Cleveland's response to what Lebron should do...

[hawley]

Miami played a horrible game against Boston in their first game of the seaosn- with wade having his first game back in months- and only lost by 8. The very next game, Boston lost to Cleveland. They were completely winded after that game chasing Wade and Lebron around the entire game.

Miami went on to blow out the Magic a few days later and it wasn't even close. you can keep giving the ball to dwight against a smaller joel anthony and make dwight beat you- you will never win a championship like this because Dwight still doesn't have the offensive game needed to carry a team to a title.

In a 7 game series, Pierce and Allen will not have the energy to chase around Lebron and Wade the entire game. These guys are old. I love both of them and have followed them throughout their whole career from when they were at Kentucky and Uconn but in a 7 game series you can't guard these two.

When Allen guarded Bryant in the finals- his offensive game was fine for the first couple of 2-3 games. But when it got to games 5, 6, 7, you really saw the fatigue in Allen and he struggled offensively because of having to chase bryant around. Now know that Bryant is not as explosive as either James or Wade at this stage in his career and at times settled for a lot of jump shots in that series. If Pierce and Allen are both chasing Wade/James around, who is going to produce points for the Celtics in games 5, 6, 7? KG? Rondo? Jermaine Oneal? Shaq? On top of that, Allen's whole offensive game is running of screens, so he has to chase around Wade the whole time plus run off screens. Trust me that will have a huge impact on your jump shot, you will not get the same elevation at all and your shot will look real flat

1. perfect spot for a let down game like a lot of people called. These guys are professional athletes and i can assure you they would not of been "winded" after one game at the start of the season. i assume presume you meant fatigued not winded.

2. this was the heat's home court opener, once again a lot of people called a big heat victory

[lyon804]

you got me wrong..im not saying you love lebron..i just said that i hate lebron to emphasize that im not backing the heat..

back to the odom and bosh..
im not really a stats guy, i dont like fantasy league, when i watch gsmes i watch every play unfold.. yes you are again right on the intangibles..

but lets be fair here..
yes bosh is Overrated..
but at the end of the day that guy is pretty good..as a pf he has nice shooting, nice feet, speed and can be a leading scorer..
which odom cannot..odom makes the lakers great, but as an individual there is no way he is better than bosh..
most laker fans didnt even like him when he was struggling.. pal odom is hot right now..but as the season unfolds, you know odom isnt really a great shooter..
his main strength is his playmaking and running on the break creating mismatch

Odom's rebounding and defense seems to be there in big games as well and the ability to hit a big shot. Bosh will be a non-factor in the playoffs. Odom has played many solid playoff games getting consistent double doubles off the bench. Not many team have a guy that consistently gets a double double off the bench. Odom is better for a team that wants to win than Bosh is. Yes, I see Bosh's skill set but he is like lebron and is absent the qualities of a champion.

[Goat Milk]

1. perfect spot for a let down game like a lot of people called. These guys are professional athletes and i can assure you they would not of been "winded" after one game at the start of the season. i assume presume you meant fatigued not winded. 2. this was the heat's home court opener, once again a lot of people called a big heat victory

I realize that but the playoffs is not the regular season and you aren't going to have the line movement in the playoffs to help you with your picks (like you did with the RLM in the cavs game) its all about matchups and making adjustments through film study.

Pierce and Allen are not in their primes anymore. They don't have the legs to chase around the two most explosive scorers for 7 games. Boston needs to pick up a guy that can SCORE off the bench because this team struggles to score big time at times, and that will be the case in the playoffs if their two best offensive players don't have any energy. The only pure scorer they have off the bench is Nate Robinson.

[Ricki Roma]

And as for you Willy.. It doesn't matter if the Miami Cavaliers succeed or not in the East they will be bitch slapped by the Lakers. If you are Goatballs think they can beat the Lakers in a series neither of you are near as smart as you think. The Lakers are clearly the better team. What does Miami have better than the Lakers. Miami will not see a rebound in the series and Lebron and Wade ain't good enough to beat the Lakers. Now I realize the Mia Cavs don't have it all worked out, but even when they do what are they really? How much better is the Mia Cavs than the Cleveland version last year?? I know that question is nuts to you all because you buy the hype of the media and the Lebron,Wade and Bosh.. Olympic Combo I sure hope you fools aint counting on Chris Bosh against teams like Orlando,Celtics, or Lakers. Bosh will be a non factor and ain't even as good as Lamar Odom. I am sure you think that is nuts also, but truth is Odom contributes to winning games with his defense and rebounding and timely offensive rebounding and scores inside or out. SO Lebron and Wade by themselves are going to beat the real teams of the NBA??? GTFO with that thinking.

