Flacco will do what no other QB ever has

riggs · 01-10-09, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by scotty0129

Flacco and the Ravens will win this weekend and Flacco will be the only rookie QB to win his first two playoff games. Who's with me?

I think that everyone and their mother knows that I'm on this play.

Let's get it.

guru-t · 01-10-09, 01:30 AM

I very much agree!The Ravens get it done.

smitch124 · 01-10-09, 01:33 AM

Riggs, my mom doesn't know, but I will tell her before kickoff...

guru-t · 01-10-09, 01:35 AM

My mom is the one who told me to take Balt.She's a great capper!

xxxvince · 01-10-09, 01:36 AM

first qb to do it? i think ben allready did that stuff

guru-t · 01-10-09, 01:40 AM

Originally posted by xxxvince

first qb to do it? i think ben allready did that stuff

Very true.I will say that if Flacco does it,it will be more impressive.Ben completely leaned on Jerome Bettis and Flacco doesn't have that luxury.McGahee is good but it's not even close IMO!

scotty0129 · 01-10-09, 01:48 AM

Originally posted by xxxvince

first qb to do it? i think ben allready did that stuff

Sorry bud but you thought wrong. Big Ben beat the Jets 20-17 in OT in '04 and then lost 41-27 to New England. Flacco would be the first to win two playoff games ever as a rookie.

There has only been three playoff wins by rookie QB's

Flacco 27-9 VS Miami (09)
Big Ben 20-17 VS Jets in OT (04)
Shaun King 14-13 VS Redskins (99)

scotty0129 · 01-10-09, 01:49 AM

Originally posted by guru-t

Very true.I will say that if Flacco does it,it will be more impressive.Ben completely leaned on Jerome Bettis and Flacco doesn't have that luxury.McGahee is good but it's not even close IMO!

What are you talking about?

riggs · 01-10-09, 01:53 AM

The amazing part is, doing this on the road!!!

guru-t · 01-10-09, 01:59 AM

Originally posted by scotty0129

What are you talking about?

I may have been wrong on the assessment that Ben did it but I assume you can read sir.Again.If Flacco takes the Ravens to the SB,it will be more impressive than when Ben did it.Ben had a lot more talent on the offensive side of the ball.Flacco does not.The Ravens rely heavily on their defense which may end up leading to their demize.I mean this with all sincerity scotty,but do you know what I mean now?Case in point:The Ravens only allowed 13 points in the first meeting and lost.At some point,you have got to put some points on the board.

scotty0129 · 01-10-09, 02:03 AM

Originally posted by guru-t

I may have been wrong on the assessment that Ben did it but I assume you can read sir.Again.If Flacco takes the Ravens to the SB,it will be more impressive than when Ben did it.Ben had a lot more talent on the offensive side of the ball.Flacco does not.The Ravens rely heavily on their defense which may end up leading to their demize.I mean this with all sincerity scotty,but do you know what I mean now?

I can read sir and you were agreeing with the fact that Ben had already done this before and it would be more impressive if Flacco did it. You made no mention of the Super Bowl in your first post sir.

DevilDog · 01-10-09, 02:06 AM

I was leaning on the Ravens when this line first came out, but with the public being on the Ravens and this line not moving an inch I think the smart boys realize this: Tennessee is a darn good team playing at home with an experienced and solid QB in Colliins.

The win by the Ravens against Miami was impressive...I loved the Ravens in that game....but Miami was NOT that good. There is a BIG difference between the Titan defense and the Dolphin defense. There is a BIG difference playing in Miami compared to playing in Tennessee.

Remember, even though the Dolphins had committed a few turnovers they were driving in the game to get close but a large loss on a botched reverse really screwed them. That was the game.

I doubt you see Collins have as bad of a game as Pennington...but he could. Tennessee will make Flacco beat them and I don't see it happening.

Tennessee is strong against the run. They can also run the ball. The Ravens have made it as far as they can with a strong defense and an offense led by a rookie.

Tennessee by a TD or more.

guru-t · 01-10-09, 02:06 AM

Even if Flacco just takes the Ravens to the AFC CHAMP or the SB without winning it,IMO,it would be just as impressive as what Ben did.

The_Kid · 01-10-09, 02:17 AM

Originally posted by DevilDog

Tennessee will make Flacco beat them and I don't see it happening.

