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  • No coincidences
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    • 01-18-10
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    #1
    Let's talk about Wichita-Tennessee (PK), shall we?
    Finally a decent college hoops matchup this week.

    Wichita is long and athletic. I haven't seen Tennessee much. They opened as a fave against a ranked opponent on their home court (pre-market at least -- Pinny had them at +1), which usually indicates pound town, but I don't know if I can trust the Vols here. I'm kind of leaning Shockers for now.

    Thoughts?
  • t-wizzle
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    • 12-18-09
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    #2
    I just took Tennessee for 4 units. Might add to it. Wichita State getting a lot of love against a decent Tennessee squad here.

    Do you really think the Shockers are that great? I know they're 9-0 but I don't see them as a legit ranked team.
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    • No coincidences
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      #3
      Originally posted by t-wizzle
      I just took Tennessee for 4 units. Might add to it. Wichita State getting a lot of love against a decent Tennessee squad here.

      Do you really think the Shockers are that great? I know they're 9-0 but I don't see them as a legit ranked team.
      I watched them beat the living shit out of Iowa, Tulsa and DePaul, and beat VCU at VCU. I'm not convinced Tennessee's better than any of those teams.

      They're pretty damn good t-wizz.
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      • No coincidences
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        • 01-18-10
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        #4
        Sounds like Wessel is still out, but Orupke, the 7-footer, will be back in the lineup Thursday.
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        • t-wizzle
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          • 12-18-09
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          #5
          Originally posted by No coincidences
          I watched them beat the living shit out of Iowa, Tulsa and DePaul, and beat VCU at VCU. I'm not convinced Tennessee's better than any of those teams.

          They're pretty damn good t-wizz.
          None of those teams are that great. VCU is ok and that was a nice win. But Wichita State won an ugly game there and wasn't exactly what I'd call "impressive."

          Gotta go with the home unranked team here. Even though Tennessee is the bigger name school, the public seems to have a bit of a love affair with Wichita State dating back to last year and it's certainly been rekindled given their #23 ranking now.
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          • No coincidences
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            • 01-18-10
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            #6
            Originally posted by t-wizzle
            None of those teams are that great. VCU is ok and that was a nice win. But Wichita State won an ugly game there and wasn't exactly what I'd call "impressive."

            Gotta go with the home unranked team here. Even though Tennessee is the bigger name school, the public seems to have a bit of a love affair with Wichita State dating back to last year and it's certainly been rekindled given their #23 ranking now.
            Like I said, I'm not fully convinced that Tennessee is better than any of the teams Wichita has already manhandled. I've only seen the Vols once and wasn't impressed. Stokes and Golden are erratic. Team doesn't seem to shoot very well.
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            • t-wizzle
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              • 12-18-09
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              #7
              Originally posted by No coincidences
              Like I said, I'm not fully convinced that Tennessee is better than any of the teams Wichita has already manhandled. I've only seen the Vols once and wasn't impressed. Stokes and Golden are erratic. Team doesn't seem to shoot very well.
              Maybe so but since when do you only take the better team?
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              • VCURam3019
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                • 11-19-12
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                #8
                I was at the VCU and Wichita game... VCU had a horrible offensive night especially at the line, but I have to give credit to Wichita they are a tough high tempo defense team just like VCU. it was a dogfight and after watching a couple Tennessee games I don't think there offense will matchup very well against Wichita. I think Wichita is legit this year and hungry to keep the streak alive on the road. Probably staying away from game but lean is Wichita
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                • survive
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                  • 01-08-11
                  • 2388

                  #9
                  not sure how you can say something about wichita's schedule/quality wins when tenn's only "impressive" win is umass
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                  • chinoloco212
                    SBR MVP
                    • 03-24-11
                    • 1095

                    #10
                    Ive been on Tenn and watching their last two games where they covered against Georgetown but got whooped at Virginia. They can't score at all! However Tenn is a tough environment to play in and that alone will keep them in this ball game. I will analyze this a bit further and might possibly have a play tomorrow.
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                    • CollegeOverUnder
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                      • 10-20-10
                      • 5520

                      #11
                      Originally posted by t-wizzle
                      None of those teams are that great. VCU is ok and that was a nice win. But Wichita State won an ugly game there and wasn't exactly what I'd call "impressive."

