Paco might be onto something (Nova/St. Mary's over 153)

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  • No coincidences
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-18-10
    • 76300

    #1
    Paco might be onto something (Nova/St. Mary's over 153)
    KenPom has it at 161 -- I've never seen such a wide gap between a Vegas total and a KenPom number before. Usually, if you get a 2-3 point discrepancy, you're lucky.

  • iceminers26
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-13-08
    • 15600

    #2
    what's kenpom?
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    • lakerboy
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 04-02-09
      • 94379

      #3
      he has the right call im already on board but its his play and im not posting it to steal his thunder
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      • No coincidences
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-18-10
        • 76300

        #4
        Originally posted by iceminers26
        what's kenpom?


        Very useful site IMHO. I could swear Vegas gets its totals from him -- I'd say 80% of the games are within 1-2 points of his posted predictions total-wise.
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        • iceminers26
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-13-08
          • 15600

          #5
          Originally posted by No coincidences
          http://kenpom.com/rate.php Very useful site IMHO. I could swear Vegas gets its totals from him -- I'd say 80% of the games are within 1-2 points of his posted predictions total-wise.
          Looks like a solid site with a lot of useful info, thanks for posting link
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          • superbowl3056
            SBR Sharp
            • 03-16-10
            • 301

            #6
            this might be stupid but i cant really figure out how to use the site? where do you find his o/u at?
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            • No coincidences
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 01-18-10
              • 76300

              #7
              Originally posted by iceminers26
              Looks like a solid site with a lot of useful info, thanks for posting link
              The fact that you haven't been using that site and still cap the way you do -- what can I say, ICE, I'm impressed.

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              • ttwarrior1
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 06-23-09
                • 28460

                #8
                villanova can't score that many pts to cover this
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                • THE PROFIT
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 11-27-09
                  • 17701

                  #9
                  Originally posted by iceminers26
                  what's kenpom?
                  any respect you may have had as any kind of basketball capper just flushed!
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                  • Jive
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-10-10
                    • 1405

                    #10
                    Originally posted by superbowl3056
                    this might be stupid but i cant really figure out how to use the site? where do you find his o/u at?
                    He uses sum of squares to come up with a predicted score. Look at a team's schedule and add the predicted score for the o/u.

                    KenPom is an indispensable site. The match-ups and game plan sections are loaded with great info and numbers. His totals are usually very close to what the lines are. Once in a while his numbers will be way off and I usually go nuts on those (Providence vs Seton Hall he had going over by a crap load and it was a winner with 9 minutes left). It isn't full-proof though because the math treats all games equally and doesn't account for injuries obviously. So you will sometimes see big discrepencies, such as Thursday's ODU/ND game, where Ken had the total at 129 but the line was 121 and it was a big under play, because ND had totally changed their offensive philosophy when Harengody went down.

                    Anyway, great stuff there!
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                    • THE PROFIT
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 11-27-09
                      • 17701

                      #11
                      The sharps are on this play, I've already locked it in & will play more if it goes down, the public tend to bet very high totals down.

                      I've just got a bad taste in my mouth about the RM game not going over with an extra 5 fukin minutes.

                      Pomeroy has been very accurate in his #1 seed projections winning also. He also had VT in the shit tourney winning by 20 the other night, which they did exactly. I hammered the fuk out of -13
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                      • Sunde91
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 11-26-09
                        • 8325

                        #12
                        The play is whack.

                        1) The total is pretty much dead on if you look at the averages.
                        2) The public always pounds the over, just like you guys are, so don't even talk about what the "sharps" are doing.
                        3) Paco made this play while obviously shit faced after a successful day, and is thus due for a loss.

                        = Excellent fade material.
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                        • THE PROFIT
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-27-09
                          • 17701

                          #13
                          really, leave it alone, Sunde is right.

                          Kentucky & Kansas over, that's it!
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                          • Shortstop
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 01-02-09
                            • 27281

                            #14
                            My thinking is that St. Mary's will attempt to slow the game down with a very deliberate half court offense and eating up the shot clock.

                            The Gaels will not want to run with the Wildcats. I hate taking Unders though, so I will stay away from this game.
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                            • THE PROFIT
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-27-09
                              • 17701

                              #15
                              I hate overs, but this tourney has been full of 'em.
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                              • rochestertitans
                                Restricted User
                                • 12-14-09
                                • 8149

                                #16
                                i think under is the play here
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                                • xxdjstriderxx
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-25-08
                                  • 4740

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by THE PROFIT
                                  I hate overs, but this tourney has been full of 'em.
                                  full of them? were you watching any of the games yesterday?
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