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  • t-wizzle
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 12-18-09
    • 38099

    #1
    Bobcats tonight: Spread and ML don't correlate
    Charlotte is up to a 12 point dog at most shops but is only in the +700 range for the ML. I know they are at home and that accounts somewhat for the lower ML but a 12 point dog should be at least +900 and probably upwards of +1000.

    Bobcats have been awful but this is interesting to me. Wonder if they have a shot at pulling off the upset tonight. The Sixers have started to regress a bit lately and aren't quite playing at the level they were a few weeks ago but they have taken care of business against the bad teams (except for one loss to New Jersey).
  • moshi
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 12-18-11
    • 801

    #2
    Argh.. just when I'm about to play 76ers -11 Now I'm doubting myself...
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    • Pauulzcappin
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 04-23-10
      • 20295

      #3
      Fukk me for not remembering 100%, but I think the ml was low as well on Chi @ NO and bulls won by like 25 pts.
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      • pro-style
        SBR High Roller
        • 07-20-10
        • 177

        #4
        Originally posted by Pauulzcappin
        Fukk me for not remembering 100%, but I think the ml was low as well on Chi @ NO and bulls won by like 25 pts.
        Hooray for a sample size of 1.

        The spread/ML combos for the for the bulls game were around:

        -12.5/+12.5 and the ML was -1400/+1100.
        -13.5/+13.5 and the ML was-1800/+1400.
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        • oiler
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 06-06-09
          • 6585

          #5
          will never bet on charlotte as bad as they are.wonder how much jordan is winning betting against his team
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          • Pauulzcappin
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 04-23-10
            • 20295

            #6
            ML was around the +400ish range and CHI was a 10 point favorite, just checked on sbr lines.
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            • Riceboi
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 10-03-11
              • 857

              #7
              76ers first half. And I rather just light my money on fire than bet on bobcats, don't care if then win SU tonight will continue fading them the rest of the season.
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              • Pauulzcappin
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 04-23-10
                • 20295

                #8
                Originally posted by pro-style
                Hooray for a sample size of 1.

                The spread for the bulls game was -12.5/+12.5 and the ML was -1400/+1100.





                Feel welcome to check it out, idiot.
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                • t-wizzle
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 12-18-09
                  • 38099

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Pauulzcappin
                  ML was around the +400ish range and CHI was a 10 point favorite, just checked on sbr lines.
                  Not sure what game you're talking about. Charlotte closed +12.5 and +1075 on the ML friday night at home against chicago.
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                  • Pauulzcappin
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 04-23-10
                    • 20295

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pauulzcappin
                    Fukk me for not remembering 100%, but I think the ml was low as well on Chi @ NO and bulls won by like 25 pts.
                    ...
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                    • PAULYPOKER
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 12-06-08
                      • 36581

                      #11
                      only way Charlotte wins is if the game is fixed
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                      • Pauulzcappin
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 04-23-10
                        • 20295

                        #12
                        Originally posted by t-wizzle

                        Not sure what game you're talking about. Charlotte closed +12.5 and +1075 on the ML friday night at home against chicago.
                        I'm just saying I saw low MLs not correlating with the spread and the favs cashing either way
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                        • pro-style
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 07-20-10
                          • 177

                          #13
                          Lol, so I'm the idiot for not overreacting/drawing conclusions from a sample size of ONE game? I actually thought you were talking about the Bulls/Charlotte game which would be more significant in this situation.

                          People overreacting to such small samples is what allows for these market inefficiencies. Continue to be a square, us winners appreciate it.
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                          • Pauulzcappin
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 04-23-10
                            • 20295

                            #14
                            Originally posted by pro-style
                            Lol, so I'm the idiot for not overreacting/drawing conclusions from a sample size of ONE game? I actually thought you were talking about the Bulls/Charlotte game which would be more significant in this situation.

                            People overreacting to such small samples is what allows for these market inefficiencies. Continue to be a square, us winners appreciate it.


                            let me know when you have a documented full season as a winner on both MLB and NBA on this forum.

                            but whatever makes you sleep at night.
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                            • Yaniv
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 02-13-12
                              • 31

                              #15
                              Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                              only way Charlotte wins is if the game is fixed



                              True that.
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                              • PAULYPOKER
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 12-06-08
                                • 36581

                                #16
                                <table class="data" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><thead><tr><th class="first">Team</th><th>Open</th><th>
                                </th><th>Hilton</th><th>Caesars</th><th>MGM</th><th>Stations</th><th>Offshore</th><th>
                                </th><th class="trends" width="40">Side</th><th class="trends" width="40">Money</th><th class="trends" width="40">Total</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr class="time"> <td colspan="12" class="">02/13/2012 7:05 PM EST</td> </tr> <tr class="team odd"> <td style="text-transform:uppercase" class="name">501 PHILADELPHIA 76ERS</td><td>-11 </td><td class="">
                                </td><td class="highlight">-12 </td><td class="">-12 </td><td class="">-11.5 </td><td class="">-12.5 </td><td class="highlight">-12 -05</td><td class="">
                                </td><td class="trends">88%</td><td class="trends">40%</td><td class="trends">84%</td> </tr> <tr class="team even"> <td style="text-transform:uppercase" class="name">502 CHARLOTTE BOBCATS</td><td>177.5</td><td class="">
                                </td><td class="">
                                </td><td class="">178.5</td><td class="">178.5</td><td class="">179</td><td class="highlight">178.5o10</td><td class="">
                                </td><td class="trends">12%</td><td class="trends">60%</td><td class="trends">16%</td></tr></tbody></table>
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                                • FindTheLock
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 02-27-10
                                  • 7194

                                  #17
                                  It's the NBA where anything is possible. The bobcats are terrible, but they are an NBA team and that means that they could win on any given night against any team. Huge upsets happen all the time and people are still surprised when they happen again. I would never bet on the bobcats, but to think they have no shot at winning or covering a spread is not a good mind set in this game.
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                                  • Riceboi
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 10-03-11
                                    • 857

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                    only way Charlotte wins is if the game is fixed
                                    the 76ers might simply not care about this game, so they lose. I don't think the NBA as a whole is fixed.

