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  • smarotta09
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 01-18-12
    • 834

    #1
    is betting on the giants a bad idea?
    i feel like its a trap .. everyone and their mother will be on the giants but i cant see them starting 0-3 to a crappy panthers team .. giants lost to 2 pretty good teams .. not a banged up panthers
  • 2daBank
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-26-09
    • 88966

    #2
    U can't see a crappy nyg team going 0-3? Don't get it twisted both teams are trash, u clearly thinking of nyg from a different yr not this group of scrubs..
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    • tokio
      SBR MVP
      • 03-30-10
      • 2150

      #3
      Good spot for them to win but I wouldn't could out the Panthers who are also looking for their first win either...
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      • slacker00
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 10-06-05
        • 12262

        #4
        Giants blew them out @CAR last year, it's deja vu all over again.
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        • 2daBank
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-26-09
          • 88966

          #5
          Originally posted by slacker00
          Giants blew them out @CAR last year, it's deja vu all over again.
          id agree except for the fact nyg run gm is no where near where it was last season when i believe they came in and ran all over this team..
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          • killersweet
            SBR MVP
            • 12-02-08
            • 1483

            #6
            Originally posted by 2daBank
            id agree except for the fact nyg run gm is no where near where it was last season when i believe they came in and ran all over this team..
            Damn David Wilson. What the hell is he doing? So much talent yet can't seem to put it together.
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            • 2daBank
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 01-26-09
              • 88966

              #7
              Originally posted by killersweet
              Damn David Wilson. What the hell is he doing? So much talent yet can't seem to put it together.
              far as im concerned it as much on coughlin, i mean eli has 7 damn picks and i dont see him getting benched and talked down to every chance this old prick gets. something tells me if you just let the damn kid play he wouldnt continue to fumble like crazy but the way they handling it is not right imo, hell 1 of his fumbles vs dal was a really good strip..i dunno, all i know is they better get it right cause this team needs a run gm and fat boy jacobs is not the answer..
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              • frank9166
                SBR Hustler
                • 10-15-11
                • 93

                #8
                Got beat by probably the best team in the NFL. Gave away a road game to a division opponent by playing the sloppiest brand of football they could possibly play.

                Of Eli's 7 picks, after watching the games, I'd say 2-3 were legitimate. 2 hail Elis when down a ton against Denver don't really matter. Hell one of them was into triple coverage. I think about 3 tipped off a receivers/RB hands. He's not playing as badly as the INTs say he is. And I must say, despite the pass rush being absolutely terrible, I think the secondary for the Giants has been pretty good. Terrell Thomas is playing very well, Amukamara did a great job on Welker and Dez. Webster still stinks but at least he's going against WR2 now, which for the Panthers is a nobody (LaFell?).

                And Carolina unfortunately has its first female head coach (no balls). They are mismanaged to an incredible degree and frankly, are a bad team that continues to look bad. Their secondary is pretty weak this year, so ideally Nicks, Cruz and Randell would be able to torch them. And their rush defense hasn't exactly been a great contributor either and David Wilson has the ability to bust big runs, it's just tough to do when you fall behind quickly in games like the Giants have.

                I'm fairly confident in a Giants win as long as they aren't replaying the Dallas game again and just hand the ball over to the Panthers constantly.
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                • smarotta09
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 01-18-12
                  • 834

                  #9
                  Originally posted by frank9166
                  Got beat by probably the best team in the NFL. Gave away a road game to a division opponent by playing the sloppiest brand of football they could possibly play.

                  Of Eli's 7 picks, after watching the games, I'd say 2-3 were legitimate. 2 hail Elis when down a ton against Denver don't really matter. Hell one of them was into triple coverage. I think about 3 tipped off a receivers/RB hands. He's not playing as badly as the INTs say he is. And I must say, despite the pass rush being absolutely terrible, I think the secondary for the Giants has been pretty good. Terrell Thomas is playing very well, Amukamara did a great job on Welker and Dez. Webster still stinks but at least he's going against WR2 now, which for the Panthers is a nobody (LaFell?).

                  And Carolina unfortunately has its first female head coach (no balls). They are mismanaged to an incredible degree and frankly, are a bad team that continues to look bad. Their secondary is pretty weak this year, so ideally Nicks, Cruz and Randell would be able to torch them. And their rush defense hasn't exactly been a great contributor either and David Wilson has the ability to bust big runs, it's just tough to do when you fall behind quickly in games like the Giants have.

