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  • Fatal1ty
    SBR High Roller
    • 04-16-11
    • 127

    #1
    Pitt/Den?
    My gut tells me at the very minimum Pitt covers, due in large part to eventual Manning meltdown, refusal to pull him until it's too late.
    Seems crazy, given Den D, but still...
  • BigdaddyQH
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-13-09
    • 19530

    #2
    How is Pitt going to score? Big Ben can't throw a ball over 20 yards and they have no running game.
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    • Fatal1ty
      SBR High Roller
      • 04-16-11
      • 127

      #3
      And yet the lines are basically -7 +100 meaning oddsmakers are saying Den MIGHT win by 7. Shouldn't they win by 17? Vegas not in habit of handing out stupid lines and losing tons of cash.
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      • POOLSIDE
        SBR MVP
        • 09-06-14
        • 2839

        #4
        Originally posted by Fatal1ty
        And yet the lines are basically -7 +100 meaning oddsmakers are saying Den MIGHT win by 7. Shouldn't they win by 17? Vegas not in habit of handing out stupid lines and losing tons of cash.
        HAHAHHAHAHAHHA what
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        • Fatal1ty
          SBR High Roller
          • 04-16-11
          • 127

          #5
          Originally posted by POOLSIDE
          HAHAHHAHAHAHHA what
          Do you know how to read a Vegas line? It's a fair question given your reply.
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          • POOLSIDE
            SBR MVP
            • 09-06-14
            • 2839

            #6
            Originally posted by Fatal1ty
            Do you know how to read a Vegas line? It's a fair question given your reply.
            This is too good. No, I don't. Please explain it to me.
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            • slacker00
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 10-06-05
              • 12262

              #7
              Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
              How is Pitt going to score? Big Ben can't throw a ball over 20 yards and they have no running game.
              Ironic, that's been the story about Peyton and Denver all year.

              PIT ran the ball fine @Cincy last week. We don't know how effective Ben's arm can be. Live bet is the answer.
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              • Fatal1ty
                SBR High Roller
                • 04-16-11
                • 127

                #8
                Originally posted by POOLSIDE
                This is too good. No, I don't. Please explain it to me.
                Gonna write this in easy to understand words. Den is barely 7 pt fave, not 8+. Strange, given Pitt injuries, Den having 2 starting QBs and a stout D, not to mention home field. Yeah Manning could shit the bed, but you think Pitt's gonna run all over Den D?
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                • StackinGreen
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-09-10
                  • 12140

                  #9
                  The real question is "Does the market actually have a grasp on the injury situation"? I believe the answer is NO and therefore, I am staying away from the line.
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                  • frugalgambler
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-30-13
                    • 3418

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Fatal1ty
                    Gonna write this in easy to understand words. Den is barely 7 pt fave, not 8+. Strange, given Pitt injuries, Den having 2 starting QBs and a stout D, not to mention home field. Yeah Manning could shit the bed, but you think Pitt's gonna run all over Den D?
                    The main reasons the Broncos are only a TD fav. are a) Pitt injuries are not confirmed, b) Lots of punters hate to back Manning in playoffs, and c) home field means sh.t. So what is so strange about the line ? This is playoffs after all, very rarely you'd see a line above a TD. Line-reader, my as.s.
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                    • JayDr3am
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 05-06-14
                      • 18260

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Fatal1ty
                      My gut tells me at the very minimum Pitt covers, due in large part to eventual Manning meltdown, refusal to pull him until it's too late.
                      Seems crazy, given Den D, but still...
                      if big ben is as hurt as he states.. I don't see him takin the top off.. if Denver can play the check down plays well, Denver should be in good shape..
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                      • POOLSIDE
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-06-14
                        • 2839

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Fatal1ty
                        Gonna write this in easy to understand words. Den is barely 7 pt fave, not 8+. Strange, given Pitt injuries, Den having 2 starting QBs and a stout D, not to mention home field. Yeah Manning could shit the bed, but you think Pitt's gonna run all over Den D?
                        HAHAHHAHAHAHHAA tell me more
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                        • StackinGreen
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 10-09-10
                          • 12140

