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  • POOLSIDE
    SBR MVP
    • 09-06-14
    • 2839

    #1
    Broncos/Packers line movement question
    On Heritage, Broncos are currently at +3 (-115) It was +2.5 all morning.

    I want the Broncos at +3 and am trying to decide if I should lay that juice or be patient. On one hand, I feel like there will be buyback now that it's hit three. My fear is obviously that it'll jump back down to two and a half. On the other hand, I know the casinos don't want to keep jumping back and forth. Plus it's the Sunday night game, and every drunk dork is gonna love this "way too easy" Packers line.

    Anyone have any insight?
  • Jowframs
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-10-09
    • 5128

    #2
    Broncos ML
    Or leave it Alone
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    • POOLSIDE
      SBR MVP
      • 09-06-14
      • 2839

      #3
      Originally posted by Jowframs
      Broncos ML
      Or leave it Alone
      Yeah great, not what I'm asking at all.
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      • Unwritten Law
        SBR MVP
        • 10-31-13
        • 2532

        #4
        Your best chance is to wait near kickoff. The line will probably end up Green Bay -4, if it stays -3 (-115) and you'll get Broncos at -105.

        However, if it does in fact go even lower to say Green Bay -1.5 you'll definitely be getting Broncos +1.5 (-120/-115).
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        • POOLSIDE
          SBR MVP
          • 09-06-14
          • 2839

          #5
          Originally posted by Unwritten Law
          Your best chance is to wait near kickoff. The line will probably end up Green Bay -4, if it stays -3 (-115) and you'll get Broncos at -105.

          However, if it does in fact go even lower to say Green Bay -1.5 you'll definitely be getting Broncos +1.5 (-120/-115).

          Right, I want +3. If I felt comfortable at +1.5, I'd take the ML now and maybe again at kickoff if it inflates.
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          • Jowframs
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-10-09
            • 5128

            #6
            Originally posted by POOLSIDE
            Yeah great, not what I'm asking at all.
            I just don't think it comes down to the spread
            Pick the winner
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            • Unwritten Law
              SBR MVP
              • 10-31-13
              • 2532

              #7
              I could really see Green Bay winning by the slightest of margin if they were to win. I don't think they'll completely dominate or win by more than 7, max. This could go right down to the wire with a two-point conversion or final play (FG) with the game on the line. If you decide to go with Denver, I think you should get all the points you can get.
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              • POOLSIDE
                SBR MVP
                • 09-06-14
                • 2839

                #8
                Originally posted by Unwritten Law
                I could really see Green Bay winning by the slightest of margin if they were to win. I don't think they'll completely dominate or win by more than 7, max. This could go right down to the wire with a two-point conversion or final play (FG) with the game on the line. If you decide to go with Denver, I think you should get all the points you can get.
                100% agree.
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                • POOLSIDE
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-06-14
                  • 2839

                  #9
                  It's back down to +2.5 this morning. Ugh.
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                  • 44 Mag
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 10-14-13
                    • 34490

                    #10
                    I see 4-5 different "houses" have it at -3 GB. Don't know which one you use. GL
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                    • Eddy Munny
                      Benched
                      • 08-13-13
                      • 15769

                      #11
                      I'll be betting Broncos +3.5 through a local.

                      Love getting the best defense, at home, with points.

                      As for the offense... I'm not that worried about it. Peyton will find a way. Should be a close game, but the value is with Denver.
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                      • LittleLarryY
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 09-13-11
                        • 122

                        #12
                        If you liked 3 that much more than 2.5 what did the vig matter?

                        Couldn't you buy it up to 3? Of course the juice could catch up to you in that case.

                        Either way, seems to me that you take the best spread/juice combo you can, take ML, or pass on the game.

                        As for me, it is a pass but lean to Packers ML.
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                        • POOLSIDE
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-06-14
                          • 2839

                          #13
                          Originally posted by LittleLarryY
                          If you liked 3 that much more than 2.5 what did the vig matter?

                          Couldn't you buy it up to 3? Of course the juice could catch up to you in that case.

                          Either way, seems to me that you take the best spread/juice combo you can, take ML, or pass on the game.

                          As for me, it is a pass but lean to Packers ML.
                          Sure, but I'd rather not lay -115 if I can wait for -105. I'm not sure why this is difficult to understand.
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                          • LittleLarryY
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 09-13-11
                            • 122

                            #14
                            Originally posted by POOLSIDE
                            Sure, but I'd rather not lay -115 if I can wait for -105. I'm not sure why this is difficult to understand.
                            It's not difficult to understand. Lay the extra vig if you want it at 3.

                            You are saying you have two options. Lay the extra juice or wait for better juice. Right now it seems you are waiting as odds are not where you want them.

                            I do see the line moving back to where you want it but you just might have to pass if it doesn't get back there. No harm, no foul.

