Gonzaga +1

Balco10 · 03-17-11, 06:55 PM

They are now -1

IAMWINNER · 03-17-11, 06:56 PM

why do you like them

broadway6 · 03-17-11, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by Balco10

They are now -1

not at The Greek... even better for your St. Johns bet.

broadway6 · 03-17-11, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by IAMWINNER

why do you like them

i'm a lines guy...i don't have a lot of reasons other than i like the way the line has moved... the big bad big east team is going to lose tonight.

regretz · 03-17-11, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by broadway6

i'm a lines guy...i don't have a lot of reasons other than i like the way the line has moved... the big bad big east team is going to lose tonight.

love the zags too, good luck (i sense a ucla vs zaga rematch coming.. hehehehe )

broadway6 · 03-17-11, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by regretz

love the zags too, good luck (i sense a ucla vs zaga rematch coming.. hehehehe )

4seasons · 03-17-11, 07:43 PM

StJ has beaten Duke, Pitt, W. VA, Notre Dame, 'Nova & UConn!!!!!! Who has Gonzaga beaten; CSU Bakersfield? 'Zags are not strong this year and play a much weaker schedule. Love how StJ gets no respect, and how the Public is on Gonzaga as the line movement indicates. Can't even imagine how Gonzaga can beat StJ. I am all over StJ in this one.

somachino1 · 03-17-11, 07:45 PM

One of the best players for the johnies is out. That's why the line is what it is. Even so, the wcc is a joke of a conference.

SmokinGood · 03-17-11, 07:45 PM

I see the Johnnies winning in a rout here...However they will lose in the next round.

IAMWINNER · 03-17-11, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by 4seasons

StJ has beaten Duke, Pitt, W. VA, Notre Dame, 'Nova & UConn!!!!!! Who has Gonzaga beaten; CSU Bakersfield? 'Zags are not strong this year and play a much weaker schedule. Love how StJ gets no respect, and how the Public is on Gonzaga as the line movement indicates. Can't even imagine how Gonzaga can beat StJ. I am all over StJ in this one.

St Johns beat all those teams with DJ Kennedy, without him do they beat the Zags.

BuckeyeT · 03-17-11, 07:50 PM

SJ IN MSG...win big games.....OUTside the MSG.....

Zags by 7+......

broadway6 · 03-17-11, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by 4seasons

StJ has beaten Duke, Pitt, W. VA, Notre Dame, 'Nova & UConn!!!!!! Who has Gonzaga beaten; CSU Bakersfield? 'Zags are not strong this year and play a much weaker schedule. Love how StJ gets no respect, and how the Public is on Gonzaga as the line movement indicates. Can't even imagine how Gonzaga can beat StJ. I am all over StJ in this one.

Originally posted by somachino1

One of the best players for the johnies is out. That's why the line is what it is. Even so, the wcc is a joke of a conference.

Originally posted by SmokinGood

I see the Johnnies winning in a rout here...However they will lose in the next round.

i don't care who played who during the year. best of luck fellas...fading me is profitable

broadway6 · 03-17-11, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by 4seasons

StJ has beaten Duke, Pitt, W. VA, Notre Dame, 'Nova & UConn!!!!!! Who has Gonzaga beaten; CSU Bakersfield? 'Zags are not strong this year and play a much weaker schedule. Love how StJ gets no respect, and how the Public is on Gonzaga as the line movement indicates. Can't even imagine how Gonzaga can beat StJ. I am all over StJ in this one.

i'm seeing 50%-50% on sites...where do you see the public backing the Zags?

BuckeyeT · 03-17-11, 08:15 PM

03/17/11 Gonzaga+1 21:50 ET 03/17/11 MichiganSt-1.5 21:20 ET

Your Total Bet:300.00
To Win:780.00

This is what i got on the Zags.

Other sites have them -1

kernssca · 03-17-11, 08:19 PM

Zags should winn easily, also like K state to pull it out and be ready

broadway6 · 03-17-11, 08:35 PM

I'm on Missouri too. +1. feel free to fade away players

4seasons · 03-17-11, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by IAMWINNER

St Johns beat all those teams with DJ Kennedy, without him do they beat the Zags.

