Bankers throwing darts at the NFL all season (again)...

[2daBank]

What do you think if the saints@ rams this weekend and the 49ers @ buccaneers. Both road teams need the games bad.

i think one of the biggest mistakes you can make late in the season is using the fact a team "needs" a win as a positive for them, i been around a long time and trust me just as many teams shit the bed that come thru in "need to win" games.. concerning these 2 tho they not even desperate for a win, the south gets decided in carolina next week regardless of what aints do here, and sf is pretty firmly entrenched in that 5/6 playoff spot, even if they would lose this gm they play atl at home then if zona still close they play them week 17 but cards be done by then as they gonna lose this week and next...

with that out of the way i think it a prime spot for saints to get caught sleepwalking here. you come in underestimating the lambs and all a sudden that front 4 is whipping you and your qb in for a long day while the offense pounds stacy at you over and over.. i dont think i got the stones for stl at less than +7 but i wouldnt wanna be on the saints in this gm as it a real easy spot for them to be flat as it doesnt mean that much and if they catch a rams team playing like they did against sea on monday night watch out,, actually think 2 years ago saints came to stl riding high and got beat by lowly lambs on a very similar line..

far as sf i think they win but again i wouldnt lay the points. i mentioned this last week but their oline banged up and they havnt been getting a great push lately as before the sea gm they had been out rushed 4 games in a row.. think it gonna be on keap and maybe this the week the offense bust out if crabtree is fine (limited in practice this week) but i think that more likely to come next week at home against atl than a early start against a solid tampa defense.. if tb can score 16 they will cover the number so i guess that where i would be looking but i lean to the points...

[killersweet]

Banker, why is Zona only -2.5 this weekend? They have been playing solid every weekend and what gives? keep up the good work.

[la cara]

bank whats your thoughts on carolina covering this big spread (-11)

is it your typical bounce back game from last weeks domination by the saints??

[2daBank]

Banker, why is Zona only -2.5 this weekend? They have been playing solid every weekend and what gives? keep up the good work.

Man bro, If I didn't know better I'd say u shipped your pc problems to me.. Just spent 20 minutes on this question and now I'm posting from phone as my pc going crazy and for 2nd time this week lost everything, it been acting crazy all week, I tried messing w today but no luck. Gotta get this handled before something bad happens! lol. Let's try again but
on phone gonna be not as good..

I really think titans win this gm. I luv them as part of 2 team teaser but will also be on the ml.. I know we've been liking zona all yr and it not that I don't now, thing is I think zona's offense matches up really poorly here. The way to beat titans is too pound the rock and while I love Ellington ya never know how many touches he will get , just cause u can run on ten doesn't mean mendenhall Is gonna have some monster gm. More than likely cards find themselves in a lot of 3rd downs where titans rank in the top 4 in getting opponents off the field.. Ten does a good job with coverage schemes. Palmer has a banged up elbow, housler not gonna play, Floyd should go but he is little hobbled. Think titans can trick Palmer into a few bad throws.

On the other side I don't know how titans score really? I do know the loss of honey badger a big deal I havnt heard much about. Zona last in the league against te's so I'd suspect fitz fav target to do a lot of work in the middle of the field as titans dink and dunk with walker and wright all day, sprinkle hopefully one difference making play by cj1k and possibly a defensive score and presto u have ten winning a ugly looking 20-16/23-20 type gm..

Sorry I had several other numbers posted but I'm bout to smash my pc..

[2daBank]

bank whats your thoughts on carolina covering this big spread (-11)

is it your typical bounce back game from last weeks domination by the saints??

I rarely get involved in spreads this big unless I'm on the dog (but in general just don't play these either way reAl often).. Maybe panthers pissed and wax jets, or maybe they already thinking about rematch with aints.. Prob hardest yet most imortant question cause if they focused II Should be a good opportunity for Shula, cam and the boys to come up w and execute plays against a Ryan d that is really weak in the back end. If panthers come into this gm looking to improve the passing gm I think they could easily turn this into a ads whippin.