                            I doubt it gets to -105. Maybe in those circumstances Denver ML would be the play? I don't see Denver winning this game though.
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                            • JayDr3am
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 05-06-14
                              • 18260

                              #15
                              Wait till 3 minutes before the game starts
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                              • Jowframs
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 08-10-09
                                • 5128

                                #16
                                Originally posted by JayDr3am
                                Wait till 3 minutes before the game starts
                                Absolutely
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                                • goldust
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 09-29-15
                                  • 861

                                  #17
                                  Cleveland gifted a game to the Broncos before their bye week. What's this line if Denver had lost that one? I think the value's on GB.
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                                  • POOLSIDE
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-06-14
                                    • 2839

                                    #18
                                    I took them at -115. I may take them for more before kickoff if it makes sense.
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                                    • Milanboy
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 11-09-10
                                      • 214

                                      #19
                                      I'm in vegas right now and was talking to a poker dealer. He said that public is pounding the Packers, but all of the sharps are on the Broncos. Not sure if that helps.
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                                      • POOLSIDE
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-06-14
                                        • 2839

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Milanboy
                                        I'm in vegas right now and was talking to a poker dealer. He said that public is pounding the Packers, but all of the sharps are on the Broncos. Not sure if that helps.
                                        I'm not surprised. Makes me feel a little better about my Broncos pick if anything. Good luck at the table.
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                                        • emkee13
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 02-05-15
                                          • 46

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Milanboy
                                          I'm in vegas right now and was talking to a poker dealer. He said that public is pounding the Packers, but all of the sharps are on the Broncos. Not sure if that helps.
                                          'Sharps' if they indeed are 'sharps' are merely betting a number because of the perceived value on the league's best defense getting points at home.
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                                          • Mac4Lyfe
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-04-09
                                            • 48437

                                            #22
                                            I'm with the public tonight. I'm all in at 2 books for this game. Feels like a setup but sometimes you have to roll with the hand your dealt. Go Packers.

                                            Originally posted by Milanboy
                                            I'm in vegas right now and was talking to a poker dealer. He said that public is pounding the Packers, but all of the sharps are on the Broncos. Not sure if that helps.
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                                            • Willysmagic
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 09-10-15
                                              • 469

                                              #23
                                              I'm on Denver tonight also but I laugh when I hear the word "sharps". They call it sharp money because they are going against the public favorite. Cracks me up. So Called Sharps have been taking a bath this season. Hope this supposable sharp money is correct tonight, lol.
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                                              • Bbfromgpt
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-24-12
                                                • 6115

                                                #24
                                                Seems like about 95% of the forum is on noodle arm
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                                                • Willysmagic
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 09-10-15
                                                  • 469

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Bbfromgpt
                                                  Seems like about 95% of the forum is on noodle arm
                                                  I'm betting this small, I'm going with the better defense at home. Should be a good game to watch and yes I agree Peyton played one year to long. He sucks ass and is holding this team back. If it was anyone else they would have been pulled already. Saw the same shit with Farve. He sucked ass his last 2 seasons.
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                                                  • Jakenv21
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 11-01-12
                                                    • 374

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Willysmagic
                                                    I'm on Denver tonight also but I laugh when I hear the word "sharps". They call it sharp money because they are going against the public favorite. Cracks me up. So Called Sharps have been taking a bath this season. Hope this supposable sharp money is correct tonight, lol.
                                                    Sharps are taking a bath THIS year. It is only half way thru the season. There is a reason why vegas is in business...public money is normally wrong. I really don't think "sharps" are on Denver because its against the public favorite this week, a 6-0 team at home getting points, sign me up. I'll accept the loss if it comes.
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                                                    • Willysmagic
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 09-10-15
                                                      • 469

                                                      #27
                                                      Jaken, Look at the numbers public all over the Packers. Sharp money is nothing more then going against the public. And yes the public has been winning this season regardless if its only half the season.
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                                                      • House
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 09-04-11
                                                        • 7088

                                                        #28
                                                        In their last seven games as a home underdog, the Broncos are 2-5 SU and 3-4 ATS.
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                                                        • Fthestockmarket
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 11-17-14
                                                          • 198

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Willysmagic
                                                          Saw the same shit with Farve. He sucked ass his last 2 seasons.
                                                          Uh, his last season sucked. His second to last season was the best season of his career. 107.2 rating, 4,202 yards, 33 TD 7 INT, blew the playoffs because his idiotic coach called for an idiotic roll out pass when he had a hurt ankle.

                                                          That said, Manning has been pretty poor overall this season, and the Broncos have eeked out games they should have lost constantly. Doesn't make them a bad team, good teams manage to get the wins, but I don't know how you don't go all in Packers tonight.
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                                                          • Willysmagic
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 09-10-15
                                                            • 469

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Fthestockmarket
                                                            Uh, his last season sucked. His second to last season was the best season of his career. 107.2 rating, 4,202 yards, 33 TD 7 INT, blew the playoffs because his idiotic coach called for an idiotic roll out pass when he had a hurt ankle.

                                                            That said, Manning has been pretty poor overall this season, and the Broncos have eeked out games they should have lost constantly. Doesn't make them a bad team, good teams manage to get the wins, but I don't know how you don't go all in Packers tonight.
                                                            Brett threw the ball and you blame the coach, lmao. typical Farve fan. Dude has an ego larger then life. He also is an attention whore.
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                                                            • Fthestockmarket
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 11-17-14
                                                              • 198

                                                              #31
                                                              All true, but that was an undeniably great season/
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                                                              • Willysmagic
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 09-10-15
                                                                • 469

                                                                #32
                                                                Easiest win of the week
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                                                                • dombrow3
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 09-26-12
                                                                  • 152

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Willysmagic
                                                                  Easiest win of the week
                                                                  Arod is horrible against top five defenses. Fade Packers when this clown matches up against top five defenses. I have been watching Manning reviewing film after each possession. Rodgers is watching the game in between possessions. penetrating clown.
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