sonny alot of shit is going down in the denver locker room about melo leaving !grant hill is hurt but denver is banged up check out how many nagging injuries they have listed!the suns have grant hill hurt but that menas jared dudley who has been on fire gets more minutes!
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#2697Nuggets threaten to trade ‘Melo to N.Y.
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports 54 minutes ago
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Before resuming trade talks for Carmelo Anthony(notes) on Monday, the Denver Nuggets delivered a stern warning to the New Jersey Nets: Unless the public nature of these trade discussions becomes private, be warned that we will send Anthony to the New York Knicks.
Nothing else the Nuggets could’ve said would send such chills of unease through the Nets, and that’s why Denver made the threat, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
Would the Nuggets do such a thing out of spite? Would they take a lesser package out of vengeance? No one could be sure, but it sure delivered one more element of drama and intrigue to these trade talks.
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The Nets continued to negotiate with the Nuggets about a trade for Carmelo Anthony.
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Indeed, the tone of the discussions between the Nuggets and Nets dramatically changed on Monday. Executives went underground with talks, and several agents were frustrated they could no longer get information from the two teams about where the talks stood. Sources still believed the Nets and Nuggets had the framework of a deal, but the talks had retreated from what one source deemed “really close” on Sunday.
Multiple sources involved in the trade said Tuesday they still expect the deal to get done, but probably not in the next 48 hours.
Denver pushed a reset button on the three-team blockbuster as it wanted more payroll relief and seemed determined to find a way to shed themselves of the four years and $28 million left on Al Harrington’s(notes) contract. For a young Nuggets management team under siege, this threat was something of a show of muscle.
The Detroit Pistons remained a partner in the three-team talks and the general mangers – Denver’s Masai Ujiri and New Jersey’s Billy King – worked throughout Monday on solutions, sources said.
The Nets and Pistons believed they had an arrangement in place Sunday that would’ve sent Anthony, Nuggets point guard Chauncey Billups(notes) and Pistons guard Richard Hamilton(notes) to the Nets as part of the blockbuster deal. Once the Nets and Pistons worked out the details of a side component to the 13-player deal on Sunday afternoon, the two teams were surprised to find Ujiri wanting to replace players in the framework of the overall trade, sources said.
Anthony’s agent, Leon Rose, has worked relentlessly to help structure the package of players that will arrive in New Jersey with Anthony.
Nuggets officials were angry with the insinuation they had backed away, insisting they never agreed to a scenario where they would complete the deal. As one Denver official told Yahoo! Sports late Sunday, “People are trying to pressure us.”
[Rewind: LeBron booed at Melo’s New York wedding]
Still, everyone involved in the trade believed the Nuggets had come too far to walk away, and talks continued between Ujiri and King.
The proposed trade will send Anthony, Hamilton, Billups, Nuggets guard Anthony Carter(notes) and forward Shelden Williams(notes) to the Nets. The Nuggets will receive two first-round picks from the Nets, point guard Devin Harris(notes), rookie forward Derrick Favors(notes), guards Anthony Morrow(notes), Ben Uzoh(notes), Stephen Graham(notes) and Quinton Ross(notes). The Pistons will get Nets forward Troy Murphy(notes) and center Johan Petro(notes).
The Nets and Pistons have all but completed a component of the trade that exchanges Murphy for Hamilton, sources said. The teams have agreed to include Petro, who has two years and $6.75 million left on his contract after this season, but were still working out whether Detroit would receive a draft pick. The Pistons are motivated to unload the remaining two years and $25 million on Hamilton’s contract for Murphy’s $12 million expiring deal.
The Nets were assisting the Pistons in finding another team to move Petro onto because Detroit – in the midst of an ownership sale – needs maximum financial savings for its payroll. New Jersey and Detroit were surprised on Sunday night when Denver allowed the players included in the proposed trade to play in a game against the New Orleans Hornets. The Nets believed they had fulfilled Denver’s requirements only to find the Nuggets wanted to rearrange parts in the 13-player deal.
Billups would prefer to stay in Denver, but to make him more comfortable about the trade, the Nets are expected to commit to paying him the full $14.2 million he’s due next season in the final year of his contract rather than buying him out for just $3.7 million this summer, league sources told Y! Sports’ Marc Spears. Billups’ agent, Andy Miller, had said Saturday that his client would immediately seek a buyout if he wasn’t happy with the trade.
The Knicks remain Anthony’s preferred destination, but Ujiri has told Knicks president Donnie Walsh that his team doesn’t have the assets Denver wants. When Walsh has asked Ujiri to provide him with a list of the Nuggets’ desires, whether it be draft picks or specific players from other teams, sources said Ujiri has been unresponsive.
