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  • Goat Milk
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    • 03-24-10
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    #1
    The Knicks will win both games at home
    Doc Rivers made huge errors in game 2 and Dantoni is the type of coach that needs time to prepare and watch film to make adjustments. His play to give it to mello on the right wing at the end of game 2 was a huge error that essentially made the trap inevitable and ultimately led to a turnover. However, the Knicks have made it clear that they are going to give Rondo anything he wants in this series.

    Rivers, being up 2-0, has failed to realize the greatest mismatch of all in this series and that's Ray Allen. Even with his 24 in the first game, Doc did not utilize Ray enough. Toney Douglas and Landry Fields are both inexperienced defenders coming off screens and I wouldn't be surprised to see either of those guys get burned, but Rondo clearly wants to try and take control of the offense and more importantly, is hesitant to give the ball up early in the shot clock. This is on obvious mistake seen on film that a guy like Rivers will not pay attention to because the offense ran fairly efficiently. I know Rivers like the back of my hand and called the exact adjustments he made in the Magic series and in the finals against the lakers last year. He is not going to even be paying attention to offense here as he thinks defensively, Boston did not play championship defense.

    Watching the film again, there is nothing Boston is going to be able to adjust defensively against the Knicks in either home game. Carmello knows that he can create a shot for himself or others at any point in this game. There isn't 1 guy on Boston that can guard him, and Rivers is playing with fire trying to put guys like Jeff Green on him when Pierce needs a breather. You can double team Carmello all you want, but with Stoudemire back, and Billups for at least 1 of these games, the Celtics won't be so fortunate when doubling Melo. Rewatching the last play specifically where Anthony forced it into Jared Jefferies, Jared did not have any positioning on Garnett. Stoudemire would have made that play difficult for Garnett. The previous offensive possession for the Knicks where Jefferies got the pass on the left wing perimeter and had the easy lane to the bucket--with all the attention on Anthony he had a free lane but still did not finish with authority. Having stoudemire in the game in that instance, its not a layup, its a dunk, and perhaps and And1.

    In the first two games, when the Celts bench has been in the game, Rivers has tried to run a lot of his offense through Davis and Jeff Green in the post. Green is a good post player but with Jared Jefferies is solid on the defensive end and should be able to make it difficult for him at least, although Green is the much better player, he still has yet to find his role with the Celtics, especially on the road in the playoffs in big games like this. Another mistake is trying to run any offense whatsoever through Davis. Against any solid post defense like Turiaf or whoever it may be on that possession, Davis cannot play one on one and sometimes they've been giving it to him late in the shot clock and expecting him to create a shot. Even when the starting 5 are in the game, I don't care how good the celtics defense is, if Rondo and Rivers don't recognize that they have the biggest mismatch on the floor in Ray Allen (even bigger than any matchup on Anthony), they're not going to win these 2 games in the Garden.

    Rivers is in my opinion the best coach in the NBA, but his unwillingness to pay attention to his offense in these games is going to cost him big time. The problems with the Celtics are not defensively. There is nothing you can do against Carmello if he's having that type of night. It's just one of those nights, and clearly he is going to be able to get his anytime he wants. It doesn't matter if he is 7-20 shooting, he's going to create plays all night and with ball movement there is nothing Boston is going to be able to do to stop that. Rivers said "our offense will work itself out." I'm surprised to here him say this with all the recent offensive struggles by Boston (espeically in the palyoffs) in the past 3 years. Boston goes on COMPLETE dry spells offensively sometimes where they can't buy a bucket. You're not going to discourage a team like the Knicks by getting a few stops on them like you would other teams. You won't intimidate them.

    Stoudemire proved in the first game he can get anything he wants as well. I consider Garnett one of the better defenders in all of basketball, but I'll take Better O over Better D anyday. Rivers has also toyed with the idea of putting Davis on Stoudemire at certain times which was a complete joke, as this was the time that Stoudemire did his most damage.

    As far as both Benches, I do not trust Bostons bench on the road. A guy like Delonte West is solely a rhythm player. On an off night, if he misses a couple shots, he becomes hesitant to pull the trigger, sometimes only taking 2-3 shots in 20+ minutes of play. Toney Douglis is a tough matchup for any of the celtics players, specifically Ray Allen who doesn't like getting low and playing smaller guys- but rather, the stronger post players like Bryant where he is more effective. Other supporting guys like Bill Walker and Landry Fields should play well at home. With all the attention on Carmello even when Chancey and Stout were not in the game, these guys were getting free driving lanes to the bucket and they are both physical hard-nose players. Walker specifically had ALOT of open lanes and he was just not able to finish around the rim. In game 2, Walker was 0-11 and 0-5 from the arc. Walker is a mismatch off the bench for any Celtics player (off the bench), which explains why he is seeing a lot of minutes in this series. I expect Dantoni to divide the time more evenly between him and Landry Fields. Shawn Williams and Anthony Carter are both solid as they come on the defensive end for bench players. Roger Mason is another option that can come in and stretch the defense.