That said would it shock me if panthers came w same ball control predicated offense? Not really, if that the case the under hits by a wide margin and who knows with the spread cause it could be anything from 17-6/17-13/ 20-10.. I think if I liked jets I'd prob prefer the under cause if jets covering I think they have to hold panthers to 24 max...

Shocked as I'm sure everyone will be I actually lean to panthers, lol. hopefully the coaches are good enough they convince them what a great opportunity it Is to be able to see a less talented secondary version of a Ryan defense In between seeing his brother twice.. Prob a little too much projecting on my part what the offense should do so ill more than likely pass,, have been considering making panthers my 2nd leg of teaser even tho I don't like not getting my teased fav under a fg I'm fine with panthers-4 paired with titans+8.5 I believe

[la cara]

I rarely get involved in spreads this big unless I'm on the dog (but in general just don't play these either way reAl often).. Maybe panthers pissed and wax jets, or maybe they already thinking about rematch with aints.. Prob hardest yet most imortant question cause if they focused II Should be a good opportunity for Shula, cam and the boys to come up w and execute plays against a Ryan d that is really weak in the back end. If panthers come into this gm looking to improve the passing gm I think they could easily turn this into a ads whippin.

That said would it shock me if panthers came w same ball control predicated offense? Not really, if that the case the under hits by a wide margin and who knows with the spread cause it could be anything from 17-6/17-13/ 20-10.. I think if I liked jets I'd prob prefer the under cause if jets covering I think they have to hold panthers to 24 max...

Shocked as I'm sure everyone will be I actually lean to panthers, lol. hopefully the coaches are good enough they convince them what a great opportunity it Is to be able to see a less talented secondary version of a Ryan defense In between seeing his brother twice.. Prob a little too much projecting on my part what the offense should do so ill more than likely pass,, have been considering making panthers my 2nd leg of teaser even tho I don't like not getting my teased fav under a fg I'm fine with panthers-4 paired with titans+8.5 I believe

these are my thoughts EXACTLY! But after they got routed by the saints last week its hard to believe that carolina doesnt pounce on the jets at home. I did a lot of 3 team teasers using carolina as one of em to bring it basically to a pk

looking foward to your picks BOL

[Chugs]

I don't usually like doing 3 team 10 pt teasers, but I think this week sets up nicely for one. I feel extremely confident in Carolina to win SU, and I like Wash as well at +17, and I'm seeing NE down to a PK now, can't see them losing by 2 scores to a division rival. I don't like how 2 of them are on the road, but idk if hats enough to scare me off this one.

[Bagman5]

Banker happy weekend bro. Hope you saved some of your winnings this year for the Xmas shopping. I know I'm glad I did haha... Always like checking in with you for NFL. Glad to see you're on the Titans because I love them plus the points as well. Bad matchups for Zona's passing game. People don't realize how good Tennessee's defense is. Playing a tease with Carolina even, Seattle +4 and Philly over 40. Also playing Philly over 50.5. I think this game plays into the mid 50s rather easily. Philly plays with the best pace in the league and I think Cassel being the guy for the Vikings makes their offense much stronger than with Ponder. They should get to 24+. Lastly, I have a strong leans to Cleveland and St. Louis, but haven't pulled the trigger yet.

Lemme know your thoughts, and as always, best of luck!

[la cara]

I don't usually like doing 3 team 10 pt teasers, but I think this week sets up nicely for one. I feel extremely confident in Carolina to win SU, and I like Wash as well at +17, and I'm seeing NE down to a PK now, can't see them losing by 2 scores to a division rival. I don't like how 2 of them are on the road, but idk if hats enough to scare me off this one.

I agree. Carolina pk, wash o39.5, kc o31

[2daBank]

Banker happy weekend bro. Hope you saved some of your winnings this year for the Xmas shopping. I know I'm glad I did haha... Always like checking in with you for NFL. Glad to see you're on the Titans because I love them plus the points as well. Bad matchups for Zona's passing game. People don't realize how good Tennessee's defense is. Playing a tease with Carolina even, Seattle +4 and Philly over 40. Also playing Philly over 50.5. I think this game plays into the mid 50s rather easily. Philly plays with the best pace in the league and I think Cassel being the guy for the Vikings makes their offense much stronger than with Ponder. They should get to 24+. Lastly, I have a strong leans to Cleveland and St. Louis, but haven't pulled the trigger yet.