Rose has been the driving force behind bringing Hamilton into the talks, league sources said. Rose also represents Hamilton, and sources said he pushed King to bring the Pistons into trade talks with New Jersey and the Nuggets. Anthony has wanted the Nets to upgrade their roster upon his arrival for him to sign an extension.
“Leon is driving this one,” one front-office executive told Yahoo! Sports on Friday night.
With Anthony’s agent so heavily involved in brokering particular players in the deal, the Nets are working under a belief that a proposed package to bring them Hamilton and Billups would be sufficient to sell Anthony on joining them over the Knicks.
Rose and William Wesley of CAA have long wanted to get Anthony and another of their clients, New Orleans Hornets point guard Chris Paul(notes), to the Nets as the franchise prepares for a move to Brooklyn, N.Y. For now, Rose is pushing hard to get a suitable package together for Denver to get his client off a team he longer wants to play for.
The Record of Hackensack, N.J., first reported that New Jersey had engaged Detroit in the talks on Friday.
Most league executives were uncertain as to why Anthony would believe Billups and Hamilton, ages 34 and 32, respectively, would be tantalizing. Nevertheless, Denver has shown little interest in negotiating a trade with New York and believes Anthony doesn’t want to risk free agency this offseason when a new labor agreement could cost him tens of millions of dollars in guaranteed money.
As Yahoo! Sports first reported on Dec. 14, the Nets want the chance to use Russian billionaire owner Mikhail Prokhorov to personally sell Anthony on signing a coComment -
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#2698NBA Injuries
Team Date Injury Atlanta Hawks Pape Sy GF Oct 28, 2010 Back
Boston Celtics Kevin Garnett PF Dec 29, 2010 Right leg injury Delonte West G Nov 24, 2010 Broken right wrist Kendrick Perkins C Oct 28, 2010 Right knee - out 3 months
Charlotte Bobcats Nazr Mohammed C Jan 5, 2011 Bruised right knee Gerald Wallace F Jan 3, 2011 Left ankle DeSagana Diop FC Jan 3, 2011 Ruptured right Achilles' tendon
Chicago Bulls Joakim Noah FC Dec 16, 2010 Right thumb surgery - out 8-10 weeks
Cleveland Cavaliers Anderson Varejao FC Jan 7, 2011 Torn right ankle tendon - out for season Leon Powe FC Jan 7, 2011 Right knee Daniel Gibson G Jan 7, 2011 Sprained left ankle Anthony Parker GF Jan 5, 2011 Sore back Joey Graham GF Dec 18, 2010 Strained right quadriceps
Dallas Mavericks Caron Butler GF Jan 1, 2011 Sore right knee Dirk Nowitzki PF Dec 27, 2010 Sore right knee Rodrigue Beaubois G Oct 27, 2010 Fractured left foot
Denver Nuggets No injuries reported
Detroit Pistons Ben Wallace FC Jan 10, 2011 Left game - sprained ankle Terrico White G Oct 28, 2010 Foot - out indefinitely Jonas Jerebko F Oct 28, 2010 Achilles - out 5 months
Golden State Warriors No injuries reported
Houston Rockets Brad Miller C Jan 10, 2011 Sore knee Kevin Martin SG Jan 10, 2011 Sore wrist Chuck Hayes FC Dec 30, 2010 Sprained right ankle Yao Ming C Nov 10, 2010 Strained tendon in left leg
Indiana Pacers No injuries reported
Los Angeles Clippers Craig Smith PF Dec 21, 2010 Herniated disc Chris Kaman C Dec 10, 2010 Left ankle sprain - out 3-4 weeks
Los Angeles Lakers Matt Barnes GF Jan 8, 2011 Sprained right knee Theo Ratliff C Nov 12, 2010 Knee tendinitis
Memphis Grizzlies No injuries reported
Miami Heat Udonis Haslem FC Nov 20, 2010 Left leg
Milwaukee Bucks Drew Gooden FC Jan 10, 2011 Sore foot Brandon Jennings PG Dec 20, 2010 Broken foot Carlos Delfino GF Nov 9, 2010 Neck strain Michael Redd GF Oct 28, 2010 Knee surgery - out indefinitely
Minnesota Timberwolves Michael Beasley F Jan 9, 2011 Left game-ankle
New Jersey Nets Devin Harris PG Jan 7, 2011 Right quad contusion Anthony Morrow GF Dec 27, 2010 Hamstring injury Damion James GF Dec 13, 2010 Broken right foot
New Orleans Hornets No injuries reported
New York Knicks Danilo Gallinari SF Jan 2, 2011 Sprained knee Eddy Curry C Oct 28, 2010 Hamstring - out indefinitely Kelenna Azubuike GF Oct 28, 2010 Knee - out indefinitely
Oklahoma City Thunder Byron Mullens C Jan 3, 2011 Stomach virus
Orlando Magic Malik Allen FC Dec 20, 2010 Leg injury
Philadelphia 76ers Andre Iguodala GF Dec 27, 2010 Sore Achilles tendon
Phoenix Suns Grant Hill F Jan 9, 2011 Left game - sprained right knee Gani Lawal PF Jan 6, 2011 Torn ACL in right knee - out for season
Portland Trail Blazers Brandon Roy GF Dec 17, 2010 knee Elliot Williams SG Nov 4, 2010 Dislocated right patella Greg Oden C Oct 28, 2010 Knee
Sacramento Kings Tyreke Evans G Jan 9, 2011 Sprained left ankle
San Antonio Spurs James Anderson SG Nov 11, 2010 Fractured right foot
Toronto Raptors Sonny Weems GF Dec 18, 2010 Back spasms Peja Stojakovic GF Dec 1, 2010 Swollen left knee Reggie Evans PF Nov 28, 2010 Broken bone in right foot
