SOLID LONG TERM WINNING OVER / UNDER PLAYOFF SYSTEM (15-6-1 in 2010)

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  • goldengreek
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    • 09-25-07
    • 8340

    #1
    SOLID LONG TERM WINNING OVER / UNDER PLAYOFF SYSTEM (15-6-1 in 2010)
    LOOKS LIKE THE UNDER IS SOLID IN GAMES WHEN A TEAM IS FACING ELIMINATION


    HERE IS A BREAKDOWN OF PAST YEARS-- THE UNDER IS THE FIRST TOTAL SHOWN IN THE RECORDS


    ***NUMBERS FROM 2004 THRU 2010 PLAYOFFS****
    (SEE 2009 & 2010 TRACKING RESULTS BELOW)

    Since keeping records starting with the 03-04 post season, the stats I've accumulated (based on opening lines & regulation scores) for all Elimination games* total results are as follows:


    Overall SINCE 2003/2004

    All Elimination Games: U/O 80-49-3

    Elimination Games being game 4 or 5 of a Series: U/O 29-28-2
    Elimination Games being game 6 or 7 of a Series: U/O 51-21-1



    1st Round of playoffs

    All Elimination Games: U/O 40-26-1

    Elimination Games being game 4 or 5 of a Series: U/O 20-14-1
    Elimination Games being game 6 or 7 of a Series: U/O 20-12



    2nd Round & onwards of playoffs

    All Elimination Games: U/O 40-23-2

    Elimination Games being game 4 or 5 of a Series: U/O 9-14-1
    Elimination Games being game 6 or 7 of a Series: U/O 31-9-1


    Clearly the prime spot to take Unders are in a game 6 or 7 taking place during the 2nd round or beyond, when both teams have a series win under their belts and are both winners of at least 2 games in the current series.