As they say, there's no "I" in team. Hoops is such a team sport, that when a star player goes down, the others tend to bring their game up to the next level. You see it happen all the time. Championship basketball games are won with D and rebounding, which is all heart, soul, desire, sweat & determination. Expect StJ to be like the NBA ad ...

"We never give up ... it's all about never giving in ... we never give up ... FOCUS, FOCUS, FOCUS"

4seasons · 03-17-11, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by broadway6

i'm seeing 50%-50% on sites...where do you see the public backing the Zags?

The line opened with StJ at -2, and now it's an even pick'em. Thus, the Public is clearly leaning heavily on Gonzaga. Sites that run contests and/or that track picks, where a couple of hundred guys who are betting 5 bucks, is about as useful as a peehole in the snow. Las Vegas odds, where millions are wagered, etc., is the true story.

4seasons · 03-17-11, 08:44 PM

Vegas Oddscovers.com/sportsbetting/sbinfodetails.aspx?b=632&vegas=trueOdds (Line)Over/Under (Total)

03/14/11 1:14:46 PM -2/-110 (Open)OFF
03/14/11 3:44:41 PM -2/-110135 -110 (Open)
03/14/11 4:14:39 PM -1.5/-110135 -110
03/15/11 9:34:39 AM -1/-110135 -110
03/16/11 11:44:49 PM -1.5/-110135 -110
03/17/11 9:24:39 AM -1/-110135 -110
03/17/11 12:14:37 PM 0/-110135 -110
03/17/11 4:54:38 PM 1/-110135 -110
03/17/11 6:54:47 PM 0/-110135 -110
03/17/11 8:04:37 PM 0/-110135.5 -110

covers.com/sportsbetting/sbinfodetails.aspx?b=639&vegas=trueOdds (Line)Over/Under (Total)
03/13/11 9:35:07 PM -2/-110 (Open)OFF
03/14/11 5:35:06 PM -2/-110135.5 -110 (Open)
03/15/11 11:15:05 AM -1/-110135.5 -110
03/17/11 2:45:08 AM -1/-110135 -110
03/17/11 1:05:06 PM 1/-110135 -110
03/17/11 7:05:06 PM 0/-110135 -110

covers.com/sportsbetting/sbinfodetails.aspx?b=598&vegas=trueOdds (Line)Over/Under (Total)
03/14/11 10:52:14 AM -2/-110 (Open)OFF
03/14/11 5:02:05 PM -2/-110135 -110 (Open)
03/14/11 5:32:04 PM -1.5/-110135 -110
03/17/11 9:22:11 AM -1/-110135 -110
03/17/11 12:12:05 PM 0/-110135 -110
03/17/11 8:22:05 PM 0/-110135.5 -110

IAMWINNER · 03-17-11, 08:47 PM

St Johns -1 now from PK on bookmaker

PaperTrail07 · 03-17-11, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by kernssca

Zags should winn easily, also like K state to pull it out and be ready

who are these jokers?????????????
The zags BLOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW...
Id take northwestern or minn vs them if I had to haha ST J is a bonus..........

Gonzaga is absolute garbage...........

broadway6 · 03-17-11, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by 4seasons

The line opened with StJ at -2, and now it's an even pick'em. Thus, the Public is clearly leaning heavily on Gonzaga. Sites that run contests and/or that track picks, where a couple of hundred guys who are betting 5 bucks, is about as useful as a peehole in the snow. Las Vegas odds, where millions are wagered, etc., is the true story.

so you're saying line movement is based on public play?

fults400 · 03-17-11, 08:51 PM

Im on both of your plays hopefully everybody else fades and we can pull out a couple w's

yubarut · 03-17-11, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by BuckeyeT

SJ IN MSG...win big games.....OUTside the MSG.....