Utah Jazz Mehmet Okur C Jan 2, 2011 Strained back
Washington Wizards Josh Howard GF Jan 7, 2011 Left knee sorenessComment -
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#2699sonny do you like them because he appoligized to his team when they threatened to send him to new jersey or ghll injury or cause the suns svck ?/??he might be motivated to show his team he wants to stay and win with them~!!~!1Comment -
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#2700i think you maybe right sonny they might come out motivated i aint trying to dog your pick buddy!that artical scared meComment -
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#2701ncaab
nc st/bc o/u 144.5 under 3x
mich st -4 2x
illinois -4.5 2x
uconn 1h -5.5 2x
mich st 1h -2 1x
ill/ psu o/u 135 over 1x
uconn -11 1x
bowling green +9 1x
nc st/bc 1h o/u 67 under 1x
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#2702texas texas tech under 69 1h 2x
mich st -2 1h 2x
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illionois -4.5 2x
denver thuggets -4.5 for my boy sonny 2x
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#2703Ayo gonna tail you on the under NC St, the line is moving the wrong direction though. My book has it at 146.5Comment -
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#2704nba
kings game 1st quarter under 49.5 3x
pacers 1st quarter +1.5 3xLETS GET ITComment -
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#2706wisc +4 2nd half 5xLETS GET ITComment -
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#2708tenn ml 1x
knicks +4 1x
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#2711college hoops
2half bc/scarolina o/u under 75 .5x
2half tenn/fla o/u73.5 under .5x
penn st /illi o/u 70 under 1xComment -
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#2712knicks +5 1x
indy +6 1x
suns +5 1x
college hoops
utah +13 1x
tenn ml -170 1x
texas/texas tech o/u 148 under 1xComment -
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#2713what i had earlier forgot too put it up.!Comment -
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#2714I got raped tonight 0 and 4Comment -
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#2715yeah not a good night for me either, 6-7. get it back tomorrowComment -
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#2716Im tailin u tomorrow ayo I'm not feeling confident after thisComment -
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#2717won the nuggets game but wisc up 9 wit 2 mins left and turn it over 3 times to go and lose would have been up 8x now im down 2x on the day lets get em todayLETS GET ITComment -
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#2718bean whats up wit that moveLETS GET ITComment -
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#2719duke -7.5 3x
spurs game under 187.5 3x
kings game under 196 3x
villanova -4 3x come on cuz
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#2720i like the under in the duke game and duke the under in the sac game looks good!nova and bulldogsComment -
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#2721go cuz tonight nova -4Comment -
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#2722got it beanLETS GET ITComment -
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#2723Hoops :
Duke -8
Nova -4
Spurs 1Q -1
Bulls 1Q -1
Okc 1Q -1
-Dont know if its just me, but lately ive noticed that in most of the games the away team happens to win the first quarter.
Hockey :
Habs ML
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#2724Basketball - College Lines
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William & Mary +8½
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Villanova -4 (-115)
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La Salle -6½
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Fordham +10 (-105)
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Massachusetts +11 (-115)
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Wichita State -3
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Georgia +8½
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Northwestern +1½
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Duke -7½
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Duke vs. Florida State Under 141
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UNLV +5½
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UNLV vs. San Diego State Over 133
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#2725cool it's ahrd to get the hang of sonny but it will keep track and open the paypal acc you dont have to pay for it and that peeps can buy yours selcsComment -
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#2727UP THERE WIT YA BEANLETS GET IT
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memphis -5.5 1x
la salle 1h -3.5 .5x
missouri 1h -5.5 .5x
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