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  • 2daBank
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    • 01-26-09
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    #1
    11/24 ncaa discussion thread
    yesterday went well and i appreciate everyone who stopped by and contributed to the thread. long as they going like that i will keep doing them when i can, off work all week so here we go..

    1 now then will get back at it when they post more lines in morning..

    tcu+6.5.. kinda surprised this shot up a couple points from the open, almost has me wanting to wait to see if it hits 7 but im content right here. im a fan of hurley and really liked the direction RI was headed coming into the season, however the loss of ec mathews is tough for a offensively challenged team like RI.

    tcu is gonna beat rams up inside with their size and depth. both teams play solid d and force a lot of turnovers, both teams turn it over too much but RI is on another level turning it over slightly more than a qrtr of their possessions. rams also terrible ft shooters and missing those as bad as a turnover imo. that in of itself is reason enough to consider tcu at this number as you cant trust RI to put a cover away even if they outplay tcu cause they simply bad at the ft line, like shaq bad! hitting only 51% of their freebies as a team.

    bottom line their just not this much separation between these 2 imo and at a neutral site we getting 3 possessions and the team i feel will win on the glass, at the line, and in the turnover department. frogs getting spotted points in a game i believe they will undoubtedly have more possessions , that a lot to ask of a RI team that just isnt strong offensively. should be a defensive game and another game i wouldnt be surprised at all if the dog wins straight up..

    look forward to hearing from everyone once lines come out on the other games
  • funnyb25
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    • 07-09-09
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    #2
    I am on Rhode Island here, so u should be good with ur play... BOL man!
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    • 2daBank
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      #3
      Originally posted by funnyb25
      I am on Rhode Island here, so u should be good with ur play... BOL man!
      ive seen a couple ppl i respect on them but at -4 or -5.. mind telling me why? i just dont see a lot of favorable things about the matchup honestly..
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      • 2daBank
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        • 01-26-09
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        #4
        what time they been posting these tourney games?
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        • TheeArchBishop
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          • 11-17-11
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          #5
          Bank....AYO is on Rhode -6. Hate when I have two good cappers on different sides - makes me want to stay away
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          • Louisvillekid1
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            • 10-17-07
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            #6
            Originally posted by 2daBank
            what time they been posting these tourney games?
            We got em shaking !
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            • Louisvillekid1
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              • 10-17-07
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              #7
              I backed tcu 1h last out and they disgusted me, which is prob good as they will play harder entering this...

              But sour taste , I'm passing here...
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              • 2daBank
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                #8
                Originally posted by TheeArchBishop
                Bank....AYO is on Rhode -6. Hate when I have two good cappers on different sides - makes me want to stay away
                pretty much everyone on RI, cant figure out why for the life of me.. lol.
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                • Louisvillekid1
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                  #9
                  If Milwaukee is a dog I'm backing them 1h
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                  • THam12
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                    #10
                    Cleveland state is catching 6.5 pts?...

                    Rider that good? Didn't watch much of them against Maryland.
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                    • 2daBank
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                      #11
                      how you think valpo will look on 2nd half of oregon trip? that should be one defensive type battle there..
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                      • THam12
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                        #12
                        Do we take Indiana - any number they put out???... Johnnies couldn't keep up with vandy, what do u think Indiana offense, coming off a loss is gonna do...
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                        • THam12
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by THam12
                          Cleveland state is catching 6.5 pts?...

                          Rider that good? Didn't watch much of them against Maryland.
                          Guess all I see is their experience over Cleve states looks pretty solid..
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                          • 2daBank
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by THam12
                            Do we take Indiana - any number they put out???... Johnnies couldn't keep up with vandy, what do u think Indiana offense, coming off a loss is gonna do...
                            gotta think number gonna be higher than im willing to play. it still crean and away from home, im not laying a big ass number with them. one would think johnnies give a better effort on the defensive side at least after the ass beating put on them, but not like i wanna back their garbage asses. pretty much assured i wont be touching that game.,.
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                            • Louisvillekid1
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                              • 10-17-07
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                              #15
                              Corvallis so tough , valpo does have a lot of fight tho... Tough call at this point
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                              • 2daBank
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                Corvallis so tough , valpo does have a lot of fight tho... Tough call at this point
                                i lean under 134.
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                                • THam12
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                                  #17
                                  South Alabama been TOUGH in first halves this far... I wanna see their number against IUPUI.
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                                  • THam12
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                    If Milwaukee is a dog I'm backing them 1h
                                    I like...
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                                    • 2daBank
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                      If Milwaukee is a dog I'm backing them 1h
                                      wish they defended the 3 better.
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                                      • THam12
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                                        #20
                                        When will these lines release???
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                                        • 2daBank
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by THam12
                                          Guess all I see is their experience over Cleve states looks pretty solid..
                                          line move didnt make much sense to me but didnt like enough to be against it really.
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                                          • THam12
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by 2daBank
                                            wish they defended the 3 better.
                                            They don't defend either too well...

