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  • G's pks
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    • 01-01-09
    • 22251

    #1401
    Good Luck tomorrow Machine...there are some followers in here that really need you...
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    • Machine Choice
      SBR MVP
      • 12-12-08
      • 3997

      #1402
      I am looking at Xavier / Pitt.
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      • Machine Choice
        SBR MVP
        • 12-12-08
        • 3997

        #1403
        Musketeer Magic.

        Sweet 16
        Xavier +6.5
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        • Machine Choice
          SBR MVP
          • 12-12-08
          • 3997

          #1404
          I'll tell you what....I'm gonna add 'Nova +2.5 small tonight ($143 on it).

          There's some stuff I like here.

          Maybe nothing to this, but the last time Duke was in the city of Boston they lost (against BC on Feb 15). I realize this is a neutral game, but all five of Duke's losses came when they were away from Cameron arena as they will be tonight.

          Against Sagarin top 25 competition, Duke is 4-4 and 'Nova is 6-6.

          Here's the clincher for me. Against offensive teams avg more than 77 ppg, 'Nova is 9-2 ATS. I think tonight they will take Duke out of their gameplan.
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          • G's pks
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            • 01-01-09
            • 22251

            #1405
            Good luck with nova.... I like them too... but will stick to U conn which I let the forum pick for me -3.5 (bgt 3)...
            Xavier is looking good up to now...
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            • Machine Choice
              SBR MVP
              • 12-12-08
              • 3997

              #1406
              Originally posted by Machine Choice
              Musketeer Magic.

              Sweet 16
              Xavier +6.5
              GAME OVER

              Overall: 69-52 (57%)
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              • G's pks
                Restricted User
                • 01-01-09
                • 22251

                #1407
                Originally posted by G's pks
                Good luck with nova.... I like them too... but will stick to U conn which I let the forum pick for me -3.5 (bgt 3)...
                Xavier is looking good up to now...
                Good call machine I won my only game tonight...
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                • Machine Choice
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-12-08
                  • 3997

                  #1408
                  Friday #1

                  Kansas +1.5
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                  • Machine Choice
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-12-08
                    • 3997

                    #1409
                    Friday Final Play

                    Syracuse +1
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                    • G's pks
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                      • 01-01-09
                      • 22251

                      #1410
                      Nice job tonight Machine...soon your followers will be back... As I mentioned earlier... I liked Nova too... but decided to stick to my one pk winner... Nice night for you 2-0... expect the groupies back soon...

                      GL tomorrow... G.
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                      • Machine Choice
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-12-08
                        • 3997

                        #1411
                        Originally posted by Machine Choice
                        I'll tell you what....I'm gonna add 'Nova +2.5 small tonight ($143 on it).

                        There's some stuff I like here.

                        Maybe nothing to this, but the last time Duke was in the city of Boston they lost (against BC on Feb 15). I realize this is a neutral game, but all five of Duke's losses came when they were away from Cameron arena as they will be tonight.

                        Against Sagarin top 25 competition, Duke is 4-4 and 'Nova is 6-6.

                        Here's the clincher for me. Against offensive teams avg more than 77 ppg, 'Nova is 9-2 ATS. I think tonight they will take Duke out of their gameplan.
                        GAME OVER

                        2-0 Thurs

                        Overall: 70-52 (57.3%)
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                        • G's pks
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                          • 01-01-09
                          • 22251

                          #1412
                          tough night for machine 0-2.... I was 0-1 hockey got me better luck tomorrow...
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                          • Machine Choice
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-12-08
                            • 3997

                            #1413
                            Overall: 70-54 (56.4%)

                            When the tournament started, I noticed that none of the angles or stats I used to handicap regular-season games could apply in the tournament. But I tried to make them work anyway. Wrong answer.

                            Here's why they could not work: during the regular season, I was handicapping matchups for teams in the same conference, playing similar strengths of schedule, using coaches who had much experience studying and facing their opponents. Alot of times these games played themselves out on paper before they even started. But in the tournament you get almost none of that.

                            Instead, the tourament is like starting a new season. My mistake is that I went into this tournament with no clear method of how I was to adjust my handicaping. I did not have a "system" like I used during regular season.

