John Morrison 2010 NBA

[dwang0725]

whats the play then for lakers ml or ats??

Laker are -3.5, so if you want to play it standard, exactly like JM stipulates, you would buy 3 pts bringing them to -.5. Might as well just play the Lakers ML at -160 and save some juice (if you buy 3 pts, it'll likely be -170). the odds of MIL winning by 1 is very slim.

[krzychu78]

Some people here are talking about playing reverse JM (when official A bet wins – they play B and C against the team that won A).
I was curious how it worked in the past so i’ve checked three seasons.
Assumption:
-we don’t buy any points,
-average odds are 1.91 decimal.

Season 2009/2008: 75-21 +3,6u
Season 2008/2007: 79-18 +17,8u
Season 2007/2006: 63-24 –18,6u

I know that’s only three years but i think playing this system is too risky for me.

[COYLO]

krzychu where did you getthe past seasons results from??

[krzychu78]

krzychu where did you getthe past seasons results from??

I've checked all road series from those three seasons. I was using data available at covers.com

[COYLO]

thanks been looking for a place with good stats

[ghislaine]

alright, let`s win some money guys !! placed all three bets and played moneyline on the Lakers game.... Just heeding the advice
of You forum big wigs
Bet a little more on the NY and LA games. Hoping we all get lucky tonight *fingers crossed*

[lilb999]

I dont play V2 but with odds of -3.5 for the lakers you guys think I should just bump the spread to -.5 and take a chance on this one?

[krzychu78]

I dont play V2 but with odds of -3.5 for the lakers you guys think I should just bump the spread to -.5 and take a chance on this one?

If you don't play V2 at all you sholdn'n play Lakers. But if you're going to, just play ML. Don't buy points.

[teecee]

Lakers are version 2 of JM NBA system
v2 - the difference between those two versions is that in v2 : 1 out of 3 games on the road can be from the same confernce.
Example:
Lakers vs Milwaukee
Lakers vs. Detroit
Lakers vs. Minnesota -> this one is from the same Western Conference

...a system, which, if i remember correctly, he directed all his followers to disregard. anyone else remember that e-mail?

[COYLO]

sorry for bringing this up in your thread dvb, but does anyone get jm's nhl picks?? stanley posted ones earlier in the thread but nothing since

[stevex]

COYLO, ElCapitan has a JM NHL thread going on in the Hockey forum so check that out.

[krzychu78]

Opening for Phoenix for tomorrow is +9.

[COYLO]

COYLO, ElCapitan has a JM NHL thread going on in the Hockey forum so check that out.

thanks stevex

[dukipl]

which of this bet guys think has the best chanse to win?

In my opinion the Los Angeles Lakers has the best chance to win. They have lost 2 in a row so its time to win now! So lets go LAKERS !!!

[lawalahmed]

Some people here are talking about playing reverse JM (when official A bet wins – they play B and C against the team that won A).
I was curious how it worked in the past so i’ve checked three seasons.
Assumption:
-we don’t buy any points,
-average odds are 1.91 decimal.

Season 2009/2008: 75-21 +3,6u
Season 2008/2007: 79-18 +17,8u
Season 2007/2006: 63-24 –18,6u

I know that’s only three years but i think playing this system is too risky for me.

I dont know how you check your own but i assume you suppose to have more detail compare to Wilba result below:

Well I can actually provide this because I spent 12 hours last week backtesting it. The results for reverse JM NBA V1 sys over the past TWO seasons (2008/2009 and 2009/2010) are as follows:

when buying 3 points:

A bet 90 wins (63.38 % win rate)
B bet 35 wins (67.31 % win rate)
C bet 12 wins (70.59 % win rate)
series losses = 5

bottom line - when playing to win 100 / series with 3 game chase total profit = $1,950

when not buying any points:

A bet 73 wins (51.41 % win rate)
B bet 39 wins (56.52 % win rate)
C bet 18 wins (60 % win rate)
series losses = 12

bottom line - when playing to win 100 / series with 3 game chase total profit = $3,880

as you can see, over the last two years, both reverse systems were profitable. However not buying the 3 points while playing the reverse system was the most profitable method. Even more profitable was playing buying no points, but if any bet in the series WOULD have covered if buying 3 points, then count the series as a loss (at the A or B level) and move on to the next series.

[Kev the Brit]

Laker are -3.5, so if you want to play it standard, exactly like JM stipulates, you would buy 3 pts bringing them to -.5.

Actually, JFM stipulates that if a team is -3 or more that you go on the ML.

[JW Cash]

Good Luck tonight gentlemen on the 3 games............


After last night's cash call......

Can we expect 3 more tonight ????


Why Not........


Money for Nothing......................Fantastic !!!


Life is Good.....

[qwerty123]

Lets go Lakers, Knicks, Bulls!!!!

