Unless their family is being held hostage, why would a professional player or coach open themselves up to
such scrutiny?
As far as refs, sure, any individual ref could possibly be involved in a bit of shaving. But the powers that be are certainly not sending secret memos to refs to influence any game outcomes. Again, would be impossible to not get out in this day and age.

[Notorious_Donk]

So the NFL has been rigged for years and there are ZERO whistleblowers? Come on