                            I am going to spend the rest of this night figuring out how I should handicap the rest of this short season. ATS trends are not the answer, or else Kansas should have covered last night. There is an answer but I have to find it.
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                            • G's pks
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                              • 01-01-09
                              • 22251

                              #1414
                              Machine enough Bs.... figure out if Louisville and NC. win tomorrow easily.... I think Louisville should get the job done.... College games not my thing.... I like nba... 1-2 today on college ball....
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                              • Machine Choice
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-12-08
                                • 3997

                                #1415
                                Originally posted by G's pks
                                Machine enough Bs.... figure out if Louisville and NC. win tomorrow easily.... I think Louisville should get the job done.... College games not my thing.... I like nba... 1-2 today on college ball....
                                I am going to handicap all five remaining games, and I am going to post exactly how I capped them. I need to start keeping a diary for capping methodology. I have one for baseball, for college football, and for NCAAB regular season. I need one for the tourney.
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                                • G's pks
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                                  • 01-01-09
                                  • 22251

                                  #1416
                                  Machine work hard on tomorrows games... Why do I like the favorites so much in both games.... See what you come up with... GL tomorrow! G.
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                                  • Machine Choice
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-12-08
                                    • 3997

                                    #1417
                                    Louisville vs Michigan State

                                    Line: Louisville -6.5 (Greek)

                                    The criteria I used was: 1. NCAA tournament performance 2. Sagarin Predictor model 3. Avg ranking of each team's loss oponent 4. Road ATS 5. Who worked harder in their last game?

                                    I decided to go with whichever team took the majority of these categories.

                                    1. The avg ranking of Louisville's NCAA opponents (Sagarin) was 87. In those games, Louisville went 85/63 in PF/PA. MSU's avg opponent ranking was 59. In those games MSU went 73/64 in PF/PA. Edge to cover the spread: Louisville

                                    2. Sagarin Predictor Model: Louisville by 4.
                                    Edge to cover the spread: MSU

                                    3. Avg Sagarin ranking for each team's losses oponent: Louisville (44), MSU (34). Edge to cover the spread: MSU

                                    4. Road Record ATS: Louisville 12-6, MSU 9-9. Edge: Louisville

                                    5. Who worked harder in their last game? MSU. Edge: Louisville

                                    MY CHOICE: Louisville -6 (bought hook)
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                                    • Ticon18
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 02-08-09
                                      • 666

                                      #1418
                                      I agree. Louisville win by double digits or close to. BOL
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                                      • G's pks
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 01-01-09
                                        • 22251

                                        #1419
                                        Lets Go Louisville!!!
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                                        • caseyking2
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-13-06
                                          • 1261

                                          #1420
                                          BOL good luck fellows lets cash this shit
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                                          • Machine Choice
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-12-08
                                            • 3997

                                            #1421
                                            North Carolina vs Oklahoma

                                            Line: UNC -7

                                            1. Even

                                            2. Oklahoma

                                            3. Oklahoma

                                            4. Oklahoma

                                            5. UNC

                                            My CHOICE: Oklahoma +7
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                                            • alukk
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-29-09
                                              • 1544

                                              #1422
                                              BOL machine. this far im liking UNC and louville. buying 2 points in both games
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                                              • sallysnax8
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-22-09
                                                • 1686

                                                #1423
                                                teaser louisville -2.5 okl +11
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                                                • solobass
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-15-09
                                                  • 1277

                                                  #1424
                                                  Machine and others on this board I would like to propose a few things. First of all, yes your capping has to change dramatically to be successful in this tournament but a lot of conventional wisdom always helps. First round, I bet the ML on all the 12 seeds. 1 win = your money back and 3 of them cashed! Regarding your posting above Machine, I would like to argue that road record ATS is not relevant in these cases. SU records are a much better indicator, especially when you are looking at a true live dog. ATS records can be deceiving unless you break them down even further. More revealing would be how many times has Louisville covered against a top 10 RPI team when they were favored by 5 or more, and conversely for MSU how many times have they covered as a 5 pt dog in the same situation?

                                                  That being said, remember the tournament sees so much square money (like the superbowl) and the public usually pounds favorites and overs and the sharps take the dogs and the unders. The only favorite I have bet on is Michigan State (i live 2 miles from campus) so please exercise some smart contrarian betting as well.
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                                                  • Machine Choice
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-12-08
                                                    • 3997

                                                    #1425
                                                    Originally posted by solobass
                                                    Machine and others on this board I would like to propose a few things. First of all, yes your capping has to change dramatically to be successful in this tournament but a lot of conventional wisdom always helps. First round, I bet the ML on all the 12 seeds. 1 win = your money back and 3 of them cashed! Regarding your posting above Machine, I would like to argue that road record ATS is not relevant in these cases. SU records are a much better indicator, especially when you are looking at a true live dog. ATS records can be deceiving unless you break them down even further. More revealing would be how many times has Louisville covered against a top 10 RPI team when they were favored by 5 or more, and conversely for MSU how many times have they covered as a 5 pt dog in the same situation?