                          #13
                          What is the basis of your argument with Fatal, POOL?
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                          • POOLSIDE
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-06-14
                            • 2839

                            #14
                            Originally posted by StackinGreen
                            What is the basis of your argument with Fatal, POOL?
                            Not arguing. Just waiting for him to drop some more knowledge. I never knew that the line tells us exactly how the game will play out and who will cover. It's fascinating.
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                            • StackinGreen
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-09-10
                              • 12140

                              #15
                              This line makes the least sense in terms of management that I've maybe ever seen. No total, ever (don't even see one now really), but a clear 2.5 to 3 days of Denver at -5.5 to -7, then off the board for full 2 days or more ... that yelled "no one really knows what's going on" and in the back of my mind I think we all know Big Ben won't be 100% and that Brown was like 90% or higher likelihood of not playing ...

                              I'm honestly thinking of Pitt because I think if the points are high enough, and they will continue to rise, it might be worth it to go against Noodle
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                              • POOLSIDE
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-06-14
                                • 2839

                                #16
                                I took Denver at -6. Not sure how a Steelers team without Antonio, without Bell, without Deangelo, and possibly without Ben (or with a less effective version of him) stays within six of any playoff team. Healthy, these guys lost to Baltimore in a must win game, looked shaky against Cleveland in a must win game, and needed a mental breakdown by Cincy to win that game. For me, it's over. They got very unlucky with these injuries, but it's over. I'm not sure how you talk yourself into Landry Jones keeping this game within a touchdown.
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                                • Albabbie
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 11-02-15
                                  • 242

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by POOLSIDE
                                  I took Denver at -6. Not sure how a Steelers team without Antonio, without Bell, without Deangelo, and possibly without Ben (or with a less effective version of him) stays within six of any playoff team. Healthy, these guys lost to Baltimore in a must win game, looked shaky against Cleveland in a must win game, and needed a mental breakdown by Cincy to win that game. For me, it's over. They got very unlucky with these injuries, but it's over. I'm not sure how you talk yourself into Landry Jones keeping this game within a touchdown.
                                  I agree with you, but remember when Pittsburgh beat Arizona w/ Vick and Landry Jones earlier this year? I do, because I lost a shitload of money on that game lol.
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                                  • jizay
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 08-07-09
                                    • 975

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by POOLSIDE
                                    I took Denver at -6. Not sure how a Steelers team without Antonio, without Bell, without Deangelo, and possibly without Ben (or with a less effective version of him) stays within six of any playoff team. Healthy, these guys lost to Baltimore in a must win game, looked shaky against Cleveland in a must win game, and needed a mental breakdown by Cincy to win that game. For me, it's over. They got very unlucky with these injuries, but it's over. I'm not sure how you talk yourself into Landry Jones keeping this game within a touchdown.
                                    A lot of your posts biased against Pittsburgh. You down-talked them a ton going into the Cincy game. They "needed" a mental breakdown only after a comeback that was spurred by Big Ben going out of the game. They owned Cincy badly for 3 quarters in their joint until that happened. Still outgained them handily for the game. And of course, they handed Cincy quite a bit in the mental breakdown dept. themselves, being penalized for more than 140 yards, way more penalties than Cincy. They were and are simply better than Cincy, at least with AJ at the helm, and they proved it by beating them in Cincy twice in five weeks.

