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  • CollegeOverUnder
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-20-10
    • 5520

    #1786
    Originally posted by Madison
    Chino, haven't made a whole lot of them, but posted earlier that they are petty good and better yet flying under the radar, but slowly getting some attention.
    yea I member you have been wanting to look for a spot on Seton Hall this year. I don't no if I've bet Seton Hall this year?? Maybe 1 or 2 times but I don't think more then that and it would of been in the very beginning of the season
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    • CollegeOverUnder
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 10-20-10
      • 5520

      #1787
      Originally posted by CollegeOverUnder
      Tuesday December 27th 1st Draft

      20X Providence -3 @ St.Johns

      I just looked really quick to see what BetOnline posted since they post lines first. I don't book on this book just took a look did some quick research and like Providence hard so far currently. Ill have a huge write up on this game already scanning this game through my head just with knowledge from the year already
      wow the line was readjusted to

      Providence +1 and St.Johns -1 now I still like Providence though that isn't even an opening line from BetOnline they just change their lines the second Bookmaker posts their lines and make them the same as Bookmakers
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      • CollegeOverUnder
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-20-10
        • 5520

        #1788
        Seeing Providence get +1 now makes me even happier
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        • Madison
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 09-16-11
          • 6465

          #1789
          We'll know a lot about each as they play Syr and UConn after this meeting. I Catholic jest but it could be a "come to Jesus" moment for each. Hope yuo're enjoying your parents and free time.
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          • Madison
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-16-11
            • 6465

            #1790
            Know you've been busy with parents and the season is getting late but offer still stands on the PM I sent you regarding NFL.
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            • chodski1821
              SBR Rookie
              • 08-08-11
              • 4

              #1791
              I have been following your places for about 3 weeks and thanks to you, Im doing pretty well. AWESOME call on Providence, you made me a lot of money haha.

              Im a senior at DePaul so its awesome when I win money when DePaul wins. Its a nice change of pace since DePaul is usually at the cellar of the Big East.
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              • CollegeOverUnder
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 10-20-10
                • 5520

                #1792
                Taking the parents out to dinner right now will be back tonight to break down and talk about tomorrows Providence game
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                • No coincidences
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-18-10
                  • 76300

                  #1793
                  Originally posted by CollegeOverUnder
                  wow the line was readjusted to

                  Providence +1 and St.Johns -1 now I still like Providence though that isn't even an opening line from BetOnline they just change their lines the second Bookmaker posts their lines and make them the same as Bookmakers
                  You sure Providence was -3? I think they opened at +3.
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                  • gRamblin' Man
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 12-14-11
                    • 170

                    #1794
                    Can't wait for this write up on Providence
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                    • CollegeOverUnder
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 10-20-10
                      • 5520

                      #1795
                      Alright just got back settling down and will have a write up on this game later tonight
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                      • tlsmith
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 12-14-11
                        • 213

                        #1796
                        lookin forward to ur insight cou. looking at this game and pitt. gotta like pitts teams, i figure it will be tough at nd though. maybe providence will be my big play of the week.. thanks and gl
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                        • CollegeOverUnder
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 10-20-10
                          • 5520

                          #1797
                          watching/listening to the Furman vs Georgia replay I need to see more of this FURMAN team because I no I'm gonna be on them a lot this year.

                          Cant wait to see what numbers I come up with in this St.Johns vs Providence game!
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                          • tlsmith
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 12-14-11
                            • 213

                            #1798
                            do you have a formula or do you just analyze the games to date
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                            • CollegeOverUnder
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 10-20-10
                              • 5520

                              #1799
                              Alrighty guys here we go before I even looked at the TOTAL I told myself if the told is below 135 Im playing the OVER. And low and behold the TOTAL is listed at 133.5. So my objective is to currently find a play on the OVER in this game also. But when I saw this I realize St.Johns blows at free throws. Last year these two teams met at Providence and St.Johns stole the W for the night winning
                              67-65 in a narrow 2 point win. Last years St.Johns team was a very well rounded battle tested Senior Led team and this years St.Johns team is led by an elite group of freshmen still trying to find their coach and themselves as they get ready to enter Big East play. Nurideen Lindsay was the teams best player IMO. He was the point guard that controlled the reigns and is no longer their to lead the team. This was already noticeable in St.Johns narrow LUCKY LUCKY LUCKY win over Texas Pan American!

