Vegas Dave's Pair O' Philosophy Picks 11/30

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  • VegasDave
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-03-07
    • 8056

    #1
    Vegas Dave's Pair O' Philosophy Picks 11/30
    These suckers are streaky. Started the season off 0 - 1, won 10 straight, lost 4 straight, and have now won 4 straight.

    Brings us to 14 - 5 on the year, and we have two more (and an honorable mention) this Sunday.

    Here goes;

    Indianapolis (-4.5) @ Cleveland (+4.5)

    One of two very scary philosophy picks for me Sunday, but the damn things are hitting over 70% this year, how can I turn my back on them?

    Indianapolis is surging after a slow start en route to 4 straight wins, and now they face a Cleveland Browns team that has been a mess all year. They can't defend against the pass or get pressure on the QB, which makes them a horrible mismatch against Indianapolis.

    Brady Quinn's season ending injury only adds insult to, well, injury.

    All this adds up to about 90% of bettors being on Indianapolis here, and Indianapolis has also been thrown into just about every parlay and teaser and exotic bet out there this week.

    Bookmakers haven't budged on the line, it should be Cleveland +6.0 by now, but it hasn't moved. They like something about this game. Maybe the team rallies to prove they aren't a one man team? Maybe its the fact that Indy's 4 wins have come by margins of 3, 4, 6, and 3? Whatever it is, I'll take the side I'm "not supposed" to take.

    Cleveland +4.5 (and consider Cleveland ML as well)

    Denver (+7.5) @ New York Jets (-7.5)


    If you thought Cleveland was tough to swallow, how hard is it to pick Denver this week?

    The Jets have won 5 straight, including 3 straight 30+ point efforts and wins on the road against New England and previously-undefeated Tennessee. Their 2nd ranked offense (PPG) goes against the Bronco's 28th ranked defense. The Bronco's 27th ranked rushing defense and 25th ranked passing defense will be ill-equiped to stop the Jets juggernaut offense.

    The Broncos have lost 4 of their last 6, including last week a home blowout loss to the Raiders.

    Isn't this a classic case of one team riding too high and the other team riding too low? Looks that way to me.

    And if you don't want to blindly follow my philosophy pick and want a concrete reason to like Denver, maybe the fact that they have the league's 3rd best passing attack and are going against the Jets' 26th ranked passing defense might make you see a shootout as a realistic possibility?

    Jets will likely win here, but I say they have their hands full this week.

    Denver +7.5

    Lastly, not an official philosophy pick as it didn't completely meet my criteria (but I still like it overall anyway), PITTSBURGH is the pick in the Pit @ NE game. New England is coming off of 3 straight division rivalry games and is now favored this week. Teams rarely have a best-effort in them after 3 straight divisional games, and i don't think a B-effort will be enough against this stingy Pittsburgh team.

    PHILOSOPHY PICKS:
    Cleveland +4.5
    Denver +7.5

    WORTH TAKING A LOOK AT:
    Pittsburgh +1.0

    Good luck!
  • LT Profits
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-27-06
    • 90963

    #2
    I actually like Denver because the Jets are in the exact same situation that, well, DENVER was in last week.

    Before last week, the Bronicos were coming off of back-to-back road wins, giving them daylinght in the division. The result: got embarrassed at home by Oakland.

    Now, it is the Jets coming off of back-to-back road wins, the first one giving them the division lead and the second one ruining Tennessee's perfect season. The result: Another letdown vs. the team that lost to arguably the worst team in the AFC last week?
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    • VegasDave
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-03-07
      • 8056

      #3
      Originally posted by LT Profits
      The result: Another letdown vs. the team that lost to arguably the worst team in the AFC last week?
      Thats a tough argument with Kansas City and Cincinnati in the mix.
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      • LT Profits
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-27-06
        • 90963

        #4
        Hence, "arguably". LOL

        I don't think Cincinnati is nearly as bad as the other two. The loser of tomorrow's KC/Oak game probably deserves the "honor".
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        • VegasDave
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 01-03-07
          • 8056

          #5
          Originally posted by LT Profits
          Hence, "arguably". LOL

          I don't think Cincinnati is nearly as bad as the other two. The loser of tomorrow's KC/Oak game probably deserves the "honor".
          I think Kansas City deserves it, even if they do pull off the win Sunday.