    2009 RESULTS

    OVERALL

    ALL ELIM GAMES 12-9

    ELIM GAME 4 OR 5 ....5-4
    ELIM GAME 6 OR 7 ....7-5


    1ST ROUND 6-4

    ELIM GAME 4 OR 5.... 3-1
    ELIM GAME 6 OR 7... 3-3



    2ND ROUND AND BEYOND 6-5

    ELIM GAME 4 OR 5... 2-3
    ELIM GAME 6 OR 7 ....4-2



    1ST ROUND 6-4 U/O

    CAVS ELIM GAME 4 UNDER
    PISTONS

    HEAT ELIM GAME 6 - UNDER
    HAWKS ELIM GAME 7 -UNDER


    MAGIC ELIM GAME 6 - OVER
    76ERS


    CELTICS ELIM GAME 6 -OVER
    BULLS ELIM GAME 7 -OVER


    LAKERS ELIM GAME 5 -UNDER
    JAZZ


    ROCKETS ELIM GAME 6 -UNDER
    BLAZERS


    NUGGETS ELIM GAME 5 - UNDER
    HORNETS


    MAVS ELIM GAME 5 ---OVER
    SPURS




    2ND ROUND 5-2 U/0

    CAVS ELIM GAME 4 -UNDER
    HAWKS

    MAGIC ELIM GAME 6 ---UNDER
    CELTICS ELIM GAME 7-- UNDER


    LAKERS ELIM GAME 6 --UNDER
    ROCKETS ELIM GAME 7-- UNDER


    NUGGETS ELIM GAME 4--- OVER
    MAVS ELIM GAME 5 ---OVER



    3RD ROUND 0-3 U/0


    CAVS ELIM GAME 5-- OVER
    MAGIC ELIM GAME 6--- OVER

    LAKERS ELIM GAME 6 ---OVER
    NUGGETS



    FINALS 1-0 U/0

    LAKERS LAKERS GAME 5--- UNDER
    MAGIC





    2010 PLAYOFFS


    OVERALL

    ALL ELIM GAMES: 15-6-1


    ELIM GAME 4 OR 5: 4-6-1
    ELIM GAME 6 OR 7 : 11-0


    1ST ROUND 9-3

    ELIM GAME 4 OR 5: 3-3
    ELIM GAME 6 OR 7: 6-0


    2ND ROUND AND BEYOND 6-3-1

    ELIM GAME 4 OR 5 : 1-3-1
    ELIM GAME 6 OR 7: 5-0



    14-2 ALL GAME 5'S AND BEYOND


    1ST ROUND 9-3 U/O

    CAVS -ELIM GAME 5 UNDER 199.5 -CAVS 96 BULLS 94
    BULLS


    HEAT -ELIM GAME 4 OVER 186 -HEAT 101 CELTICS 92
    CELTICS -ELIM GAME 5 UNDER 188 -CELTICS 96 HEAT 86


    HAWKS - ELIM GAME 6 UNDER 190 -HAWKS 83 BUCKS 69
    BUCKS -ELIM GAME 7 UNDER 185.5 -HAWKS 95 BUCKS 74


    MAGIC - ELIM GAME 4 OVER 184 -MAGIC 99 BOBCATS 90
    BOBCATS


    LAKERS -ELIM GAME 6 UNDER 195 -LAKERS 95 THUNDER 94
    THUNDER


    NUGGETS -ELIM GAME 5 OVER 215 -NUGGETS 116 JAZZ 102
    JAZZ -ELIM GAME 6 UNDER 217.5 -JAZZ 112 NUGGETS 104


    BLAZERS -ELIM GAME 6 UNDER 202 -SUNS 99 BLAZERS 90
    SUNS


    SPURS -ELIM GAME 5 UNDER 193 -MAVS 103 SPURS 81
    MAVS -ELIM GAME 6 UNDER 191 -SPURS 97 MAVS 87




    2ND ROUND 2-1-1 U/O


    CAVS - ELIM GAME 6 UNDER 196 ...CELTICS 94 CAVS 85
    CELTICS

    HAWKS - ELIM GAME 4 UNDER 193... MAGIC 98 HAWKS 84
    MAGIC

    LAKERS -ELIM GAME 4 PUSH 207.... LAKERS 111 JAZZ 96
    JAZZ

    SPURS -ELIM GAME 4 OVER 207... SUNS 107 SPURS 101
    SUNS



    3RD ROUND 2-2 U/O


    MAGIC -ELIM GAME 4 OVER 187... MAGIC 96 CELTICS 92 OT
    CELTICS -ELIM GAME 5 OVER 186... MAGIC 113 CELTICS 92
    .............-ELIM GAME 6 UNDER 189... CELTICS 96 MAGIC 84


    LAKERS -ELIM GAME 6 UNDER 216 ....LAKERS 111 SUNS 103
    SUNS



    FINALS 2-0 U/O


    CELTICS -ELIM GAME 6 UNDER 189 ......LAKERS 89 CELTICS 67
    LAKERS -ELIM GAME 7 UNDER 186...... LAKERS 83 CELTICS 79
  • himeshforex
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    • 05-29-09
    • 1414

    #2
    nice stuff !! one more nuke in our arsenal
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    • Petenana15
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      • 03-07-11
      • 1441

      #3
      good stuff man, can't wait to see your picks! Are you more confident in the playoffs or regular season. Some people love the playoffs.
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      • goldengreek
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-25-07
        • 8340

        #4
        Originally posted by petenana15
        good stuff man, can't wait to see your picks! Are you more confident in the playoffs or regular season. Some people love the playoffs.

        i do well in the playoffs...but i prefer the regular season.. There are days in the playoffs wereyou are forced to pick from 3-4 games

        in the regular season you can pick and choose from 8-12 games any given day
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        • ClimbSomeRocks
          SBR MVP
          • 11-04-09
          • 1081

          #5
          I always thought the playoffs were the hardest to cap. Looks like you do well - GL
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          • jcygts6
            SBR MVP
            • 04-05-09
            • 3316