                  I'm fairly confident in a Giants win as long as they aren't replaying the Dallas game again and just hand the ball over to the Panthers constantly.
                  i absolutely agree with everything you just said
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                  • EzekielMowatt
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 08-07-13
                    • 153

                    #10
                    I'm on the Giants this week also. Caughlin knows he can't take as many carries away from Wilson this week, will tell him go out there and forget about it. Giants match up well,Carolina is real good vs traditional run,but not a good secondary by any means. Giants win a shootout.
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                    • hitman09
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-25-11
                      • 1157

                      #11
                      low scoring gm? ......I am thnking about it. But I think the G-mens will put at least 20pts on the board.
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                      • Pivotpoint
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-02-06
                        • 1762

                        #12
                        Giants stepping down in competition. Will find things easier and win.
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                        • face
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-31-11
                          • 14740

                          #13
                          winner by default by accidents of the other team
                          no idea who will win so passing
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                          • AdaBarber
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-05-08
                            • 4424

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 2daBank
                            far as im concerned it as much on coughlin, i mean eli has 7 damn picks and i dont see him getting benched and talked down to every chance this old prick gets. something tells me if you just let the damn kid play he wouldnt continue to fumble like crazy but the way they handling it is not right imo, hell 1 of his fumbles vs dal was a really good strip..i dunno, all i know is they better get it right cause this team needs a run gm and fat boy jacobs is not the answer..
                            I totally agree! I took the Panthers +1.5 even though I think they win straight up. This Giants team is not the Giants of old. They have no pass rush. Eli is mediocre again. There defense is way suspect and their secondary is still trash just like a year ago. Carolina does have an elite group up front on defense. Their problem is Cam. He has not quite gotten how to bounce back from a loss. This is a week to week league and he has not figured that out yet. He needs to stop calling his own number or should I say his coach should stop it and utilize his backs more! Still I think this Panther team is much more focused and talented on defense that they should win this one. Coin flip game but I took the points.
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                            • new era
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-28-13
                              • 1470

                              #15
                              Didn't they destroy the Panthers last year?

                              I like them to win, but that whole division choke away many games when they're the favorite. It happens more than a handful of times a year. Nervous about Dallas this week as well.
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                              • AdaBarber
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-05-08
                                • 4424

                                #16
                                Yes they did but I think this Giants team has taken a step backwards. They were loaded on the front where they are no longer. The Giants are the favorite now. Carolina was the favorite but the public has changed that. I see what Joe Public sees. The Giants can't lose three in a row. Yes, they can. Anybody in the NFL can. Coughlin is fn up with young Wilson. I am afraid of him toting the rock because I feel the pressure that Coughlin has placed on this young man. Until the Giants just let him run I see them struggling all year. Wilson is the key and Coughlin is bullying him til he will not perform up to his capabilities. Toss up game but I will take the less disorientated team. Panthers +1.5.
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                                • Easy-Rider 66
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 02-14-12
                                  • 36878

                                  #17
                                  If ELI is on his game, do not see how Car can stop the passing game. But something seems amiss in NYG Land. Playing the NYG in a teaser.
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                                  • 2daBank
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-26-09
                                    • 88966

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by AdaBarber
                                    I totally agree! I took the Panthers +1.5 even though I think they win straight up. This Giants team is not the Giants of old. They have no pass rush. Eli is mediocre again. There defense is way suspect and their secondary is still trash just like a year ago. Carolina does have an elite group up front on defense. Their problem is Cam. He has not quite gotten how to bounce back from a loss. This is a week to week league and he has not figured that out yet. He needs to stop calling his own number or should I say his coach should stop it and utilize his backs more! Still I think this Panther team is much more focused and talented on defense that they should win this one. Coin flip game but I took the points.
                                    if i wasnt so sick of panthers giving me a loss every week id prob be on this with you but fact is these assclowns should be 2-0 yet keep costing me money to the point i just dont see value in these pricks (under in week 1 was like stealing tho).. much like i blame coughlin for wilson's issues to a extent, it even worse in car where the coaches are dumber than their low iq qb.so while nothing would shock me here i have to give benefit of the doubt to coughlin who has actually accomplished shit over this group of dysfunctional retards in carolina, not to mention panthers secondary is all screwed up so eli should with any kind of ground gm and blocking (which he may not get) light them up..i dunno this bitch is a really easy pass for me, ill let you and the books battle the rest of the world on this one cause my patients with the panthers has grown thin to where if i got burnt with them again id start blaming myself while thus far it been easy to place blame on them for fukkin up a good bet...
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                                    • TheMLBKing
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 04-20-13
                                      • 1129

                                      #19
                                      lol keep burning your money on the panthers you fukkin degenerates.

