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  • Rookie-Capper
    SBR MVP
    • 03-21-09
    • 4567

    #1
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    Citadel +3.5
    Rider -1
    Notre Dame +8
    Elon University +3
    James Madison +3.5
    Furman +8
    Chattanooga +1.5
    Arkansas St. +1.5
    South Alabama +8.5
    Oklahoma +6.5
  • NeedAWin2442
    SBR Hustler
    • 12-22-14
    • 78

    #2
    The Citadel finished last in their conference last year....cannot trust them. ND game I like but line makes me think they know something. Rider is without a big man I believe. JMU itll be interesting to see how that game turns out and how they respond on the road and Oklahoma line should drop to 5 or 5.5 by tip.
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    • labones00
      SBR MVP
      • 02-20-12
      • 1555

      #3
      Originally posted by NeedAWin2442
      The Citadel finished last in their conference last year....cannot trust them. ND game I like but line makes me think they know something. Rider is without a big man I believe. JMU itll be interesting to see how that game turns out and how they respond on the road and Oklahoma line should drop to 5 or 5.5 by tip.
      "ND game I like but line makes me think they know something" like what lol? The line is right around where it should be, ND has not played a road game all year and going into NC for their first will be no easy task. What makes you think this line is off?
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      • wufpakman21
        SBR Sharp
        • 08-26-13
        • 403

        #4
        Seems 2 or 3 points too high to me too. I think the two teams are fairly evenly matched. With uNC being at home I'd give them the 3-5 point edge. But not 8.5.
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        • NeedAWin2442
          SBR Hustler
          • 12-22-14
          • 78

          #5
          Remember...vegas thinks 50% of bettors are idiots off the bat. So someone seeing a higher ranked team and getting 8 points will draw attraction.

          People say lines are made to get 50/50...this linedoes not.

          I think vegas knows that UNC will run over ND.

          my brother likes ND so I am okay with that lol
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          • labones00
            SBR MVP
            • 02-20-12
            • 1555

            #6
            74% are on ND
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            • NeedAWin2442
              SBR Hustler
              • 12-22-14
              • 78

              #7
              So IMO if UNC wins....it will be by 8+. I am not going to say games are fixed but some games if they see it is over and the result is decided they will make sure a team covers or not. Too many shady things happen for it now to. DENVER vs CSU earlier this year is the exact case. Not every game but some. How many times do you see teams foul with 3 seconds left and refs not call it. on the other hand how many times do you see teams not foul but it called with 3 seconds left....just to get some extra free throws up. Go UNC but my brain says ND but vegas probably says UNC
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              • labones00
                SBR MVP
                • 02-20-12
                • 1555

                #8
                So you are or aren't going to say games are rigged... I mean are we really going down this road again?
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                • NeedAWin2442
                  SBR Hustler
                  • 12-22-14
                  • 78

                  #9
                  No...I think the officials just sucked haha. ONCE AGAIN GAMES ARE NOT RIGGED TO DETERMINE THE WINNER....it is all about point spreads though. Games are rigged....I can name many haha.

                  Vegas makes half their lines for 50/50 action a quarter for60/40action and a quarter for 75/25 action. because they kno who will cover.

                  that is why this is a BILLION dollar industry...not a MILLION dollar one. If books just went off Juice it wouldn't be this big
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                  • labones00
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-20-12
                    • 1555

                    #10
                    No...I think the officials just sucked haha. ONCE AGAIN GAMES ARE NOT RIGGED TO DETERMINE THE WINNER....it is all about point spreads though. Games are rigged....I can name many haha.

                    I'd like to hear the games that were rigged in regards to the spread...and how do the ref's know what line people got. Sometimes it may move 2-3 points...
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                    • NeedAWin2442
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 12-22-14
                      • 78

                      #11
                      Another thing I wanna point out is refs don't make shots. There are games that are "rigged" that don't hit because the kids just don't make shots. But I am TELLING you man after doing this for years and years and years you can tell how some games turn into foul contests when refs want the over. Or simple no foul calls at the end of vice versa make the spread cover or not. Not all games...not even most games...but I would confidently say that at least 1 a day is "rigged". Now I am not saying there is an organization that rigs them but I am saying that there are a few bad apples out there. I watched a basketball game where 75% of the action was on the under and 61 fouls were called in the game....61 fouls in 40 minutes. I have seen a team score 7 points in 4 seconds to cover a spread. Refs give teams chances and the more chances a team gets the better off they are obviously.
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                      • labones00
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-20-12
                        • 1555

                        #12
                        Originally posted by NeedAWin2442
                        Another thing I wanna point out is refs don't make shots. There are games that are "rigged" that don't hit because the kids just don't make shots. But I am TELLING you man after doing this for years and years and years you can tell how some games turn into foul contests when refs want the over. Or simple no foul calls at the end of vice versa make the spread cover or not. Not all games...not even most games...but I would confidently say that at least 1 a day is "rigged". Now I am not saying there is an organization that rigs them but I am saying that there are a few bad apples out there. I watched a basketball game where 75% of the action was on the under and 61 fouls were called in the game....61 fouls in 40 minutes. I have seen a team score 7 points in 4 seconds to cover a spread. Refs give teams chances and the more chances a team gets the better off they are obviously.