    Overall, The KNicks are going to live with Rondo thinking he can carry Boston offensively because that's not going to work for more than a game or 2. Boston is not utilizing its greatest mismatches, and their performances at home were downright PATHETIC. I don't care what the stats show. Besides the last 2 minutes where Boston played like the Championship team they are, they are in big trouble these games and will lose both in what I consider a Rivalry series, and in Rivalry series, Both teams win at home. These are starters games for Boston and I expect big games from Pierce, Ray and Garnett in these games for Boston to have a chance.


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  • politicin
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    • 01-14-11
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    #2
    Promise if they don't this will be your final farewell? Your picks get more ridiculous as each passing month goes by and at this point you're just a shell of a man. Hang it up and call it a night? Will you?
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    • Scorpion
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      • 09-04-05
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      #3
      Boston +4
      Dantoni has to be a dumbshit to think european style of play can win championships in the NBA, this ************ will never learn
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      • No coincidences
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        • 01-18-10
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        #4
        You just can't help yourself, can you Goat?
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        • Ralphie1412
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          • 01-29-08
          • 13963

          #5
          Boston backers just got erect.
          "This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
          Goat Milk
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          • chantrain
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            • 03-14-11
            • 3244

            #6
            good luck, i hope Knicks win at least 2 this series, but they need amare and billups....
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            • HoulihansTX
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              • 02-12-09
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              #7
              Potential burial thread.
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              • Grits n' Gravy
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                • 06-10-10
                • 13024

                #8
                i like celts plus points and ml. one of us is cashing. i'd like to say good luck, but that would be rooting for me to lose. nice write up though to support your decision. don'r agree with d'antoni being better by watching tape. if that was the case, wouldn't he have realized years ago that his teams play zero d? also, when you are counting on bill walker to produce for you in order to win, you are really stretching reality.
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                • pickemtowinem
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                  • 03-03-11
                  • 1446

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                  i like celts plus points and ml. one of us is cashing. i'd like to say good luck, but that would be rooting for me to lose. nice write up though to support your decision. don'r agree with d'antoni being better by watching tape. if that was the case, wouldn't he have realized years ago that his teams play zero d? also, when you are counting on bill walker to produce for you in order to win, you are really stretching reality.

                  after watching the first 2 games of this series, are you really saying the Knicks didn't play defense? cuz' it sure as hell looked like they were using defensive schematics that we didn't see during the regular season.


                  d'antoni is not the greatest coach in the world, but he can adjust.....
                  I dont know if the Knicks win both games at MSG, but tonight marks the first playoff game in the "house" and that place is gonna be AMPED da fuhk UP!

                  Knicks should be winners tonight....and I'm guessing the Knicks will be nasty hot from behind the arc tonight.

                  Knick + over looks like a solid play to this guy........
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                  • Hanlidin
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                    • 08-12-10
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                    #10
                    wrong knicks sweep celtiks
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                    • ad617
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                      • 01-03-10
                      • 97

                      #11
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                      • beerman2619
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                        • 12-24-09
                        • 7752

                        #12
                        Billups out and Amare hurting the Knicks are a
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                        • JOHON8
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                          • 01-28-10
                          • 7712

                          #13
                          This is the only game they can win, if they lose this the series is over.
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                          • demens
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                            • 10-22-10
                            • 2785

                            #14
                            Did anyone actually read his post? I didn't. I read the last one about how the great Celtics were going to wipe the Bulls off the court in Chicago. I dont think i'll be wasting any more time doing that again.