                                                    That being said, remember the tournament sees so much square money (like the superbowl) and the public usually pounds favorites and overs and the sharps take the dogs and the unders. The only favorite I have bet on is Michigan State (i live 2 miles from campus) so please exercise some smart contrarian betting as well.
                                                    Good points. The method I described is so crude that it is a joke. Actually, it's laughable. The problem for me is that I have the intellectual curiosity to devise a relevant system that considers the most important factors affecting the spread, but the lack of time and work/family support to do it. Therefore, I have to come up with these crude systems and cross my fingers.

                                                    In my next post, I will show you how I capped the regular season with good (not great) success.
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                                                    • Machine Choice
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-12-08
                                                      • 3997

                                                      #1426
                                                      What I need is "startup financing" that would allow me to handicap as a full-time job. If I could only have this, I think there are no limits to what could be accomplished. It would allow me not only to analyze statistical indicators, but also personnel matchups and personnel storylines. These last two components are as important as SIs, but you need time to search them out on the net.

                                                      I am in a career that requires most of my free time to be consumed by professional study not related to gambling. That is unfortunate. I envision a day when I can gamble full time for salary, write articles, devise systems, and publish.
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                                                      • solobass
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-15-09
                                                        • 1277

                                                        #1427
                                                        Originally posted by Machine Choice
                                                        What I need is "startup financing" that would allow me to handicap as a full-time job. If I could only have this, I think there are no limits to what could be accomplished. It would allow me not only to analyze statistical indicators, but also personnel matchups and personnel storylines. These last two components are as important as SIs, but you need time to search them out on the net.

                                                        I am in a career that requires most of my free time to be consumed by professional study not related to gambling. That is unfortunate. I envision a day when I can gamble full time for salary, write articles, devise systems, and publish.
                                                        I just passed my year mark of me leaving the 9-5 world and gambling full time. The profits have been used to start 2 other businesses and best of all the freedom that it allows has been the biggest blessing for me. PM me sometime so we can talk, I think you have what it takes. There are pros and cons for sure though. I have an idea of how you cap CBB games, I believe I read it somewhere in your thread many many moons and pages ago. Having all day to really look at the games has enormous benefits. Sometimes I have my cap done and are waiting for the lines to come out. When you watch the lines all day you can tell when the square money comes in. For example between 12:30 and tip, I expect more money (already at 77%ATS 87%ML) to come in and pump up the Louisville line to 7 before tip. Getting in at the right time means a lot, and saves you sometimes from buying a whole point and just taking the hook or just getting the best possible odds in regards to ML betting.
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                                                        • Machine Choice
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-12-08
                                                          • 3997

                                                          #1428
                                                          Originally posted by solobass
                                                          I just passed my year mark of me leaving the 9-5 world and gambling full time. The profits have been used to start 2 other businesses and best of all the freedom that it allows has been the biggest blessing for me. PM me sometime so we can talk, I think you have what it takes. There are pros and cons for sure though. I have an idea of how you cap CBB games, I believe I read it somewhere in your thread many many moons and pages ago. Having all day to really look at the games has enormous benefits. Sometimes I have my cap done and are waiting for the lines to come out. When you watch the lines all day you can tell when the square money comes in. For example between 12:30 and tip, I expect more money (already at 77%ATS 87%ML) to come in and pump up the Louisville line to 7 before tip. Getting in at the right time means a lot, and saves you sometimes from buying a whole point and just taking the hook or just getting the best possible odds in regards to ML betting.

