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  • TPowell
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-21-08
    • 18842

    #1
    Why didn't EVERYBODY bet this???????
    2 seed to win the title was like +200 or something.

    THE 2 SEEDS ARE BETTER THAN THE 1's!!
  • suckerforparlays
    Restricted User
    • 02-15-10
    • 4536

    #2
    I bet it
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    • KingKolzig
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 02-02-10
      • 5550

      #3
      2 seeds to win title were at least +1100 each..........not +200, either way very to think that after the fact
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      • HoulihansTX
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 02-12-09
        • 30566

        #4
        I bet this instead

        Big 12 team wins NCAA Tournament +185 (5.55U)
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        • KingKolzig
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 02-02-10
          • 5550

          #5
          Originally posted by HoulihansTX
          I bet this instead

          Big 12 team wins ncaa tournament +185 (5.55U)
          that was a better bet...........unfortunately it would be reset at +500 now. baylor or kstate are sure to fall short of the final
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          • HoulihansTX
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 02-12-09
            • 30566

            #6
            Originally posted by KingKolzig
            that was a better bet...........unfortunately it would be reset at +500 now. baylor or kstate are sure to fall short of the final
            Lets hope not, but I think K St.'s chances just skyrocketed.

            Wish me luck, bro.
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            • yisman
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 09-01-08
              • 75682

              #7
              Originally posted by TPowell

              THE 2 SEEDS ARE BETTER THAN THE 1's!!
              This is false.

              Villanova got a 2 and they deserved a 4 the way they closed out the year.

              Kansas, Kentucky, Duke, and Syracuse deserved the 1s, and Ohio State and West Virginia are strong teams as 2s, but Kansas State and Villanova? Not exactly.

              If you want to argue Ohio State and WVU were on par with the 1s, fine, but that's still four teams vs. two teams.

              Kansas State lost to Kansas three times. Villanova played like absolute garbage the final month.

              If a #2 wins it all, fine, but that doesn't mean the twos were better than the ones coming in. That's crazy.
              [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
              [/quote]

              [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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              • eberetta1
                SBR MVP
                • 03-27-09
                • 1159

                #8
                Believe what you want. I'd rather get less than even money than risk my money on a +200 bet.
                The underdog will win 1 of 4 bets and the favorite 3 of 4 bets.
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                • suckerforparlays
                  Restricted User
                  • 02-15-10
                  • 4536

                  #9
                  Ohio State +2000

                  West Virginia +1500

                  for me
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                  • 70kgman
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-31-10
                    • 4354

                    #10
                    I put a small wager on Baylor at +3000 to win the tourney. Looks a lot better now with Kansas out of the way.
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                    • TPowell
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-21-08
                      • 18842

                      #11
                      Kansas State=Kentucky
                      West Virginia=Syracuse
                      Ohio State>Duke
                      Kansas>Villanova


                      The 2 seeds are just as good IMO, I thought this from the start but didnt bet it for some reason. WV coming off BE tourny, OSU off the B10 tourny, and K State off a great showing in the Big 12
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                      • yisman
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 09-01-08
                        • 75682

                        #12
                        Originally posted by TPowell
                        2 seed to win the title was like +200 or something. THE 2 SEEDS ARE BETTER THAN THE 1's!!
                        Originally posted by TPowell
                        Kansas State=Kentucky West Virginia=Syracuse Ohio State>Duke Kansas>Villanova The 2 seeds are just as good IMO, I thought this from the start but didnt bet it for some reason. WV coming off BE tourny, OSU off the B10 tourny, and K State off a great showing in the Big 12

                        1)You're making two different arguments. First it was " THE 2 SEEDS ARE BETTER THAN THE 1's!!" then, when challenged, it became "The 2 seeds are just as good IMO"


                        Both are wrong, but the first is more wrong. First off, they cannot be compared one to one, because that doesn't accurately reflect the disparity. Kansas is not just > Villanova. They're >>>>> Villanova.

                        Kansas and Kentucky were on a level above any of the #2s.

                        West Virginia and Ohio State can be argued to be on a similar level to Syracuse and Duke.

                        Villanova is/was hot trash.

                        Kansas State is below the #1s as well, but even if you argue they aren't, your argument still doesn't wash.

                        What is your argument, exactly? Kansas lost, so therefore they aren't good, and therefore everyone should've bet the #2s?

                        +200 was not good value before the tournament. With Kansas out, the bet looks a little better, but unless you knew Kansas was going to bounce early, you wouldn't have known that the bet had a better chance than the implied odds.
                        [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                        [/quote]

                        [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                        • yisman
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 09-01-08
                          • 75682

                          #13
                          Originally posted by TPowell
                          K State off a great showing in the Big 12
                          K State lost to Kansas three times.
                          [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                          [/quote]

                          [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                          • iceminers26
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 10-13-08
                            • 15600

                            #14
                            Originally posted by yisman
                            This is false. Villanova got a 2 and they deserved a 4 the way they closed out the year. Kansas, Kentucky, Duke, and Syracuse deserved the 1s, and Ohio State and West Virginia are strong teams as 2s, but Kansas State and Villanova? Not exactly. If you want to argue Ohio State and WVU were on par with the 1s, fine, but that's still four teams vs. two teams. Kansas State lost to Kansas three times. Villanova played like absolute garbage the final month. If a #2 wins it all, fine, but that doesn't mean the twos were better than the ones coming in. That's crazy.
                            Kansas St is the most solid number 2 seed out of the 4 IMO and feel they will at least reach the final four and would not be surprised to see them in the title game.
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                            • yisman
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 09-01-08
                              • 75682

                              #15
                              They did not have as solid a season as Ohio State and WVU, which became the top 2 seeds which had shots at becoming #1s.

                              Maybe you feel Kansas State has more upside, though.
                              [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                              [/quote]

                              [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                              • TPowell
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 02-21-08
                                • 18842

                                #16
                                I think K State has a great shot at winning it all. Bet them at a couple of books to go to the Final 4. Well actually 3 books
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