                                    That said, I agree with you about this week. With no Brown and Ben limited, they will need a minor miracle. -6 is a good line to have.
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                                    • DavieVegas
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 12-02-11
                                      • 838

                                      #19
                                      Denver is gonna kill them. Hurt Roth and no brown? I dont see how steelers win here or keep it close. They have no defense.
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                                      • MRG0112
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 12-17-15
                                        • 55

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Fatal1ty
                                        My gut tells me at the very minimum Pitt covers, due in large part to eventual Manning meltdown, refusal to pull him until it's too late.
                                        Seems crazy, given Den D, but still...
                                        My experience taking PIT tells me they never cover when I think they will.
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                                        • POOLSIDE
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-06-14
                                          • 2839

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by MRG0112
                                          My experience taking PIT tells me they never cover when I think they will.
                                          Well I hope you think they cover
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                                          • paco
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 05-07-09
                                            • 62873

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                            How is Pitt going to score? Big Ben can't throw a ball over 20 yards and they have no running game.
                                            Lol this guy. Big Ben with 3 plays over 40 yards already
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                                            • StackinGreen
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 10-09-10
                                              • 12140

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by paco
                                              Lol this guy. Big Ben with 3 plays over 40 yards already
                                              I quoted him 2 days back for future reference. Such a square opinion, yet this guy acts like everyone else is his football inferior

                                              Needless to say, he's already wrong. LOL is right
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                                              • paco
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 05-07-09
                                                • 62873

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by StackinGreen
                                                I quoted him 2 days back for future reference. Such a square opinion, yet this guy acts like everyone else is his football inferior

                                                Needless to say, he's already wrong. LOL is right
                                                He doesn't have a pot to pee in. My juice on wagers are more then his bets.
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                                                • paco
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 05-07-09
                                                  • 62873

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                                  How is Pitt going to score? Big Ben can't throw a ball over 20 yards and they have no running game.
                                                  Make that 7 plays of 20+ already for big ben
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                                                  • StackinGreen
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 10-09-10
                                                    • 12140

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by paco
                                                    He doesn't have a pot to pee in. My juice on wagers are more then his bets.
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                                                    • JayDr3am
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 05-06-14
                                                      • 18260

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by POOLSIDE
                                                      I took Denver at -6. Not sure how a Steelers team without Antonio, without Bell, without Deangelo, and possibly without Ben (or with a less effective version of him) stays within six of any playoff team. Healthy, these guys lost to Baltimore in a must win game, looked shaky against Cleveland in a must win game, and needed a mental breakdown by Cincy to win that game. For me, it's over. They got very unlucky with these injuries, but it's over. I'm not sure how you talk yourself into Landry Jones keeping this game within a touchdown.
                                                      ncie job gettin'em a -6 pool! going for 2pt saved ya!
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                                                      • StackinGreen
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 10-09-10
                                                        • 12140

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by JayDr3am
                                                        ncie job gettin'em a -6 pool! going for 2pt saved ya!
                                                        I like POOLSIDE, but he should admit he was on the wrong side here. I'm glad he cashed, though

                                                        Let's face it, that was probably a luckier potential cover than Alabama. Clemson and Pitt even injured were superior.
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                                                        • StackinGreen
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 10-09-10
                                                          • 12140

                                                          #29
                                                          BigDaddyQH is like Cappinpicks ... a fraud that when he gets exposed, is nowhere to be found on the forum.
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                                                          • POOLSIDE
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-06-14
                                                            • 2839

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by StackinGreen
                                                            I like POOLSIDE, but he should admit he was on the wrong side here. I'm glad he cashed, though

                                                            Let's face it, that was probably a luckier potential cover than Alabama. Clemson and Pitt even injured were superior.
                                                            Guys, I legitimately did not watch a single snap of football this weekend. Too busy spending time with this South African bombshell. If this was a lucky cover, I'll take your word for it and be the first to admit it. But honestly, I haven't watched any of the game.
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                                                            • StackinGreen
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 10-09-10
                                                              • 12140

                                                              #31
                                                              Did you seal the deal? At least on Sunday, you didn't miss anything.
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                                                              • POOLSIDE
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 09-06-14
                                                                • 2839

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by StackinGreen
                                                                Did you seal the deal? At least on Sunday, you didn't miss anything.
                                                                Not yet. Trying to lock this one down ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

                                                                I listened to the end of the Packers game on the radio. Brutal five minutes to only have audio for.
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