                      Gotta go with the home unranked team here. Even though Tennessee is the bigger name school, the public seems to have a bit of a love affair with Wichita State dating back to last year and it's certainly been rekindled given their #23 ranking now.
                      Iowa , Tulsa , DePaul and VCU are all better than Tenn.
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                      • goduke
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                        • 02-17-10
                        • 11668

                        #12
                        Tennessee cannot shoot to save their life. I dont know much about wichita state but you cant back a team like tennessee unless the team they are playing are also awful jump shooters
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                        • rm18
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                          • 09-20-05
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                          #13
                          Took Tenny pk but I am just a dart chucker
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                          • hougigo
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                            • 06-01-12
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                            #14
                            Wichita on a 10 player rotation right now,but their stout defense should be enough to keep the vols at bay to take the win in this one IMO.
                            Everybody is saying the Vols team is tough right now... but they're looking pretty cupcake-y to me.
                            Hell, I could be wrong...but I think Wichita holds them down defensively and wins a close single digit game
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                            • ShivaBowl
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                              • 03-09-10
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by No coincidences
                              Finally a decent college hoops matchup this week.

                              Wichita is long and athletic. I haven't seen Tennessee much. They opened as a fave against a ranked opponent on their home court (pre-market at least -- Pinny had them at +1), which usually indicates pound town, but I don't know if I can trust the Vols here. I'm kind of leaning Shockers for now.
                              Thoughts?
                              If you’re looking for on edge on this game, perhaps this will help.

                              Martin is familiar with the Shockers from his time at Missouri State
                              and should have a good game plan, at how to go at them.
                              BOL

                              Missouri State
                              2008–2009
                              2009–2010
                              2010–2011
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                              • RetardStrength
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                                • 01-25-10
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                                #16
                                A struggling offense vs a stout defense... It's the Shockers for me
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                                • slambam
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                                  • 02-07-10
                                  • 1653

                                  #17
                                  Big on the Shox myself. I don't think Tennessee can keep up with them.
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                                  • og4667
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                                    • 09-17-09
                                    • 2438

                                    #18
                                    wichita great road team...vols pretty good home team...its a tough and have already flip flopped on a side too many times...final lean would be shockers...they are favored for a reason i think.
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                                    • GoonSquad
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 11-23-11
                                      • 125

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                                      If you’re looking for on edge on this game, perhaps this will help.

                                      Martin is familiar with the Shockers from his time at Missouri State
                                      and should have a good game plan, at how to go at them.
                                      BOL

                                      Missouri State
                                      2008–2009
                                      2009–2010
                                      2010–2011
                                      Im sure almost all of the players from those teams are gone.
                                      Also I like the Shockers because of their defense, poise on the road, and tennessee's awful offense.
                                      HOWEVER, I can see this being close. Last year Tennessee played extremely well at home...Losing to kentucky by 3, and beating Uconn.
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                                      • sebb90
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                                        • 10-21-12
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                                        #20
                                        Wichita are favourites now by -1.5p at pinnacle
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                                        • Snowball
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                                          • 11-15-09
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                                          #21
                                          Wichita -2 now, talking a 3.5 pt swing there
                                          obviously big $ on Wichita.
                                          And what has Tenn done to deserve otherwise ? nothing.
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                                          • southpaw74
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                                            • 12-21-09
                                            • 7104

                                            #22
                                            How can anyone sat Tennessee is good? Their offense is junk.
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                                            • thfootball
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                                              • 01-16-11
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                                              #23
                                              There's that crazy system someone has mentioned previously in years past and somewhat recently. When an ranked team is favoured by a unranked team at home, supposedly one is to take the home team. It's suppose to be an 80% winner, but...hmmm..not to sway thoughts. I'll be taking Wich, but then again i might go for a different game or not bet at all, maybe nfl
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                                              • No coincidences
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                                                • 01-18-10
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                                                #24
                                                Even with a low total of 121, I could see this going under.