Lemme know your thoughts, and as always, best of luck!

Screw Xmas presents, I gotta get new pc in da morning. Been having to use my phone to cap college hoops all day and it a pain in the ass, think I have missed at least 5 starts of games I wanted..already responded to this post but did on PC and it musta vanished...

Anyways I like that Philly over as well, I started a open parlay w Philly ml at 1st of week as I didn't think their price could go anywhere but up. Gonna add the over at some point. Figured would wait and see if any Peterson news may drop total but I think it going over the open of 51..

far as titans yea I just think they a tough matchup for cards, I rate cards as better team and maybe They can pull this off but they banged up, don't really impose their will On teams rushing and that the way to best titans.. Kinda sad the way cards season could spiral downward these last 3 weeks as they a solid club but schedule catches up them going forward I believe. Seems weird not much talk of honey badger being out for year, think he a big part of that secondary with a nasty ball hawking mentality and will be missed as zona injury list claims another...

Gun to head I'd lean lambs but think I decided they had to give me +7 or they can have all that aints action to themselves..

Chi/cle feels like a coin flip. Think I alternated that gm in my ats and pick pool I play in cause I didn't know.. Hard for anyone to say how cutler is Gonna perform and/or how quick teesman would be to yank him as he was maybe a tad reluctant in that det gm. lol

[killersweet]

Man bro, If I didn't know better I'd say u shipped your pc problems to me.. Just spent 20 minutes on this question and now I'm posting from phone as my pc going crazy and for 2nd time this week lost everything, it been acting crazy all week, I tried messing w today but no luck. Gotta get this handled before something bad happens! lol. Let's try again but
on phone gonna be not as good..

I really think titans win this gm. I luv them as part of 2 team teaser but will also be on the ml.. I know we've been liking zona all yr and it not that I don't now, thing is I think zona's offense matches up really poorly here. The way to beat titans is too pound the rock and while I love Ellington ya never know how many touches he will get , just cause u can run on ten doesn't mean mendenhall Is gonna have some monster gm. More than likely cards find themselves in a lot of 3rd downs where titans rank in the top 4 in getting opponents off the field.. Ten does a good job with coverage schemes. Palmer has a banged up elbow, housler not gonna play, Floyd should go but he is little hobbled. Think titans can trick Palmer into a few bad throws.

On the other side I don't know how titans score really? I do know the loss of honey badger a big deal I havnt heard much about. Zona last in the league against te's so I'd suspect fitz fav target to do a lot of work in the middle of the field as titans dink and dunk with walker and wright all day, sprinkle hopefully one difference making play by cj1k and possibly a defensive score and presto u have ten winning a ugly looking 20-16/23-20 type gm..

Sorry I had several other numbers posted but I'm bout to smash my pc..

Sorry to hear about your PC problems. I have sent mine to California for repairs. Now using the work on man. Yea, the game line looks funny. I am not sold on Titans offense an Cards defense has been solid. You have made some good points and I think I am gonna tease titans. hope your pc problems come to an end soon.

[2daBank]

i guess this could sound strange since i been so high on zona but this a play against them as much a play on titans who i havnt liked most the year.. think the matchup really bad for zona tho and while yea cards d is great they have had a good number of solid players go down with injury and i think this latest one to matheau should be talked about a little more than it has been as he been the same guy as he was at lsu. zona terrible against tight ends so i think fitz will dink and dunk them all gm, i doubt titans score a lot. it prob take if not a defensive score at least d/sp setting up a score for them. at same time i think palmer will make some mistakes and titans will find a way to get 20 or so on the board where i think it anyones gm at that point so might as well be on the dog with plus money, teasing them no doubt the safest play imo..