            #6
            thanks for the useful info
            DO WORK + KROW OD
            do work! do work! do work! do work!
            od krow! od krow! od krow! od krow!
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            • MrXYZ
              SBR MVP
              • 02-18-11
              • 2342

              #7
              thanks for sharing this info GG. I figured the Under would have a better chance of hitting in the playoffs, but thought the bookies would set lower totals to compensate.
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              • kobefanatic
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-19-10
                • 9013

                #8
                thanks fro sharing this GG
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                • demens
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-22-10
                  • 2785

                  #9


                  2006 10-12
                  2005 10-15
                  2002 9-17

                  108-84 overall since 2002 (56%).

                  Not 60+ but not bad, just know there is no magic angle thats just gonna win games for you. You can easily have a losing run doing this. I'm sure if there was data going past the 2002 season it would level out closer to 50% like pretty much any other angle.
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                  • kobefanatic
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-19-10
                    • 9013

                    #10
                    GG any leans for saturday games?
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                    • goldengreek
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 09-25-07
                      • 8340

                      #11
                      Originally posted by demens
                      http://sportsdatabase.com/nba.py/que...t=query_header

                      2006 10-12
                      2005 10-15
                      2002 9-17

                      108-84 overall since 2002 (56%).

                      Not 60+ but not bad, just know there is no magic angle thats just gonna win games for you. You can easily have a losing run doing this. I'm sure if there was data going past the 2002 season it would level out closer to 50% like pretty much any other angle.


                      AND 62% SINCE 2003 WHICH IS WHAT I POSTED ( YOUR FIGURES ARE A BIT OFF )

                      SO YOU HAVE TO BRING OUT 2002 TO DROP IT DOWN TO 60 % ??

                      I ASSUME THE THREE YRS YOU POSTED WERE THE ONLY THREE YRS THIS SYSTEM DIDNT DO WELL ?

                      SO ITS BEEN HITTING AT 70 % PLUS FOR 6 OF THE LAST 9 YRS IF YOU TAKE OUT THE THREE YRS U POINTED OUT


                      MAN.... U ARE JUST A MISERABLE PERSON
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                      • goldengreek
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-25-07
                        • 8340

                        #12
                        Originally posted by kobefanatic
                        gg any leans for saturday games?

                        not yet... Tomorrow looks tough
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                        • lyon804
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                          • 11-02-09
                          • 6526

                          #13
                          Thanks for sharing.
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                          • demens
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-22-10
                            • 2785

                            #14
                            Originally posted by goldengreek


                            AND 62% SINCE 2003 WHICH IS WHAT I POSTED ( YOUR FIGURES ARE A BIT OFF )

                            SO YOU HAVE TO BRING OUT 2002 TO DROP IT DOWN TO 60 % ??

                            I ASSUME THE THREE YRS YOU POSTED WERE THE ONLY THREE YRS THIS SYSTEM DIDNT DO WELL ?

                            SO ITS BEEN HITTING AT 70 % PLUS FOR 6 OF THE LAST 9 YRS IF YOU TAKE OUT THE THREE YRS U POINTED OUT


                            MAN.... U ARE JUST A MISERABLE PERSON

                            What are you laughing at exactly? And why are you still posting in caps, whats wrong with you?

                            I "have" to bring up 2002 cause thats as far as the database goes dumbass. And yes I "have" to include it to bring down the % because you dont get to cherry pick data that only fits to what you're pushing.

                            Yeah, those 3 years are only years the system lost. DING, DING, that was my point, you got it, thank god Solid long term winning system had losing season. There is no magic angle that hits 70%.