                                                This has 58-56 written all over it.
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                                                • bane
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                                                  • 09-14-12
                                                  • 630

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by thfootball
                                                  ... I'll be taking Wich, but then again i might go for a different game or not bet at all, maybe nfl
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                                                  • hkarmy_kenny
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 11-25-12
                                                    • 248

                                                    #26
                                                    Wichita is better across the board offensively against Tennessee.

                                                    The only significant defensive factor Tennessee has is a great Opp 3PT average. I don't think it will make much of a difference in this game because Wichita will control the pace and adjust if they need to.

                                                    Wichita also is consistent with their 55% 2PT shots.

                                                    Wichita Cleanthony Early avg 13.89 points per game, 5.44 rebounds.
                                                    Wichita Carl Hall avg 13.11 points per game, 7.44 rebounds.

                                                    Tennessee Jarnell Strokes avg 12.14 points per game, 7.86 rebounds.
                                                    Tennessee Trae Golden avg 11.57 points per game, 3 rebounds.

                                                    Tennessee has 6'9" Kenny Hall avg 6 rebounds per game but Wichita Cleanthony Early and Carl Hall at 6'8". Wichita holds overall height advantage.

                                                    Wichita wins by 6.
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                                                    • TPowell
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                                                      • 02-21-08
                                                      • 18842

                                                      #27
                                                      I'd lean towards Tenny because they are just as good as Wichita if they played 1000 times... BUT Tenny seems like they are really struggling lately and I hate backing teams who don't have confidence in shooting the basketball. Add in the fact that Wichita is very well coached with the smarter players and it makes my power ratings moot
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                                                      • Romanov
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                                                        • 10-08-10
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                                                        #28
                                                        NoCoin

                                                        Any idea why pinny keeps upping the line to 2.5, letting it get juiced, and dropping it back to 2?
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                                                        • dkthrilla33
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                                                          • 10-26-12
                                                          • 635

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by hkarmy_kenny
                                                          Wichita is better across the board offensively against Tennessee.

                                                          The only significant defensive factor Tennessee has is a great Opp 3PT average. I don't think it will make much of a difference in this game because Wichita will control the pace and adjust if they need to.

                                                          Wichita also is consistent with their 55% 2PT shots.

                                                          Wichita Cleanthony Early avg 13.89 points per game, 5.44 rebounds.
                                                          Wichita Carl Hall avg 13.11 points per game, 7.44 rebounds.

                                                          Tennessee Jarnell Strokes avg 12.14 points per game, 7.86 rebounds.
                                                          Tennessee Trae Golden avg 11.57 points per game, 3 rebounds.

                                                          Tennessee has 6'9" Kenny Hall avg 6 rebounds per game but Wichita Cleanthony Early and Carl Hall at 6'8". Wichita holds overall height advantage.

                                                          Wichita wins by 6.
                                                          u know jarnell stokes is 6'8 270 lb beast down low
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                                                          • HOT WINGS
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                                                            • 01-29-10
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                                                            #30
                                                            Actually leaning the Vols here. Going against the world
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                                                            • dkthrilla33
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                                                              • 10-26-12
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                                                              #31
                                                              im feeling vols too!
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                                                              • PaperTrail07
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                                                                • 08-29-08
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                                                                #32
                                                                wich all fucggn day
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                                                                • Louisvillekid1
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                                                                  • 10-17-07
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                                  wich all fucggn day
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                                                                  • hkarmy_kenny
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 11-25-12
                                                                    • 248

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Dear Wichita please make some penetrating baskets 30% from the field my penetrating ass bro
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                                                                    • drfunkmaster
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                                                                      • 11-29-08
                                                                      • 11162

                                                                      #35
                                                                      wichta sucks tonight....
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