[2daBank]

week 15

skins+7 (2.5x)...i dont know how much of this line move was based off rg3 being benched or how much it just money fading the skins? all i do know is that personally i think rg3 being out should have made line decrease as this addition by subtraction if ya ask me.. this seems to set up so well in my eyes, 1st we have cousins who by all accounts is gonna be a good qb in this league with a chance to punch his ticket into a starters role somewhere by playing well down the stretch, we got shanny who im sure would love nothing more than winning with cousins so he can either tell snyder "i told you rg3 was the problem" or simply interviewing for his next job making the same statement..

shanny aint no dummy, he picked a great week to do this, last week against kc and it would have been a utter failure and he may have been run out of town already, but not shanny, he waits until skins face a atl team that has been out rushed in 10 straight gms and allow teams to go for 4.8 a carry..morris will gash atl with the run which will set up the play action against a secondary that allows teams to complete 67% of their passes for well over 11 yards a catch.. i feel like we see old school shanny fb, lots of zone blocking schemes and play action bootlegs..sure skins defense is a problem and atl will score some points but i suspect the whole team plays with a little extra motivation... there a very good chance i end up on skins ml and the over as well..

ill leave this gm with this, garcon in the locker room today when asked by a reporter about the move, " this a gifted team with a renewed energy, cant hurt".. sounds to me like a guy that cant wait to have a qb throwing him the ball on time out of his break where he can do serious damage after the catch. something that hard to do when your qb cant anticipate and put the ball in accurately on time..

Buffalo stinkin Bills-2 (2x)..not even gonna try and explain this one with any normalcy..ill tell it like the conversation went with friend of mine other day..

ive only said this to one person out loud and he didnt laugh so ill see if ya think it sounds ridiculous as it does in my head.,,, i think jags are the right play but i think they lose and possibly by a large margin, just cause a play loses doesmt mean it was a bad play , value lies with jags but sometimes that value a bit of a illusion even to smart guys.. maybe mjd and shorts questionable status are enough to make jags dogs here but i gotta say it still looks like if jags not short favs cant see how this line more than a pk? bills seem to be the kings of showing up when no one is buying them, then fall apart with the 1st sign of support, and most the damn gms make no sense as they either win or lose with scores that make no sense that come from every way imaginable. they do this against good teams and now all they gotta do is show up against a jags team nobody wanted any part of a month ago..to me it either bills or nothing with what im sure is the most idiotic way i have ever capped or decided to actually wager on a gm..not my proudest moment as id rather have a halfway insightful answer for why im making a play but i dont have it here. i guess i could talk about all the speed bills have on both sides of the ball and what potential they have but who cares ..

[2daBank]

Originally Posted by 2daBank
week 15

skins+7 (2.5x)...i dont know how much of this line move was based off rg3 being benched or how much it just money fading the skins? all i do know is that personally i think rg3 being out should have made line decrease as this addition by subtraction if ya ask me.. this seems to set up so well in my eyes, 1st we have cousins who by all accounts is gonna be a good qb in this league with a chance to punch his ticket into a starters role somewhere by playing well down the stretch, we got shanny who im sure would love nothing more than winning with cousins so he can either tell snyder "i told you rg3 was the problem" or simply interviewing for his next job making the same statement..

shanny aint no dummy, he picked a great week to do this, last week against kc and it would have been a utter failure and he may have been run out of town already, but not shanny, he waits until skins face a atl team that has been out rushed in 10 straight gms and allow teams to go for 4.8 a carry..morris will gash atl with the run which will set up the play action against a secondary that allows teams to complete 67% of their passes for well over 11 yards a catch.. i feel like we see old school shanny fb, lots of zone blocking schemes and play action bootlegs..sure skins defense is a problem and atl will score some points but i suspect the whole team plays with a little extra motivation... there a very good chance i end up on skins ml and the over as well..

ill leave this gm with this, garcon in the locker room today when asked by a reporter about the move, " this a gifted team with a renewed energy, cant hurt".. sounds to me like a guy that cant wait to have a qb throwing him the ball on time out of his break where he can do serious damage after the catch. something that hard to do when your qb cant anticipate and put the ball in accurately on time..