                              The Providence players are a veteran squad and experienced for the battle tested Big East field. These players also remember last years 2 point loss to that St.Johns team and are going to take it out on the freshmen squad this year.


                              Now when St.Johns traveled to Kentucky they pulled out a super super super slow tempo game and used the shot clock constantly. They let that clock run down to the last second or turned the ball over before they even attempted to do anything with the ball. But in the game @ Detroit they played pretty much normal St.Johns basketball which is what Detroit wanted because it equated to Detroit basketball up tempo basketball going up and down the court in transition. Im just assuming that St.Johns plays the fast tempo they usually play. If this is done this will work well for Providence because Providence loves to run the court up and down they love transition offense they love driving the paint. As a team St.Johns only shoots 26% from behind the ARC. Providence shoots 35% from behind the ARC that is a pretty good team average nothing really wrong with 35%


                              Both teams know how to pull buckets out of their asses though so my LUCK factor I equate into all my games will be interesting actually. I am currently listing the following

                              St.Johns ( LUCK ) = 2 buckets

                              Providence ( LUCK ) = 6 buckets = 14 points

                              I have seen Providence pull buckets out of their asses all year long and expect them to do again tomorrow night.


                              Im expecting Providence to shoot 48% from the field tomorrow on an average number I took from selected games against comparative opponents this season so far.

                              Im expecting St.Johns to shoot 33% from the field tomorrow on an average number I took from selected games against certain opponents subtracting Nurideen Lindsday. Ehhhh I just read over this and feel like I might be a little to low on this average. The will only hit 33% if Providence ends up doing what they normally do in the second half when they blow teams out in the second half. I can see St.Johns hitting 40% though if they turn it into a game


                              Im listing Amir Garret at scoring 6 points tomorrow double from his first game where he scored 3 points.

                              Im giving St.Johns a GENEROUS 3 point home court advantage in this also, this is extremely GENEROUS. Should probably only be a 1/2 point.


                              Projection 1 ---- St.Johns 62 Providence 74------ Straight up stat projection numbers

                              Projection 2 ---- St.Johns 64 Providence 74------ adjusted to BCS/Good Teams ( When I say BCS I mean BCS teams that don't blow )

                              Moe Harkless with 17 points for St.Johns in projection 2
                              Vincent Council with 22 points for Providence in projection 2


                              The real factor in this game though is

                              Gods Gift vs Kadeem Batts in the paint

                              so the two projections I ran were both close to what I thought they would actually be when I ran them in my head because I stated at the top of this write up that if I saw a total of 135 or below the OVER would be the play, but in reality I'm not seeing much of an edge playing the OVER/UNDER in this game. That total is pretty much right where its set at.

                              Just read over my post and this game will be up tempo. St.Johns will not pull what they did against Kentucky in this game because it is a HOME GAME from the RED STORM and are not going to play a slow tempo game on their own court.



                              25X Providence -1 @ St.Johns
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                              • chinoloco212
                                SBR MVP
                                • 03-24-11
                                • 1095

                                #1800
                                WOWW i didnt realize that lindsey transferred! thanks COU im pounding providence as WELL! BOL he was def their best player.
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                                • CollegeOverUnder
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 10-20-10
                                  • 5520

                                  #1801


                                  eh i can't get the link to post on here embedded

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                                  • CollegeOverUnder
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 10-20-10
                                    • 5520