Did you really just say odom> bosh..

Dumbass

[hawley]

I realize that but the playoffs is not the regular season and you aren't going to have the line movement in the playoffs to help you with your picks (like you did with the RLM in the cavs game) its all about matchups and making adjustments through film study.

Pierce and Allen are not in their primes anymore. They don't have the legs to chase around the two most explosive scorers for 7 games. Boston needs to pick up a guy that can SCORE off the bench because this team struggles to score big time at times, and that will be the case in the playoffs if their two best offensive players don't have any energy. The only pure scorer they have off the bench is Nate Robinson.

i didnt play the cavs ATS or SU or look at the line but it was suspicious at -4 or whatever it was, i did think it had the potential to be a letdown spot for the celtics after the hype of that opener

[ayuntalo]

goat this may sound stupid..but i think if boston vs heat ever happens on the playoffs..it will be rondo on wade.. speed for speed grit for grit and maybe double him up hen he tries to post up.. i agree with you on allen.. but i think pierce can match lebron, i think it happened before i forgot the year..

but honestly..i think miami will be better as the season progress and they will represent the east.. the celtics, imagine their play right now and just add shaq and perkins intensity inside and thats about their ceiling..

and orlando..i dont really see them as a serious contender..i just dont feel they can beat the elite teams in a series.. i agree with you goat on dwights offense.. they are hyping it but still its not that good to carry a team.. bynum, and baby gasol's offense might be better

[TheThreeKings]

Odom's rebounding and defense seems to be there in big games as well and the ability to hit a big shot. Bosh will be a non-factor in the playoffs. Odom has played many solid playoff games getting consistent double doubles off the bench. Not many team have a guy that consistently gets a double double off the bench. Odom is better for a team that wants to win than Bosh is. Yes, I see Bosh's skill set but he is like lebron and is absent the qualities of a champion.

Explain to me how you can already determine that Bosh and Lebron are "absent the qualities of a champion"? Seems like a pretty rash and irresponsible thing to be saying considering both are just barely approaching their primes.

Bosh's role on the Heat is not equivalent to Odom's. Mike Miller (when healthy obviously) will be more like the Odom of the Heat. He has the ability to drop 20 points off the bench any given night. I bet he's salivating right now seeing the looks House and Jones have been getting.

Make no mistake about it, Miami's defense is and will be better than Boston's. Underestimating the tandem of Wade and Lebron on the defensive end is a very bad idea. By the playoffs they will be running seamless fastbreaks as well which means every miscue by the opponent will result in an easy 2 points on the other end.

By the way, Miami played HORRIBLY on the offensive end against Boston on opening night and still only lost by 8.

[Ricki Roma]

Odom's rebounding and defense seems to be there in big games as well and the ability to hit a big shot. Bosh will be a non-factor in the playoffs. Odom has played many solid playoff games getting consistent double doubles off the bench. Not many team have a guy that consistently gets a double double off the bench. Odom is better for a team that wants to win than Bosh is. Yes, I see Bosh's skill set but he is like lebron and is absent the qualities of a champion.

Odom is better for a team that wants to win? Really? Maybe as a role player but nothing else. And as for bosh not being good for a title contender, that remains to be seen sinxe hes played with crappy teams his whole career. So that statement is just you hating.

As for odom hes been critized before about playing with no heart, so lets not act like hes the big thing here.

[ayuntalo]

Odom is better for a team that wants to win? Really? Maybe as a role player but nothing else. And as for bosh not being good for a title contender, that remains to be seen sinxe hes played with crappy teams his whole career. So that statement is just you hating.

As for odom hes been critized before about playing with no heart, so lets not act like hes the big thing here.

i agree..except the 1st sentence..
yes odom is better for a winning team..
nba is not baseball where you pick up all the big names, you need players to facilitae the offense and make difference other than scoring..

odom maybe the best 3rd string in the nba today, but he is not a big thing..and so is bosh..bosh is way too over rated, cant even get his team to the playoffs on a lowly eastern conference

[Ricki Roma]

i agree..except the 1st sentence..
yes odom is better for a winning team..
nba is not baseball where you pick up all the big names, you need players to facilitae the offense and make difference other than scoring..

odom maybe the best 3rd string in the nba today, but he is not a big thing..and so is bosh..bosh is way too over rated, cant even get his team to the playoffs on a lowly eastern conference

if bosh never had his face smashed in a few games before the season end toronto would have made the playoffs.