Buffalo stinkin Bills-2 (2x)..not even gonna try and explain this one with any normalcy..ill tell it like the conversation went with friend of mine other day..

ive only said this to one person out loud and he didnt laugh so ill see if ya think it sounds ridiculous as it does in my head.,,, i think jags are the right play but i think they lose and possibly by a large margin, just cause a play loses doesmt mean it was a bad play , value lies with jags but sometimes that value a bit of a illusion even to smart guys.. maybe mjd and shorts questionable status are enough to make jags dogs here but i gotta say it still looks like if jags not short favs cant see how this line more than a pk? bills seem to be the kings of showing up when no one is buying them, then fall apart with the 1st sign of support, and most the damn gms make no sense as they either win or lose with scores that make no sense that come from every way imaginable. they do this against good teams and now all they gotta do is show up against a jags team nobody wanted any part of a month ago..to me it either bills or nothing with what im sure is the most idiotic way i have ever capped or decided to actually wager on a gm..not my proudest moment as id rather have a halfway insightful answer for why im making a play but i dont have it here. i guess i could talk about all the speed bills have on both sides of the ball and what potential they have but who cares ..

2 team 6 point teaser..(2x)

phi-1
titans+8.5

already have the phi ml/ov 51 parlay i did for a unit early in the week as i didnt care if the total dropped a little cause im fine with 51 and the prices went way up on philly to where i think they now the best teaser option.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Love Wash as well this week Banker glad to see you on them. Think Skins whole team will be lifted and a little extra motivated for this one. We keep hearing how unpopular Rg3 is and it goes beyond just the coaches I believe. Think Wash gets plenty on the ground pounding Alf and Cousins has a good maybe even great day here. Getting 7 with that shitty Falcunt defense is good with me if nothing else the backdoor is always open with those bums. Good winnin Sunday

[chs13021986]

Titans are +2.5 on mine. When did u get +8.5?

[legend210]

Titans are +2.5 on mine. When did u get +8.5?

He teased it up to +8.5 on the alternative caps.

Don't mind an Australian being on the thread as long as you don't talk about the cricket!!!! Not happy at all at the moment!

[2daBank]

My pc is fukked gonna prob play few more gms, won't be much of a write up cause takes too long on phone plus that means gotta cap NCAA hoops on phone which a serious pain in da ass..

[stratospro]

Buffalo stinkin Bills-2 (2x)..not even gonna try and explain this one with any normalcy..ill tell it like the conversation went with friend of mine other day..

ive only said this to one person out loud and he didnt laugh so ill see if ya think it sounds ridiculous as it does in my head.,,, i think jags are the right play but i think they lose and possibly by a large margin, just cause a play loses doesmt mean it was a bad play , value lies with jags but sometimes that value a bit of a illusion even to smart guys.. maybe mjd and shorts questionable status are enough to make jags dogs here but i gotta say it still looks like if jags not short favs cant see how this line more than a pk? bills seem to be the kings of showing up when no one is buying them, then fall apart with the 1st sign of support, and most the damn gms make no sense as they either win or lose with scores that make no sense that come from every way imaginable. they do this against good teams and now all they gotta do is show up against a jags team nobody wanted any part of a month ago..to me it either bills or nothing with what im sure is the most idiotic way i have ever capped or decided to actually wager on a gm..not my proudest moment as id rather have a halfway insightful answer for why im making a play but i dont have it here. i guess i could talk about all the speed bills have on both sides of the ball and what potential they have but who cares ..

Good of luck with the Bills... After being a season ticket holder for 6 years and putting my heart and soul into that team, they will always find a way to screw you.

i want to tail you but I can't do it with the Bills. They will find a way to screw you. I don't care if you bet both lines for the game, they will fuk you at some point. Hahaha

In all seriousness though, good luck. Def pulling for ya.

[killersweet]

My pc is fukked gonna prob play few more gms, won't be much of a write up cause takes too long on phone plus that means gotta cap NCAA hoops on phone which a serious pain in da ass..

Post the picks. They are solid. any fun 6 game teasers?

[legend210]

Post the picks. They are solid. any fun 6 game teasers?

I'd like to second that!