                                                          I posted my NCAAB capping strategy several weeks ago, but then I tweaked it again and reeled of an 11-0 run afterward. I'll post the new version, but it's very long and probably unreadable. It doesn't work in the tourney.
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                                                          • Machine Choice
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-12-08
                                                            • 3997

                                                            #1429
                                                            Originally posted by solobass
                                                            I just passed my year mark of me leaving the 9-5 world and gambling full time. The profits have been used to start 2 other businesses and best of all the freedom that it allows has been the biggest blessing for me. PM me sometime so we can talk, I think you have what it takes. There are pros and cons for sure though. I have an idea of how you cap CBB games, I believe I read it somewhere in your thread many many moons and pages ago. Having all day to really look at the games has enormous benefits. Sometimes I have my cap done and are waiting for the lines to come out. When you watch the lines all day you can tell when the square money comes in. For example between 12:30 and tip, I expect more money (already at 77%ATS 87%ML) to come in and pump up the Louisville line to 7 before tip. Getting in at the right time means a lot, and saves you sometimes from buying a whole point and just taking the hook or just getting the best possible odds in regards to ML betting.
                                                            I am curious how you are able to do this full-time if you do not live in Las Vegas unless you are a bookmaker yourself. As far as online, I have had problems structuring my payouts without raising legal eyebrows. I live under constant worry.
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                                                            • Achilles15
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 01-25-09
                                                              • 156

                                                              #1430
                                                              Originally posted by Machine Choice
                                                              Louisville vs Michigan State

                                                              Line: Louisville -6.5 (Greek)

                                                              The criteria I used was: 1. NCAA tournament performance 2. Sagarin Predictor model 3. Avg ranking of each team's loss oponent 4. Road ATS 5. Who worked harder in their last game?

                                                              I decided to go with whichever team took the majority of these categories.

                                                              1. The avg ranking of Louisville's NCAA opponents (Sagarin) was 87. In those games, Louisville went 85/63 in PF/PA. MSU's avg opponent ranking was 59. In those games MSU went 73/64 in PF/PA. Edge to cover the spread: Louisville

                                                              2. Sagarin Predictor Model: Louisville by 4.
                                                              Edge to cover the spread: MSU

                                                              3. Avg Sagarin ranking for each team's losses oponent: Louisville (44), MSU (34). Edge to cover the spread: MSU

                                                              4. Road Record ATS: Louisville 12-6, MSU 9-9. Edge: Louisville

                                                              5. Who worked harder in their last game? MSU. Edge: Louisville

                                                              MY CHOICE: Louisville -6 (bought hook)

                                                              GENIUS!!

                                                              EDGE: Michigan state, dont tell us how you capped it , it doesnt matter anyway, just give us your plays, maybe the next one will work out, we are all rooting for you
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                                                              • Machine Choice
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-12-08
                                                                • 3997

                                                                #1431
                                                                Originally posted by Achilles15
                                                                GENIUS!!

                                                                EDGE: Michigan state, dont tell us how you capped it , it doesnt matter anyway, just give us your plays, maybe the next one will work out, we are all rooting for you
                                                                If you tailed me, you deserve what you get. Don't tail. Do your own work and form your own opinions.
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                                                                • Machine Choice
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 12-12-08
                                                                  • 3997

                                                                  #1432
                                                                  In my last 22 plays I am 4-18. With the way the Sooners are playing, I'm pretty sure that will go to 4-19. If I had TRIED to do that badly I couldn't have. You can't make this stuff up. All I can do is laugh, hit the bottle, and stay away from my account until I ride this out.
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                                                                  • solobass
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-15-09
                                                                    • 1277

                                                                    #1433
                                                                    damn right machine form your own opinions and tail nobody!
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                                                                    • Vonnegut
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-08-09
                                                                      • 1499

                                                                      #1434
                                                                      NCAA tournament is tough. I had a pretty bad year this year in NCAA, started losing a bit of money management discipline during the last month and ended up a measly 4 units. I am barely over the .500 mark units wise in the tournament. The lines have been sharp and the angles few and far between.

                                                                      57% of the course of a season is nothing to sneeze at.
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                                                                      • solobass
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-15-09
                                                                        • 1277

                                                                        #1435
                                                                        Originally posted by Vonnegut
                                                                        NCAA tournament is tough. I had a pretty bad year this year in NCAA, started losing a bit of money management discipline during the last month and ended up a measly 4 units. I am barely over the .500 mark units wise in the tournament. The lines have been sharp and the angles few and far between.

                                                                        57% of the course of a season is nothing to sneeze at.

                                                                        hey it is still profitable which is better than 80% of people here on SBR. every time i get away from the boards i seem to do better than when i am on here. hey just go back to the drawing board we have another year's worth of data to analyze that can help us next year that is the way i see it.
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