                                    #1802
                                    Originally posted by chinoloco212
                                    WOWW i didnt realize that lindsey transferred! thanks COU im pounding providence as WELL! BOL he was def their best player.
                                    no problem man I'm usually on top of player news
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                                    • gRamblin' Man
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 12-14-11
                                      • 170

                                      #1803
                                      LETS GET IT MAN
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                                      • jack1go
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 06-21-10
                                        • 251

                                        #1804
                                        Large stake!fixed?
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                                        • aussieH
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-04-11
                                          • 1188

                                          #1805
                                          Prov were +1 in The morning.
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                                          • AceKingHigh
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-23-09
                                            • 3888

                                            #1806
                                            Hey bro! with you on this one, hopefully it's a winner! GL all!
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                                            • zoomer36
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 12-01-11
                                              • 68

                                              #1807
                                              Hey COU. I am putting 20 units on Providence tonight. Good luck!
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                                              • canepole
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 02-12-10
                                                • 973

                                                #1808
                                                go providence
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                                                • zoomer36
                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                  • 12-01-11
                                                  • 68

                                                  #1809
                                                  Canepole! I was in the 82d from 1977 to 1985 in the 2/508th Infantry. Some of the best days of my life! Airborne all the way!
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                                                  • Ch Br
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 12-06-11
                                                    • 425

                                                    #1810
                                                    WHOA....crazy RLM today on Prov so far

                                                    opened at -1 for St Jo then went to -1 for Prov, as high as -1.5 and now it up to +1 on Prov.....

                                                    ahahahh damn, this should give ppl some fits
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                                                    • Ambition
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-17-11
                                                      • 2060

                                                      #1811
                                                      It's now at Providence +2, I don't know what to make of this.
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                                                      • AceKingHigh
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-23-09
                                                        • 3888

                                                        #1812
                                                        Feels like we were getting ROBBED lol hopefully -1 is good.
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                                                        • decado
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-23-10
                                                          • 2392

                                                          #1813
                                                          it doesn't make sense, over 60% are on providence.

                                                          there must be big money coming in, probably trying to middle the game. maybe prov+2 and st.johns+2?
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                                                          • AceKingHigh
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 10-23-09
                                                            • 3888

                                                            #1814
                                                            I don't know.. but to tell you the truth, I think it STINKS ! I can see myself at the end of the night - calling BS and saying game was FIXED lol, it's too late now, I can only pray for Prov to win!

                                                            Prov. -1
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                                                            • Holtgetsback
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-04-10
                                                              • 4655

                                                              #1815
                                                              Originally posted by CollegeOverUnder
                                                              [COLOR=#000000 !important] Alrighty guys here we go before I even looked at the TOTAL I told myself if the told is below 135 Im playing the OVER. And low and behold the TOTAL is listed at 133.5. So my objective is to currently find a play on the OVER in this game also. But when I saw this I realize St.Johns blows at free throws. Last year these two teams met at Providence and St.Johns stole the W for the night winning
                                                              67-65 in a narrow 2 point win. Last years St.Johns team was a very well rounded battle tested Senior Led team and this years St.Johns team is led by an elite group of freshmen still trying to find their coach and themselves as they get ready to enter Big East play. Nurideen Lindsay was the teams best player IMO. He was the point guard that controlled the reigns and is no longer their to lead the team. This was already noticeable in St.Johns narrow LUCKY LUCKY LUCKY win over Texas Pan American!

                                                              The Providence players are a veteran squad and experienced for the battle tested Big East field. These players also remember last years 2 point loss to that St.Johns team and are going to take it out on the freshmen squad this year.