                                    Originally posted by FindTheLock
                                    It's the NBA where anything is possible. The bobcats are terrible, but they are an NBA team and that means that they could win on any given night against any team. Huge upsets happen all the time and people are still surprised when they happen again. I would never bet on the bobcats, but to think they have no shot at winning or covering a spread is not a good mind set in this game.
                                    100% agree that's why i'm sticking to my unit size and not "going all in" on the 76ers. I will never bet on the bobcats the rest of this season, unless they are getting double digit points vs other shit teams (pistons, raptors, etc).
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                                    • jihadvillager
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-25-11
                                      • 2134

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                      <table class="data" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><thead><tr><th class="first">Team</th><th>Open</th><th>
                                      </th><th>Hilton</th><th>Caesars</th><th>MGM</th><th>Stations</th><th>Offshore</th><th>
                                      </th><th class="trends" width="40">Side</th><th class="trends" width="40">Money</th><th class="trends" width="40">Total</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr class="time"> <td colspan="12" class="">02/13/2012 7:05 PM EST</td> </tr> <tr class="team odd"> <td style="text-transform:uppercase" class="name">501 PHILADELPHIA 76ERS</td><td>-11 </td><td class="">
                                      </td><td class="highlight">-12 </td><td class="">-12 </td><td class="">-11.5 </td><td class="">-12.5 </td><td class="highlight">-12 -05</td><td class="">
                                      </td><td class="trends">88%</td><td class="trends">40%</td><td class="trends">84%</td> </tr> <tr class="team even"> <td style="text-transform:uppercase" class="name">502 CHARLOTTE BOBCATS</td><td>177.5</td><td class="">
                                      </td><td class="">
                                      </td><td class="">178.5</td><td class="">178.5</td><td class="">179</td><td class="highlight">178.5o10</td><td class="">
                                      </td><td class="trends">12%</td><td class="trends">60%</td><td class="trends">16%</td></tr></tbody></table>
                                      Any strong plays today pauly, or only leans on Louisville/ bobcats spread and under as you already hinted
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                                      • Xerxes
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 08-27-10
                                        • 231

                                        #20
                                        Them bobcats got this! The bout to make every basket they take !! Bobcats by 12 tonight!
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                                        • grizzy
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 09-18-11
                                          • 209

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                          <table class="data" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><thead><tr><th class="first">Team</th><th>Open</th><th>
                                          </th><th>Hilton</th><th>Caesars</th><th>MGM</th><th>Stations</th><th>Offshore</th><th>
                                          </th><th class="trends" width="40">Side</th><th class="trends" width="40">Money</th><th class="trends" width="40">Total</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr class="time"> <td colspan="12" class="">02/13/2012 7:05 PM EST</td> </tr> <tr class="team odd"> <td style="text-transform:uppercase" class="name">501 PHILADELPHIA 76ERS</td><td>-11 </td><td class="">
                                          </td><td class="highlight">-12 </td><td class="">-12 </td><td class="">-11.5 </td><td class="">-12.5 </td><td class="highlight">-12 -05</td><td class="">
                                          </td><td class="trends">88%</td><td class="trends">40%</td><td class="trends">84%</td> </tr> <tr class="team even"> <td style="text-transform:uppercase" class="name">502 CHARLOTTE BOBCATS</td><td>177.5</td><td class="">
                                          </td><td class="">
                                          </td><td class="">178.5</td><td class="">178.5</td><td class="">179</td><td class="highlight">178.5o10</td><td class="">
                                          </td><td class="trends">12%</td><td class="trends">60%</td><td class="trends">16%</td></tr></tbody></table>
                                          Yeah I don't get the bet volume on the Bobcats ML either.



                                          According to that site, there are more bets on the Bobcats ML then the Bobcats spread. Maybe I'm just over-thinking it, but it doesn't make sense to me that the Bobcats ML would generate this kind of volume.
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                                          • dshaffe4
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 11-08-11
                                            • 207

                                            #22
                                            Live in Charlotte, Bobcats are my team, going to the game, 76'ers roll by 15. Took 1H -6.5, Bank it.
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                                            • PAULYPOKER
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 12-06-08
                                              • 36581

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jihadvillager
                                              Any strong plays today pauly, or only leans on Louisville/ bobcats spread and under as you already hinted
                                              No strong plays today.......
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                                              • jihadvillager
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-25-11
                                                • 2134

                                                #24
                                                Thank you
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                                                • forzuto13
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 01-27-11
                                                  • 522

                                                  #25
                                                  I'll keep playing the opposite teams that can whoop Charlotte.
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                                                  • M.W.
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-07-08
                                                    • 1668

                                                    #26
                                                    The game might be fixed. Two of the refs are Bavetta and J. Crawford.
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                                                    • t-wizzle
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 12-18-09
                                                      • 38099

                                                      #27
                                                      taking a shot here with bobcats ml
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                                                      • BigDofBA
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 09-30-09
                                                        • 19313

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Pauulzcappin
                                                        Fukk me for not remembering 100%, but I think the ml was low as well on Chi @ NO and bulls won by like 25 pts.
                                                        Yeah. I think I was on the wrong end of that ass kicking.
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