Flacco might not have to win it with his arm. His defense will give him good field position and maybe score off turnovers as well.

scotty0129 · 01-10-09, 07:23 AM

Originally posted by guru-t

I may have been wrong on the assessment that Ben did it but I assume you can read sir.Again.If Flacco takes the Ravens to the SB,it will be more impressive than when Ben did it.Ben had a lot more talent on the offensive side of the ball.Flacco does not.The Ravens rely heavily on their defense which may end up leading to their demize.I mean this with all sincerity scotty,but do you know what I mean now?

I can read and you were agreeing with the fact that Ben had already done this before and it would be more impressive if Flacco did it. You made no mention of the Super Bowl in your first post. GL

LT Profits · 01-10-09, 08:14 AM

What about Dan Marino? Didn't he take Dolphins to Super Bowl as a rookie?

scotty0129 · 01-10-09, 08:57 AM

Originally posted by LT Profits

What about Dan Marino? Didn't he take Dolphins to Super Bowl as a rookie?

He made it to the playoffs as a rookie but lost in the AFC Divisional Round 27-20 Seattle. The year was 1983. Flacco would be be the first to win two playoff games as a rookie.

I LUV (.) (.) · 01-10-09, 10:13 AM

Lt profits says Ravens so say no more!guys dont be stupid.Ravens are the side here.

Slate · 01-10-09, 10:21 AM

He will throw 5 interceptions, All of a sudden Tenn is no good, I am on Tenn easily. Rookie QB as opposed to Proven veteran QB, I dont get it

scotty0129 · 01-10-09, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by Slate

He will throw 5 interceptions, All of a sudden Tenn is no good, I am on Tenn easily. Rookie QB as opposed to Proven veteran QB, I dont get it

Kerry Collins will throw 3-4 picks. Ravens defense will win this game.

Cougar Bait · 01-10-09, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by Slate

He will throw 5 interceptions, All of a sudden Tenn is no good, I am on Tenn easily. Rookie QB as opposed to Proven veteran QB, I dont get it

Take a look at Chad Pennington's stats for the year, and then look at Kerry Collins' stats. Pennington had a better year statistically and look what the Ravens did to him. He looked like Rex Grossman last week. I don't think there's such a thing as a "sure" bet, but my $ is on Baltimore and the points.

mixpicks · 01-10-09, 03:06 PM

where do you see public on Bal. My Offshore Feed has it Even, 50-50% on the Side however, more % on Bal M/L at +135 and yes no line movement IMO Tough Game to Figure same with the Total, However, Maybe You Have a Better Feed? On Bet %%% >?? BOL

joeyp1222 · 01-10-09, 03:10 PM

im sorry folks but i think you are all on the wrong wagon i myself thinks titans win by 2 touchdowns titans wake up and nmake it to the superbowl

scotty0129 · 01-10-09, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by joeyp1222

im sorry folks but i think you are all on the wrong wagon i myself thinks titans win by 2 touchdowns titans wake up and nmake it to the superbowl

Flacco has gone where no QB has gone before.

LT Profits · 01-10-09, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by scotty0129

He made it to the playoffs as a rookie but lost in the AFC Divisional Round 27-20 Seattle. The year was 1983. Flacco would be be the first to win two playoff games as a rookie.

Thanks Scotty.

So Marino went to Super Bowl his second year.

scotty0129 · 01-11-09, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Thanks Scotty.

So Marino went to Super Bowl his second year.

Yea, believe so.

slacker00 · 01-11-09, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Thanks Scotty.

So Marino went to Super Bowl his second year.

Yep. I looked it up, Scotty is right. I thought the same thing about Marino, that he did it as a rookie. His second year was his big year.

Same with Big Ben. He went 13-0 regular season and 1-1 in the playoffs his rookie year. But he went to win the Super Bowl in his second year.

Rookies just don't have much luck as QBs, which makes Flacco's run this year that much more impressive. I'll dismiss anyone who talks about the Raven's D, because they've had plenty of veteran QBs over the years and still couldn't get it done. Flacco has the gift.

Slate · 01-11-09, 11:35 AM

Baltimore did not win because of Flacco, they won because Tenn couldnt hold onto the ball, Flacco was just along for the ride