Zags by 7+......

my thoughts exactly. Kennedy is out and last I saw 68% on stjohn. I see gonzaga making another run this year at least sweet 16

broadway6 · 03-17-11, 08:56 PM

Originally posted by 4seasons

Vegas Oddscovers.com/sportsbetting/sbinfodetails.aspx?b=632&vegas=trueOdds (Line)Over/Under (Total)

03/14/11 1:14:46 PM -2/-110 (Open)OFF
03/14/11 3:44:41 PM -2/-110135 -110 (Open)
03/14/11 4:14:39 PM -1.5/-110135 -110
03/15/11 9:34:39 AM -1/-110135 -110
03/16/11 11:44:49 PM -1.5/-110135 -110
03/17/11 9:24:39 AM -1/-110135 -110
03/17/11 12:14:37 PM 0/-110135 -110
03/17/11 4:54:38 PM 1/-110135 -110
03/17/11 6:54:47 PM 0/-110135 -110
03/17/11 8:04:37 PM 0/-110135.5 -110

covers.com/sportsbetting/sbinfodetails.aspx?b=639&vegas=trueOdds (Line)Over/Under (Total)
03/13/11 9:35:07 PM -2/-110 (Open)OFF
03/14/11 5:35:06 PM -2/-110135.5 -110 (Open)
03/15/11 11:15:05 AM -1/-110135.5 -110
03/17/11 2:45:08 AM -1/-110135 -110
03/17/11 1:05:06 PM 1/-110135 -110
03/17/11 7:05:06 PM 0/-110135 -110

covers.com/sportsbetting/sbinfodetails.aspx?b=598&vegas=trueOdds (Line)Over/Under (Total)
03/14/11 10:52:14 AM -2/-110 (Open)OFF
03/14/11 5:02:05 PM -2/-110135 -110 (Open)
03/14/11 5:32:04 PM -1.5/-110135 -110
03/17/11 9:22:11 AM -1/-110135 -110
03/17/11 12:12:05 PM 0/-110135 -110
03/17/11 8:22:05 PM 0/-110135.5 -110

pinnacle opened SJ's -1 Either way, good luck on your bets

broadway6 · 03-17-11, 09:48 PM

great 1h...need an equally good 2h

4seasons · 03-17-11, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by broadway6

so you're saying line movement is based on public play?

forgive me if I didn't say "sharps"

sparkyasu · 03-17-11, 10:01 PM

I was surprised Zagas didnt gain some hype from D.J.K. not playing. He was their central figure.

4seasons · 03-17-11, 10:15 PM

Don't see the "focus" with the Storm tonight. Lot of careless turnovers, not taking care of the glass, leaving the middle wide open ... and not getting the calls.

Must be like Sir Charles said, Gonzaga, Stockton's son and all, expected to be there, whereas StJ not so much. It was 14-12 when I turned it on, naturally 'Zags ran off like 12 in a row

It's like their intimidated, and being totally dominated, nd falling apart

broadway6 · 03-17-11, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by 4seasons

forgive me if I didn't say "sharps"

sharp/square whatever.... just b/c the line goes in one direction doesn't mean it's the public play.

CaptainPrice · 03-17-11, 10:25 PM

took it and thanks

HR Paperstacks · 03-17-11, 10:27 PM

Zags playing out of their minds tonight. They arent this good, they cant miss a shot if they tried right now.

Boxer300 · 03-17-11, 10:31 PM

I'm on the Zags

Hope they keep it up

4seasons · 03-17-11, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by broadway6

sharp/square whatever.... just b/c the line goes in one direction doesn't mean it's the public play.

True; to clarify, when the line moves as too much action comes in on one side, it's that lean to where a majority of the money coming in is going, is what causes the line movement.

Now since one syndicate can wager a million dollars, while 10,000 Joe Public wager $100, Joe Public isn't necessarily what is propelling the line change. It comes down to the bottom line, the cash amount wagered. If 100,000 like team A, and 1 syndicate like team B, who's right? Who knows? Just following the money/line movement, regardless if it's a one million dollar wager, or 10,000 $100 ones.