                            Not sure what you're spazzing over. I posted additional info about your system for people to know. The info is accurate and valuable but you're freaking out again. You have some issues bud.
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                            • BigDeem5
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 02-26-11
                              • 17191

                              #15
                              This system is invincable
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                              • goldengreek
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-25-07
                                • 8340

                                #16
                                Bump
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                                • Love The Action
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-08-10
                                  • 10952

                                  #17
                                  So do you think Bulls/Pacers go under because of this trend? I must admit that I thought of this post before making my play on the over, however, as you noted, the real under leans come when the elimination games are in games 6 and 7 of the series rather than 4 or 5. What are your thoughts on the Bulls total?
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                                  • goldengreek
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-25-07
                                    • 8340

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Love The Action
                                    So do you think Bulls/Pacers go under because of this trend? I must admit that I thought of this post before making my play on the over, however, as you noted, the real under leans come when the elimination games are in games 6 and 7 of the series rather than 4 or 5. What are your thoughts on the Bulls total?

                                    IT IS BETTER IF THE ELIMINATION GAMES ARE GAME 6 OF 7

                                    AND ITS BETTER IN THE LATER ROUNDS

                                    TODAYS GAME IS A 50/50

                                    JUST READ IT PIECE BY PIECE.... I WOULDNT PLAY THE UNDER IN THE BULLS GANE BASED ON WHAT THE #'s SAY
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                                    • iMxth3xbossx5000
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-11-09
                                      • 4983

                                      #19
                                      Greek alot of the BIG named handicappers out there seem to really like the Bulls/Pacers over 187.5. It's hard to see that happening based on how both teams have played such good defense against each other in the series, but should we trust our gut, go with the over???
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                                      • Wojo
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-19-10
                                        • 1764

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by demens
                                        http://sportsdatabase.com/nba.py/que...t=query_header

                                        2006 10-12
                                        2005 10-15
                                        2002 9-17

                                        108-84 overall since 2002 (56%).

                                        Not 60+ but not bad, just know there is no magic angle thats just gonna win games for you. You can easily have a losing run doing this. I'm sure if there was data going past the 2002 season it would level out closer to 50% like pretty much any other angle.
                                        Thanks for posting that, Demens. Don't understand why Greek blew a gasket. I appreciate the fact he posted the info he did, you just gave an extra year and broke it down season by season.

                                        Thanks to both of you for the information!
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                                        • goldengreek
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-25-07
                                          • 8340

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by iMxth3xbossx5000
                                          Greek alot of the BIG named handicappers out there seem to really like the Bulls/Pacers over 187.5. It's hard to see that happening based on how both teams have played such good defense against each other in the series, but should we trust our gut, go with the over???

                                          you lost me here... where does it say to play the over ?

                                          and fuk the services.. if anything FADE their ass !!!
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                                          • BigBoi
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 04-01-11
                                            • 1084

                                            #22
                                            Looking like this is the case again in CHI/IND.
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                                            • goldengreek
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 09-25-07
                                              • 8340

                                              #23
                                              3-0 so far this yr

                                              bulls / indy game 4 -- under
                                              bost / ny game 4 --- - under
                                              philly / miami game 4 -under
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                                              • Duby
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-26-09
                                                • 3608

                                                #24
                                                That is good info. Thanks for sharing
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                                                • demens
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 10-22-10
                                                  • 2785

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by goldengreek
                                                  3-0 so far this yr

                                                  bulls / indy game 4 -- under
                                                  bost / ny game 4 --- - under
                                                  philly / miami game 4 -under
                                                  So its 3-0 but
                                                  Originally posted by goldengreek
                                                  IT IS BETTER IF THE ELIMINATION GAMES ARE GAME 6 OF 7

                                                  AND ITS BETTER IN THE LATER ROUNDS

                                                  TODAYS GAME IS A 50/50


                                                  JUST READ IT PIECE BY PIECE.... I WOULDNT PLAY THE UNDER IN THE BULLS GANE BASED ON WHAT THE #'s SAY
                                                  Wonder if that game would have counted if it lost.
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                                                  • goldengreek
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 09-25-07
                                                    • 8340

                                                    #26
                                                    (7-4-1 in 2011) ----> 8-3-1 if wade dosent go in for the dunk at the buzzer like a jerk off
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                                                    • NBA_Brosuf
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 02-14-11
                                                      • 2489

                                                      #27
                                                      If last year is 15-6 then this year, it is not looking so well. Just 2 more overs and you will get x-6 in 2011.