                                            BUT, they only allow 31.8% of pts to come from 3 while they score 40% of theirs from there. (Which is almost as much as the dukes, who are 7th in nation in 3s)

                                            I think Mil has a distinct advantage from FT line too. Shoot almost 80%, dukes only around 65%

                                            Think milwaukee the better team, BUT dukes get red hot sometimes.
                                            I like that first half play idea from Lville
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                                            • Louisvillekid1
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                                              • 10-17-07
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                                              #23
                                              Rebounding rebounding rebounding ,
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                                              • THam12
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                line move didnt make much sense to me but didnt like enough to be against it really.
                                                Yeah i saw that...a little RLM.. Think rider gonna have a tough time for some reason. Cleve state hasn't played an easy schedule by any means.

                                                This match up so ugly on kenpom lol sooooo much red.
                                                Rider excellent from FT line AND CLEVE STATE horrible defending 2pts... Rider scores 67% of pts from the 2... That may be enough for me to back tbme honestly.

                                                Where rider has gotten beat has been the 3, where they allow 33% of pts, but Cleve state shoots it 20% (EW)...

                                                Rider may be really nice today. Add all that with their experience.
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                                                • 2daBank
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                                                  #25
                                                  i tend not to care much about percentage of points allowed behind the arc as i do percentage against. the former i believe has a lot more to do with style of team they have played opposed to the latter the result of good defense. ive noticed several of milw games opponents shot well above their season avg and that what i really look at most when judging a teams perimeter d.. scary against team like dukes, now i didnt watch yesterday but just assuming waves played good defense as to why dukes shot so poorly, could have been they just shot poorly away from their gym as well?
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                                                  • THam12
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by THam12
                                                    Yeah i saw that...a little RLM.. Think rider gonna have a tough time for some reason. Cleve state hasn't played an easy schedule by any means.

                                                    This match up so ugly on kenpom lol sooooo much red.
                                                    Rider excellent from FT line AND CLEVE STATE horrible defending 2pts... Rider scores 67% of pts from the 2... That may be enough for me to back tbme honestly.

                                                    Where rider has gotten beat has been the 3, where they allow 33% of pts, but Cleve state shoots it 20% (EW)...

                                                    Rider may be really nice today. Add all that with their experience.
                                                    Hard to read TOO much into this stuff tho cause Cleve St opponents, RI and Akron are solid defensive teams. Especially RI
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                                                    • THam12
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by THam12
                                                      South Alabama been TOUGH in first halves this far... I wanna see their number against IUPUI.
                                                      I think SBama gonna run IUPUI today. I like the way they play. Been battle tested against strong teams thus far.
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                                                      • babear83
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                                                        #28
                                                        cleve st line just moved to 6
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                                                        • 2daBank
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                          Rebounding rebounding rebounding ,
                                                          you preaching to the choir brother. the way to negate that tho is to light them up from behind the arc, if dukes shoot upwards of 50% from deep i want no part of a milw ticket.. you know im not playing dukes cause i cant stand 3 point dependent teams away from home, i just like waves a lot better yesterday to fade them.
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                                                          • THam12
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by babear83
                                                            cleve st line just moved to 6
                                                            Alot of Cleve state money coming in right now. I don't get it...
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                                                            • PorkChop
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                                                              #31
                                                              Oakland -1..

                                                              Not sure how Felder & company doesn't run SIU off the court..
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                                                              • babear83
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                                                                • 09-13-15
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                                                                #32
                                                                All the better drive the line for me before i pound rider.
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                                                                • Louisvillekid1
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                                                                  • 10-17-07
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Going to have a 2x play on Green Bay tonight , prob split w/ 1h...

                                                                  Green Bay brutal schedule to start with 3 on the road , started w/ OT loss to Stanford in a game they controlled... Capped off with a GT route.

                                                                  Now Akron is on their 3rd str8 road game and Green Bay finally at home coming off a warm up game...

                                                                  They get settled in tonight and at least start strong, although I think they will hold on for win...

                                                                  Akron gonna be heavy pub , but I know sharp money gonna come in also...

                                                                  Not sure if we should wait but I'll take +2/+4 1x each
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                                                                  • babear83
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    wow cleve state at 5.5 now.. whole lotta money coming in on them
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                                                                    • 2daBank
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by THam12
                                                                      Alot of Cleve state money coming in right now. I don't get it...
                                                                      probably a lot of same that drove it up in 1st place. i try not to even get caught up in all that junk. lol
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