[dilaudid8]

bank bol my brother I have NE/JACK/BROWNS

[2daBank]

Good of luck with the Bills... After being a season ticket holder for 6 years and putting my heart and soul into that team, they will always find a way to screw you.

i want to tail you but I can't do it with the Bills. They will find a way to screw you. I don't care if you bet both lines for the game, they will fuk you at some point. Hahaha

In all seriousness though, good luck. Def pulling for ya.

they are one screwed up team to cap..the whole idea was the clear value was with jags so obviously it time for bills to win,, but now that all these retards betting jags finally realizing that mjd and shorts out (maybe they should know sh=ome shit before hand ) everyone unlaoding on the bills making this just like the atl gm where books are not gonna care long as they dont get middled

[2daBank]

Post the picks. They are solid. any fun 6 game teasers?

i did a 4 teamer..could easily have been 6 cause i left off the 2 teams in my normal teaser just cause already have bunch invested in phi so if you want 6 just add my 2 teamer had to do it just to take adv of pats line move

Pending	4 Team Teaser (ties push) Teaser tp 6fb & 4½bk
				Pending	12/15/13 1:00pm NFL Football 305 Washington Redskins/Atlanta Falcons Over 44 *
				Pending	12/15/13 1:00pm NFL Football 321 New England Patriots +8½ * vs Miami Dolphins
				Pending	12/15/13 1:00pm NFL Football 323 Philadelphia Eagles/Minnesota Vikings Over 47 *
				Pending	12/15/13 4:05pm NFL Football 326 Carolina Panthers -5½ * vs New York Jets

[2daBank]

tried some props also (beware the ones i tail tend to be the ones i win and these are my own, last time i tried this on sunday i damn near missed them all, think swept str8 plays that week tho so ill take that!)

Pending	12/15/13 12:55pm Props Football 1471 A.Brown rushing yards over 73½ -135* vs A.Brown rushing yards under 73½
				Pending	12/15/13 12:55pm Props Football 2009 EJ.Manuel passing yards over 210½ -115* vs EJ.Manuel passing yards under 210½
				Pending	12/15/13 12:55pm Props Football 2227 J.Edelman pass receptions over 5½ -155* vs J.Edelman pass receptions under 5½
				Pending	12/15/13 12:55pm Props Football 2423 L.McCoy rush+receiving yards over 130½ -120* vs L.McCoy rush+receiving yards under 130½
				Pending	12/15/13 4:00pm Props Football 2625 C.Newton passing yards over 230½ +105* vs C.Newton passing yards under 230½
				Pending	12/15/13 4:00pm Props Football 2819 J.Charles pass receptions over 3½ -145* vs J.Charles pass receptions under 3½

[2daBank]

Skins ml+210

Titans ml+123

[Pick'nParlays]

Thoughts on 49ers?

[2daBank]

indy-6 (1x)..never like this team either..

skins/atl ov 49 (1.5x)..number i wanted cause prob be some running in this bitch

[2daBank]

Thoughts on 49ers?

win but dont cover my lean.. think it comes down to how many you think tb can score? i think tb scores 14 it very clse to spread, anything more they cover.. next week will be sf offensive breakout gm..

[2daBank]

sf/tb un 41

chi/cle un 44 (2x)

[killersweet]

thanks and good luck banker. Let's get em today

[2daBank]

nyg +10.5 (1x) couldnt resist this

phi tt ov 29.5 (1.5x)

i had to play a unit back on jags +4.5 with a nice middle opportunity, scares me with all the buf money flowing in, i only trust them when everyone against them!..so buf is 2x at -2 and jags 1x at +4.5

[2daBank]

Cousins making skins offense hum baby! Who knew told yea garçon seemed really happy!

[2daBank]

Gotta have Philly and this day would shape up great.. I think they come back. Foles looks fine to me, he should start puttin up Tds ..

[fecgp40]

Gotta have Philly and this day would shape up great.. I think they come back. Foles looks fine to me, he should start puttin up Tds ..

Terrible spot by the refs on 4th and 1 play by Philly. McCoy had the first down. Still a real questionable call by Philly that early in the game to go for it on your own 25.