[Preston09]

Can't wait to get to the end of this one!!!! Should be epic.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Miami fans just come in late and leave early, mostly due to the blowouts we have been having, doesnt make a bad fan base, its jus theres so many things to do in miami, unlike other cities.

Nope, they didn't show. Not even for the home opener.

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/25536486

Miami is one of the worst sports cities as far as fan support. I walked up and got tickets to Marlins games when they were title contenders. Did you see how pathetic the Canes stadium was yesterday? You'll see more fans at HS games here in Texas. The Heat with all 3 superstars still can't sell all their seats. It's pathetic. Too many frontrunners and not enough true diehard fans.

Here's a pic of the canes game yesterday right before kickoff.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Lebron took his talents to South Beach but Miami fans are staying home...

http://www.businessinsider.com/tonights-home-opener-for-miami-heat-far-from-sold-out-2010-10

Heat tries to reach out to fans to "Fan up" and become real fans for once...

http://blogs.trb.com/sports/custom/business/blog/2010/10/miami_heat_wants_fans_to_fan_u.html

[TheThreeKings]

Nope, they didn't show. Not even for the home opener.

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/25536486

Miami is one of the worst sports cities as far as fan support. I walked up and got tickets to Marlins games when they were title contenders. Did you see how pathetic the Canes stadium was yesterday? You'll see more fans at HS games here in Texas. The Heat with all 3 superstars still can't sell all their seats. It's pathetic. Too many frontrunners and not enough true diehard fans.

Here's a pic of the canes game yesterday right before kickoff.

It's pathetic. I can't think of another city that wouldn't have an arena packed nightly for a team of this caliber.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I do think a lot of the administration for Miami sports are not real creative as well. I would come up with more things to do at the stadiums. Do stuff so people will come early to the games. Have give aways and promote family. Also, reduce prices as Miami was hit hard with the economy. I think the area suffers from big ego's in a way where the teams feel they're too good to pamper their fans.

[lyon804]

And as for you Willy.. It doesn't matter if the Miami Cavaliers succeed or not in the East they will be bitch slapped by the Lakers. If you are Goatballs think they can beat the Lakers in a series neither of you are near as smart as you think. The Lakers are clearly the better team. What does Miami have better than the Lakers. Miami will not see a rebound in the series and Lebron and Wade ain't good enough to beat the Lakers. Now I realize the Mia Cavs don't have it all worked out, but even when they do what are they really? How much better is the Mia Cavs than the Cleveland version last year?? I know that question is nuts to you all because you buy the hype of the media and the Lebron,Wade and Bosh.. Olympic Combo I sure hope you fools aint counting on Chris Bosh against teams like Orlando,Celtics, or Lakers. Bosh will be a non factor and ain't even as good as Lamar Odom. I am sure you think that is nuts also, but truth is Odom contributes to winning games with his defense and rebounding and timely offensive rebounding and scores inside or out. SO Lebron and Wade by themselves are going to beat the real teams of the NBA??? GTFO with that thinking.

All you Miami Cavalier fans read the last part in red. Chris Bosh made Paul Milsaps look like Oscar Robertson, Wilt Chamberlain and whatever HOFer you want to name. Do you folks really think Miami is going to win with that front line?


Also, for all of you laughed when I said Odom was a better player Yeah, he ain't is flashy but he does the little things that contribute to winning..Like defense and rebounding. Not sure Bosh can do either, especially against the real teams in the league. Anybody that don't know this is the Lakers championship to lose don't know ball.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I agree... I'd take Odom over Bosh in a heartbeat. When Odom is motivated, he might be the best player in the league. Don't believe it? Kobe said it. Basketball isn't life or death to Odom. He had a young baby die of SIDS so I understand. But when he wants to he can take over a game on both ends. What has Bosh done in his career so far? He's soft as Egyptian cotton.

[lyon804]

I agree... I'd take Odom over Bosh in a heartbeat. When Odom is motivated, he might be the best player in the league. Don't believe it? Kobe said it. Basketball isn't life or death to Odom. He had a young baby die of SIDS so I understand. But when he wants to he can take over a game on both ends. What has Bosh done in his career so far? He's soft as Egyptian cotton.

He put up solid numbers for a shitty team playing in anonymity. He also was gifted a spot on the Olympics. He is a wiry 6'10 guy that is a mid range player that don't have what it takes to defend and score in the paint. D Will took balls from him tonite like he was his bitch Lebron looking like Wade's bitch just like I said.. Same as he did in the Olympics when shit got tough. In the end how is this team really all that better than the Cavaliers last year when Lebron didn't have help