                            Almost forgot. Does he mention how great Amare is anywhere in the post?
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                            • 305GURU
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                              • 10-04-10
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                              #15
                              I locked in the knicks last night..and bought a point...i have them at -1...nice write up, i agree and think the knicks will get both games at the garden...best series ive seen in years
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                              • t-wizzle
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                                • 12-18-09
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                                #16
                                I don't know that the celtics don't get one of these games in new york. The knicks will take 1 though for sure and i think it comes tonight.
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                                • JR007
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                                  • 02-21-10
                                  • 5279

                                  #17
                                  .......hope Doc Rivers watches film too......Goatie............but" you know him like the back of your hand" so maybe he doesn't

                                  nice writeup though
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                                  • Scorpion
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                                    • 09-04-05
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by beerman2619
                                    Billups out and Amare hurting the Knicks are a
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                                    • Grits n' Gravy
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by pickemtowinem
                                      after watching the first 2 games of this series, are you really saying the Knicks didn't play defense? cuz' it sure as hell looked like they were using defensive schematics that we didn't see during the regular season.


                                      d'antoni is not the greatest coach in the world, but he can adjust.....
                                      I dont know if the Knicks win both games at MSG, but tonight marks the first playoff game in the "house" and that place is gonna be AMPED da fuhk UP!

                                      Knicks should be winners tonight....and I'm guessing the Knicks will be nasty hot from behind the arc tonight.

                                      Knick + over looks like a solid play to this guy........
                                      attribute a lot of that to poor execution by celtics on offense. when knicks needed a stop they didn't get one. d'antoni's track record speaks for itself in regards to defense. he'd be a hell of a college coach with young kids running the court and playing a tarkanian or nolan richardson brand of full court press.
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                                      • FR3SH like UgHH
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                                        • 04-27-10
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                                        #20
                                        "daaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn homie....last year u were the maaaaaaaaaan homie.....f*ck happend to u?" *50 voice*
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                                        • No coincidences
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                                          #21
                                          Ruh-roh.
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                                          • Ralphie1412
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                                            • 01-29-08
                                            • 13963

                                            #22
                                            Goat might be the worst self proclaimed expert I have ever heard.
                                            "This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
                                            Goat Milk
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                                            • No coincidences
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                                              • 01-18-10
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Ralphie1412
                                              Goat might be the worst self proclaimed expert I have ever heard.
                                              He's certainly on one of the coldest streaks this board has ever seen, all thing considered ("all things" meaning self-importance and supposed expertise).
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                                              • Love The Action
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                                                • 11-08-10
                                                • 10952

                                                #24
                                                Ouch...I'm not on the Knicks but they are sure screwing up my over play. WTF
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                                                • scholesy
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                                                  • 08-03-07
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                                                  #25
                                                  certainly hope this is right...
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                                                  • BettingWizard
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                                                    • 11-28-09
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                                                    #26
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                                                    • demens
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                                                      #27
                                                      Please leave and never come back. Ask the mods to delete your account so you're not tempted to share the next bright idea you have.
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                                                      • NYSportsGuy210
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                                                        • 11-07-09
                                                        • 11347

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                        Doc Rivers made huge errors in game 2 and Dantoni is the type of coach that needs time to prepare and watch film to make adjustments. His play to give it to mello on the right wing at the end of game 2 was a huge error that essentially made the trap inevitable and ultimately led to a turnover. However, the Knicks have made it clear that they are going to give Rondo anything he wants in this series.

                                                        Rivers, being up 2-0, has failed to realize the greatest mismatch of all in this series and that's Ray Allen. Even with his 24 in the first game, Doc did not utilize Ray enough. Toney Douglas and Landry Fields are both inexperienced defenders coming off screens and I wouldn't be surprised to see either of those guys get burned, but Rondo clearly wants to try and take control of the offense and more importantly, is hesitant to give the ball up early in the shot clock. This is on obvious mistake seen on film that a guy like Rivers will not pay attention to because the offense ran fairly efficiently. I know Rivers like the back of my hand and called the exact adjustments he made in the Magic series and in the finals against the lakers last year. He is not going to even be paying attention to offense here as he thinks defensively, Boston did not play championship defense.

                                                        Watching the film again, there is nothing Boston is going to be able to adjust defensively against the Knicks in either home game. Carmello knows that he can create a shot for himself or others at any point in this game. There isn't 1 guy on Boston that can guard him, and Rivers is playing with fire trying to put guys like Jeff Green on him when Pierce needs a breather. You can double team Carmello all you want, but with Stoudemire back, and Billups for at least 1 of these games, the Celtics won't be so fortunate when doubling Melo. Rewatching the last play specifically where Anthony forced it into Jared Jefferies, Jared did not have any positioning on Garnett. Stoudemire would have made that play difficult for Garnett. The previous offensive possession for the Knicks where Jefferies got the pass on the left wing perimeter and had the easy lane to the bucket--with all the attention on Anthony he had a free lane but still did not finish with authority. Having stoudemire in the game in that instance, its not a layup, its a dunk, and perhaps and And1.