                                      and LOL @ this methhead comparing chewing out your 2nd year RB to your 10th year, 2x super bowl MVP QB. Strong analysis.
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                                      • TheFlash
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 08-29-12
                                        • 694

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by TheMLBKing
                                        lol keep burning your money on the panthers you fukkin degenerates.

                                        and LOL @ this methhead comparing chewing out your 2nd year RB to your 10th year, 2x super bowl MVP QB. Strong analysis.

                                        Eli manning is a terrible QBQB
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                                        • TheMLBKing
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 04-20-13
                                          • 1129

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by TheFlash
                                          Eli manning is a terrible QBQB
                                          you're an idiot if you honestly believe this. Give me your next 10 picks so I can fade my way to some easy cash.
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                                          • TheFlash
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 08-29-12
                                            • 694

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by TheMLBKing
                                            you're an idiot if you honestly believe this. Give me your next 10 picks so I can fade my way to some easy cash.

                                            Seattle to beat JVille is one of them, fade away \*\*\*\*\*\*
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                                            • Skoodog
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 09-17-13
                                              • 4

                                              #23
                                              I got in when the Giants were dogs and could not believe it. NYC is a tough city to play in as a player for any sport because of the pressure. Via injuries David Wilson became a de facto feature back in a system that hasn't had a feature back since the days of Tiki Barber. That's why you're seeing the run game struggle.

                                              Yes, Eli has been pretty rough, but the first two tilts were a big rivalry game away and the best team in the AFC. This game is the Panthers, a consistent underperformer with little talent on either side of the ball and a terrible coach who hamstrings his own players by not playing to their strengths.

                                              At at the end of the day, there's a team with more talent and experience on both sides of the ball and that team is not the Panthers. I would like this line if it was Giants -6.5.
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                                              • TheMLBKing
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 04-20-13
                                                • 1129

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by TheFlash
                                                Seattle to beat JVille is one of them, fade away \*\*\*\*\*\*

                                                jags +19.5 it is. Too easy.
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                                                • slacker00
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 10-06-05
                                                  • 12262

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by TheMLBKing
                                                  jags +19.5 it is. Too easy.
                                                  He said beat, not cover. So, you gotta buy JAX ML+1600 or whatever the line is at.
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                                                  • TheFlash
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 08-29-12
                                                    • 694

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by TheMLBKing
                                                    jags +19.5 it is. Too easy.

                                                    That's just like saying I'm going to fade everyone of your plays and taking favourites plus 20. Congrats you just proved your a weak moron
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                                                    • Scorpion
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 09-04-05
                                                      • 7797

                                                      #27
                                                      im staying away from this shit game
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                                                      • stevenash
                                                        Moderator
                                                        • 01-17-11
                                                        • 65724

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by TheMLBKing
                                                        jags +19.5 it is. Too easy.
                                                        Easy like your wife?

                                                        Good call slick

                                                        God, you are an idiot
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                                                        • stevenash
                                                          Moderator
                                                          • 01-17-11
                                                          • 65724

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by TheMLBKing
                                                          you're an idiot if you honestly believe this. Give me your next 10 picks so I can fade my way to some easy cash.
                                                          You are an idiot
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                                                          • agendaman
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-01-11
                                                            • 3740

                                                            #30
                                                            wow the eli-giants sharps prob. take steelers as a bailout whoops 17-3 bears 2nd. quarter anybody have 49rs -10.5 or rg3 or viks to whack browns cardinal rule gents NOBODY knows anything re the nfl p.s. i lost on 49rs viks chargers cfb. from now on
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                                                            • smarotta09
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 01-18-12
                                                              • 834

                                                              #31
                                                              yea i only had 1 pick today .. unfortunately it was the freakin giants.. i like CFB alot more
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                                                              • drfunkmaster
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 11-29-08
                                                                • 11162

                                                                #32
                                                                college is way easier than NFL...
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