                        So I have one very simple question then...

                        If you feel this way why do you BET on college basketball?
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                        • NeedAWin2442
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 12-22-14
                          • 78

                          #13
                          Because I feel that CBB is the least rigged out of all the basketball sports. NBA....do not even get me started. If a team is missing their best player and it is a some what last minute scratch....always bet that team....ALWAYS. Also, after doing this for years I have gotten better at seeing the fix before it happens. I am still 50/50 but considering rigs are meant for you to be on the 30/70 side I am okay with it
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                          • labones00
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-20-12
                            • 1555

                            #14
                            Originally posted by NeedAWin2442
                            Because I feel that CBB is the least rigged out of all the basketball sports. NBA....do not even get me started. If a team is missing their best player and it is a some what last minute scratch....always bet that team....ALWAYS. Also, after doing this for years I have gotten better at seeing the fix before it happens. I am still 50/50 but considering rigs are meant for you to be on the 30/70 side I am okay with it
                            So what rigs are in place for this evening? Tons of CBB and NBA games
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                            • labones00
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-20-12
                              • 1555

                              #15
                              Tony Parker "questionable".....
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                              • NeedAWin2442
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 12-22-14
                                • 78

                                #16
                                Tony Parker is always out though hahahaha. Biggest example was Heat when Wade and James didn't play. They won with Bosh and Chalmers...Chalmers scored 35 or something like that....made NO sense
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                                • NeedAWin2442
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 12-22-14
                                  • 78

                                  #17
                                  I already told you I think that if UNC wins it will def be by 8+...so I guess you can count that as one. I wouldn't call this a rig but at least 60% will be on GS -2.5 tonight...but if you think how can OKC win it is because of their size. NBA rigs are more for Over Unders than anything....that way it cannot be detected as easily. Cause any ref can say oh he touched him and justify the whistle. I stay away from the NBA ever since I saw back to back to back and 1's to end a Lakers game that caused the game to go OVER when the guy never got touched. Defender just jumped...but game was 20 pt blowout so no one made a big deal
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                                  • Tboonepickem
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-21-13
                                    • 1113

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Rookie-Capper
                                    Citadel +3.5
                                    Rider -1
                                    Notre Dame +8
                                    Elon University +3
                                    James Madison +3.5
                                    Furman +8
                                    Chattanooga +1.5
                                    Arkansas St. +1.5
                                    South Alabama +8.5
                                    Oklahoma +6.5
                                    Only 10 bets today?
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                                    • 2daBank
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-26-09
                                      • 88966

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by NeedAWin2442
                                      Tony Parker is always out though hahahaha. Biggest example was Heat when Wade and James didn't play. They won with Bosh and Chalmers...Chalmers scored 35 or something like that....made NO sense
                                      has nothing to do with it being fixed because it is not,,has way more to do with human nature and a sport with a almost meaningless reg season.. .. wtf do nba players who make a fukkin fortune have to gain fixing a gm? there was 1 rouge ref that got caught, 1 ...i love ncaa hoops but everyone knows it the easiest and most commonly fixed sport outside of soccer (and it aint the refs doing it). history says as much and common sense says the rest. cmon man, this common knowledge..ppl who say the nba is fixed are tin foil hat wearing goofballs.
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                                      • NeedAWin2442
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 12-22-14
                                        • 78

                                        #20
                                        Refs...not players...refs easily call fouls to make over unders go....refs don't make as much as you think and it is a full time job.

                                        Oh...not to mention there was a ref who got caught n said it happens
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                                        • 2daBank
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 01-26-09
                                          • 88966

                                          #21
                                          in college hoops it players. period. they make less than everyone..

                                          im sure refs do ok for themselves, not to mention it hard as hell to keep anything covered up these days and a refs performance is fairly easy to monitor. basketball is a extremely hard gm to officiate as it subjective as hell and very difficult to always be in proper position. lending itself to loony tune conspiracy theorist always crying foul.. in the nba obviously certain players have earned a degree of respect others havnt and yes they get the benefit of the doubt more times than not but that hardly constitutes "fixing"..of coarse the guy that got caught says everyone doing it, that how pussy ass ppl act when they get caught. not to mention it the only thing that keeps his sorry ass relevant..
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                                          • NeedAWin2442
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 12-22-14
                                            • 78

                                            #22
                                            FYI posted my picks in a new thread since I got the feeling you didn't quite believe me earlier.

                                            Wish me luck evn tho u prolly wat me to lose hha
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