                                                              Now when St.Johns traveled to Kentucky they pulled out a super super super slow tempo game and used the shot clock constantly. They let that clock run down to the last second or turned the ball over before they even attempted to do anything with the ball. But in the game @ Detroit they played pretty much normal St.Johns basketball which is what Detroit wanted because it equated to Detroit basketball up tempo basketball going up and down the court in transition. Im just assuming that St.Johns plays the fast tempo they usually play. If this is done this will work well for Providence because Providence loves to run the court up and down they love transition offense they love driving the paint. As a team St.Johns only shoots 26% from behind the ARC. Providence shoots 35% from behind the ARC that is a pretty good team average nothing really wrong with 35%


                                                              Both teams know how to pull buckets out of their asses though so my LUCK factor I equate into all my games will be interesting actually. I am currently listing the following

                                                              St.Johns ( LUCK ) = 2 buckets

                                                              Providence ( LUCK ) = 6 buckets = 14 points


                                                              I have seen Providence pull buckets out of their asses all year long and expect them to do again tomorrow night.


                                                              Im expecting Providence to shoot 48% from the field tomorrow on an average number I took from selected games against comparative opponents this season so far.

                                                              Im expecting St.Johns to shoot 33% from the field tomorrow on an average number I took from selected games against certain opponents subtracting Nurideen Lindsday. Ehhhh I just read over this and feel like I might be a little to low on this average. The will only hit 33% if Providence ends up doing what they normally do in the second half when they blow teams out in the second half. I can see St.Johns hitting 40% though if they turn it into a game


                                                              Im listing Amir Garret at scoring 6 points tomorrow double from his first game where he scored 3 points.

                                                              Im giving St.Johns a GENEROUS 3 point home court advantage in this also, this is extremely GENEROUS. Should probably only be a 1/2 point.


                                                              Projection 1 ---- St.Johns 62 Providence 74------ Straight up stat projection numbers

                                                              Projection 2 ---- St.Johns 64 Providence 74------ adjusted to BCS/Good Teams ( When I say BCS I mean BCS teams that don't blow )


                                                              Moe Harkless with 17 points for St.Johns in projection 2
                                                              Vincent Council with 22 points for Providence in projection 2


                                                              The real factor in this game though is

                                                              Gods Gift vs Kadeem Batts in the paint

                                                              so the two projections I ran were both close to what I thought they would actually be when I ran them in my head because I stated at the top of this write up that if I saw a total of 135 or below the OVER would be the play, but in reality I'm not seeing much of an edge playing the OVER/UNDER in this game. That total is pretty much right where its set at.

                                                              Just read over my post and this game will be up tempo. St.Johns will not pull what they did against Kentucky in this game because it is a HOME GAME from the RED STORM and are not going to play a slow tempo game on their own court.



                                                              25X Providence -1 @ St.Johns
                                                              [/color]
                                                              so let me get this straight..

                                                              25x on providence because they will get lucky?

                                                              no offense, i understand you have had a decent season so far, but this seems iffy.
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                                                              • canepole
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 02-12-10
                                                                • 973

                                                                #1816
                                                                Appreciate ypu telling me about thr 82nd I was in the korea times and worked in finance jumping with our adding machines. I must add also the best of times in Fayetteville
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                                                                • CollegeOverUnder
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 10-20-10
                                                                  • 5520

                                                                  #1817
                                                                  Originally posted by Holtgetsback
                                                                  so let me get this straight..

                                                                  25x on providence because they will get lucky?

                                                                  no offense, i understand you have had a decent season so far, but this seems iffy.
                                                                  I don't no how you cap your games but I cap my games all the same way. And I have equated luck into every single game this season that I've capped
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                                                                  • CollegeOverUnder
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 10-20-10
                                                                    • 5520

                                                                    #1818
                                                                    Originally posted by Ambition
                                                                    It's now at Providence +2, I don't know what to make of this.
                                                                    Awwwwwww man really I want +2 lol
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                                                                    • CollegeOverUnder
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 10-20-10
                                                                      • 5520

                                                                      #1819
                                                                      The line in the providence @ rhode island game moved all over the place to. Big deal about the reverse line movement
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                                                                      • GChild
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 12-11-10
                                                                        • 3885

                                                                        #1820
                                                                        COU I like your confidence in this one. Let's cash it!!
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