                                                      Dodging 2 in 8 more games left? Hrmmmm
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                                                      • goldengreek
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 09-25-07
                                                        • 8340

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by goldengreek
                                                        LOOKS LIKE THE UNDER IS SOLID IN GAMES WHEN A TEAM IS FACING ELIMINATION


                                                        HERE IS A BREAKDOWN OF PAST YEARS-- THE UNDER IS THE FIRST TOTAL SHOWN IN THE RECORDS


                                                        ***NUMBERS FROM 2004 THRU 2010 PLAYOFFS****
                                                        (SEE 2009 & 2010 TRACKING RESULTS BELOW)

                                                        Since keeping records starting with the 03-04 post season, the stats I've accumulated (based on opening lines & regulation scores) for all Elimination games* total results are as follows:


                                                        Overall SINCE 2003/2004

                                                        All Elimination Games: U/O 80-49-3

                                                        Elimination Games being game 4 or 5 of a Series: U/O 29-28-2
                                                        Elimination Games being game 6 or 7 of a Series: U/O 51-21-1






                                                        2nd Round & onwards of playoffs

                                                        All Elimination Games: U/O 40-23-2

                                                        Elimination Games being game 4 or 5 of a Series: U/O 9-14-1
                                                        Elimination Games being game 6 or 7 of a Series: U/O 31-9-1


                                                        Clearly the prime spot to take Unders are in a game 6 or 7 taking place during the 2nd round or beyond, when both teams have a series win under their belts and are both winners of at least 2 games in the current series.



                                                        2009 RESULTS

                                                        OVERALL

                                                        ALL ELIM GAMES 12-9

                                                        ELIM GAME 4 OR 5 ....5-4
                                                        ELIM GAME 6 OR 7 ....7-5


                                                        1ST ROUND 6-4

                                                        ELIM GAME 4 OR 5.... 3-1
                                                        ELIM GAME 6 OR 7... 3-3



                                                        2ND ROUND AND BEYOND 6-5

                                                        ELIM GAME 4 OR 5... 2-3
                                                        ELIM GAME 6 OR 7 ....4-2








                                                        2010 PLAYOFFS


                                                        OVERALL

                                                        ALL ELIM GAMES: 15-6-1


                                                        ELIM GAME 4 OR 5: 4-6-1
                                                        ELIM GAME 6 OR 7 : 11-0




                                                        2ND ROUND AND BEYOND 6-3-1

                                                        ELIM GAME 4 OR 5 : 1-3-1
                                                        ELIM GAME 6 OR 7: 5-0



                                                        14-2 ALL GAME 5'S AND BEYOND




                                                        ..........
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                                                        • Speedy88
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 03-19-11
                                                          • 11717

                                                          #29
                                                          Under for the LA game is looking even sweeter now....
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                                                          • NBA_Brosuf
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 02-14-11
                                                            • 2489

                                                            #30
                                                            Question.

                                                            Since the regular season starts in 2010, is this playoff the 2010 or 2011?
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                                                            • ManBearPig
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 12-04-08
                                                              • 2473

                                                              #31
                                                              2010 Playoffs...tied to the 2010-2011 season
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                                                              • JR007
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                                                                • 02-21-10
                                                                • 5279

                                                                #32
                                                                Thanks greek
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                                                                • linedrivr
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-04-10
                                                                  • 2223

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Speedy88
                                                                  Under for the LA game is looking even sweeter now....
                                                                  you should go back and read those records that GG posted again. The Under is NOT a strong play today in the Lakers elimination game.
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