          Cincinnati has shown little flashes of hope, and they at least have the excuse of losing Carson Palmer.

          The Raiders, while pathetic, have a pretty talented defense that is even better with DeAngelo Hall gone.

          Hard to argue much of anything for Kansas City.

          But all that aside, glad to hear you like the Broncos as well
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          • dwaechte
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-27-07
            • 5481

            #6
            If you do believe that Oakland is better than KC, they'd be a no brainer pick this week.
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            • VegasDave
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-03-07
              • 8056

              #7
              Originally posted by dwaechte
              If you do believe that Oakland is better than KC, they'd be a no brainer pick this week.
              They are a no brainer pick this week... but that isn't a philosophy play
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              • daneblazer
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 09-14-08
                • 27861

                #8
                cle and den lines are finally starting to move now. nyj went from -9 to -7.5, now they are -8.5 again
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                • losturmarbles
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-01-08
                  • 4604

                  #9
                  colts will find a way to win against cleveland, bought the line down to -3

                  jets can't afford to lose, their division is too tight, and denver's defense wont be able to contain the jets. even if champ bailey plays, hes still nursing a groin injury. suppose to be cold rain today, cutler is not going to be very productive.

                  steelers/pats game could go either way, so i give the edge to the home team. and again pats division is too tight for them to be losing games.
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                  • daneblazer
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 09-14-08
                    • 27861

                    #10
                    maybe its tight because they have lost games
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                    • SexyMit
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 10-12-06
                      • 6139

                      #11
                      Been Eyeballing this line all week. Over 90% been takeing Colts all week and the line has stayed the same? I will be on Cleveland. Just seems to easy to take colts just like yesterday. Just seemed to easy to take Tech -21. Well we see what happened with that one, I see same scenerio. I will be on Browns since everyone and there Mom is on Colts.
                      If it seems to good to be true it usually is!!

                      I have a natural instinct to exploit market ineffieciencies!!
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                      • rockhardfister
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-27-08
                        • 1037

                        #12
                        Derek Anderson goes off today and plays out of his mind the rest of the season
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                        • TRICKYRATION
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 10-09-08
                          • 18

                          #13
                          LOL..The TS is full of BS! Misdirection anyone?

                          Post a screenshot of your ticket here if you realy bet on these teams...
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                          • Dan
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 09-13-07
                            • 278

                            #14
                            I won on Cleveland this morning and Denver is looking good so far.
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                            • daneblazer
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 09-14-08
                              • 27861

                              #15
                              philosophy plays ftw
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                              • Dan
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 09-13-07
                                • 278

                                #16
                                Originally posted by TRICKYRATION
                                LOL..The TS is full of BS! Misdirection anyone?

                                Post a screenshot of your ticket here if you realy bet on these teams...
                                Welcome to the forums, noob.

                                Congrats on all 3 picks Dave! Keep it up!
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                                • L2Gunz
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-23-08
                                  • 2199

                                  #17
                                  Great Job VegasDave...I was def. wrong on that Indy/Cleveland game and you was 100% right...Very Nice Job on your picks today. Congrats...
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                                  • VegasDave
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-03-07
                                    • 8056

                                    #18
                                    Thanks for the props guys!

                                    Denver and Cleveland both hit, and Pittsburgh (honorable mention) wins as well!

                                    At 16 - 5 ATS and a few solid money lines 13 weeks into the season, hard to believe these aren't for real
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                                    • Sforz
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 08-07-08
                                      • 2221

                                      #19
                                      damn dave, guess you can say 'i told you so' to me.. happy your heating up
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                                      • VegasDave
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-03-07
                                        • 8056

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Sforz
                                        damn dave, guess you can say 'i told you so' to me.. happy your heating up
                                        College season came to a rough end, but I've had a solid NFL year so far... Just hope I can finish the last 4 weeks without a meltdown
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