                                                        In the first two games, when the Celts bench has been in the game, Rivers has tried to run a lot of his offense through Davis and Jeff Green in the post. Green is a good post player but with Jared Jefferies is solid on the defensive end and should be able to make it difficult for him at least, although Green is the much better player, he still has yet to find his role with the Celtics, especially on the road in the playoffs in big games like this. Another mistake is trying to run any offense whatsoever through Davis. Against any solid post defense like Turiaf or whoever it may be on that possession, Davis cannot play one on one and sometimes they've been giving it to him late in the shot clock and expecting him to create a shot. Even when the starting 5 are in the game, I don't care how good the celtics defense is, if Rondo and Rivers don't recognize that they have the biggest mismatch on the floor in Ray Allen (even bigger than any matchup on Anthony), they're not going to win these 2 games in the Garden.

                                                        Rivers is in my opinion the best coach in the NBA, but his unwillingness to pay attention to his offense in these games is going to cost him big time. The problems with the Celtics are not defensively. There is nothing you can do against Carmello if he's having that type of night. It's just one of those nights, and clearly he is going to be able to get his anytime he wants. It doesn't matter if he is 7-20 shooting, he's going to create plays all night and with ball movement there is nothing Boston is going to be able to do to stop that. Rivers said "our offense will work itself out." I'm surprised to here him say this with all the recent offensive struggles by Boston (espeically in the palyoffs) in the past 3 years. Boston goes on COMPLETE dry spells offensively sometimes where they can't buy a bucket. You're not going to discourage a team like the Knicks by getting a few stops on them like you would other teams. You won't intimidate them.

                                                        Stoudemire proved in the first game he can get anything he wants as well. I consider Garnett one of the better defenders in all of basketball, but I'll take Better O over Better D anyday. Rivers has also toyed with the idea of putting Davis on Stoudemire at certain times which was a complete joke, as this was the time that Stoudemire did his most damage.

                                                        As far as both Benches, I do not trust Bostons bench on the road. A guy like Delonte West is solely a rhythm player. On an off night, if he misses a couple shots, he becomes hesitant to pull the trigger, sometimes only taking 2-3 shots in 20+ minutes of play. Toney Douglis is a tough matchup for any of the celtics players, specifically Ray Allen who doesn't like getting low and playing smaller guys- but rather, the stronger post players like Bryant where he is more effective. Other supporting guys like Bill Walker and Landry Fields should play well at home. With all the attention on Carmello even when Chancey and Stout were not in the game, these guys were getting free driving lanes to the bucket and they are both physical hard-nose players. Walker specifically had ALOT of open lanes and he was just not able to finish around the rim. In game 2, Walker was 0-11 and 0-5 from the arc. Walker is a mismatch off the bench for any Celtics player (off the bench), which explains why he is seeing a lot of minutes in this series. I expect Dantoni to divide the time more evenly between him and Landry Fields. Shawn Williams and Anthony Carter are both solid as they come on the defensive end for bench players. Roger Mason is another option that can come in and stretch the defense.

                                                        Overall, The KNicks are going to live with Rondo thinking he can carry Boston offensively because that's not going to work for more than a game or 2. Boston is not utilizing its greatest mismatches, and their performances at home were downright PATHETIC. I don't care what the stats show. Besides the last 2 minutes where Boston played like the Championship team they are, they are in big trouble these games and will lose both in what I consider a Rivalry series, and in Rivalry series, Both teams win at home. These are starters games for Boston and I expect big games from Pierce, Ray and Garnett in these games for Boston to have a chance.


                                                        $550 on the Knicks -3
                                                        $320 to win $200 on the Knicks -160

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                                                        • Scorpion
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                                                          • Scorpion
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                                                            #30
                                                            Dantoni sucks ass
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                                                            • politicin
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                                                              #31
                                                              Goat Milk just called me and told me the Knicks were about to make a 30-0 run... I obviously jammed all in on the live line
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                                                              • No coincidences
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                                                                #32
                                                                I went all in on the Knicks +325000000 based on this thread.

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                                                                • jsmithj88
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  kinda makes that long ass writeup a waste of time
                                                                  sometimes all that capping, research, etc doesnt matter cuz gambling is gambling
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                                                                  • Hoopster17
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                                                                    • 06-01-10
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    no one knows the nba better
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                                                                    • coinflipper
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      wrote up a thesis and it wasn't even close, gotta love that
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