[mitchp]

I dont know how you check your own but i assume you suppose to have more detail compare to Wilba result below:

Well I can actually provide this because I spent 12 hours last week backtesting it. The results for reverse JM NBA V1 sys over the past TWO seasons (2008/2009 and 2009/2010) are as follows:

when buying 3 points:

A bet 90 wins (63.38 % win rate)
B bet 35 wins (67.31 % win rate)
C bet 12 wins (70.59 % win rate)
series losses = 5

bottom line - when playing to win 100 / series with 3 game chase total profit = $1,950

when not buying any points:

A bet 73 wins (51.41 % win rate)
B bet 39 wins (56.52 % win rate)
C bet 18 wins (60 % win rate)
series losses = 12

bottom line - when playing to win 100 / series with 3 game chase total profit = $3,880

as you can see, over the last two years, both reverse systems were profitable. However not buying the 3 points while playing the reverse system was the most profitable method. Even more profitable was playing buying no points, but if any bet in the series WOULD have covered if buying 3 points, then count the series as a loss (at the A or B level) and move on to the next series.

Just out of interest, are you now playing the reverse, or was this just a exercise of interest. By the way thanks for share this information

[mitchp]

I was wondering if someone can help me, where within Covers.com can you get past performance information. I'd like to do sme data-mining but can't seem to find where you go to get it. Do you need to register to get access?

Thanks
Mitch

[dlunc3]

Just to throw in my two cents.... I do not play the A bet at all (either side)... regardless of who wins the A bet, I play the opposite for a 2 game chase (using labby lines). So I either jump on JM for the bet b and c, or i jump on the anti JM for the bet b and c... seems to be most profitable. Without using labby lines, and doubling your bet on the bet C if the bet B loses, it only costs you approx 3.5 units for a series loss--- much less stress and you never have a good portion of your roll risked as with the normal JM system. Good luck whoever plays the games tonight!

[dlunc3]

I dont know how you check your own but i assume you suppose to have more detail compare to Wilba result below:

Well I can actually provide this because I spent 12 hours last week backtesting it. The results for reverse JM NBA V1 sys over the past TWO seasons (2008/2009 and 2009/2010) are as follows:

when buying 3 points:

A bet 90 wins (63.38 % win rate)
B bet 35 wins (67.31 % win rate)
C bet 12 wins (70.59 % win rate)
series losses = 5

bottom line - when playing to win 100 / series with 3 game chase total profit = $1,950

when not buying any points:

A bet 73 wins (51.41 % win rate)
B bet 39 wins (56.52 % win rate)
C bet 18 wins (60 % win rate)
series losses = 12

bottom line - when playing to win 100 / series with 3 game chase total profit = $3,880

as you can see, over the last two years, both reverse systems were profitable. However not buying the 3 points while playing the reverse system was the most profitable method. Even more profitable was playing buying no points, but if any bet in the series WOULD have covered if buying 3 points, then count the series as a loss (at the A or B level) and move on to the next series.

Thanks for the info... do you have the past results for V2 as well?

[lawalahmed]

Just out of interest, are you now playing the reverse, or was this just a exercise of interest. By the way thanks for share this information

I follow JM series after A bet lost (Joining from B) or i follow Reverse After JM won A bet of the series (Starting From B). Hope i clear myself

[venture]

If the lakers loss tonight be prepared for some high ML bets

[jordanfreak]

BEST LUCK TO ALL TONIGHT BETTING ON LAKERS, BULLS AND KNICKS

[lilb999]

YAY for lakers!

[JW Cash]

....winna winna.......Italian Garlic Pot Roast dinna..........


CONGRATS all Laker backers.......


But to be honest.....the Laker game was a gimme.....with them coming in on a 2 game losing streak

[lilb999]

I dont mind those gimmie games...They give us free money right?!

[J.M. Disciple]

Laker games are never a gimme. Yes, they usually dont lose 3 in a row, but lakers are known to play some really close games. I was very confident in this V2 bet though cause Milwaukee has not beat the lakers in a while.

I am brand new to this forum, but have been reading this thread through the week. Finally decide to chime in some. Venture made a very good point. If lakers were to lose this game, the chase system following the money line would be very expensive I.e. you would need a large bankroll.

I am a JM follower, but never really had good bankroll management in the past, so i ended up losing money with him in the past. However, this is my fault and not his. There is never a guaranteed bet with this system, so i dont suggest you invest more then 5% of your bankroll.

Earlier in the thread someone said they followed all of JM system bets. I believe it was BVB and they make a living off it. Can someone inform me on how big of a bankroll I would need to do this? How many units are you making a year / how big is your unit size. If you dont mind. (my guess is you need $200 per unit minimum to make a living off it.)

NBA system will usually make around 50 units per season (2% / unit of starting bankroll of the season)
MLB system will make 40 units???
NHL??? I never heard anything about his NFL system but ill research it a little bit and any info you guys can give me on that ill appreciate it.

Lets go NY and Bulls ! final 2 bets are looking good so far.

lets make some more money!

[lilb999]

Is Ronnie Brewer trying to blow the Bulls game for us?? He prolly bet on the Rockets

[stevex]

J.M. you hit the nail right on the head. Money management is the key to any system that you use. This system does work, but there will be a few times this year (NBA) that there will be [C] bets and you have to make sure that you NEVER risk your entire bankroll on that infamous C bet. Bet smart and you will profit.

[J.M. Disciple]

I believe the system works out where if you bet 8% to win 4% you will end up risking your whole bankroll on a series. I really like the 2% rule, so you have enough to lose 1 series and still make money on the season.

I was viewing El captains hockey thread with JM's hockey picks and it appears to have finially should a profit, if you were betting ML and not the PL. I am not going to follow the hockey one cause it appears to be a lot of bets so far and very little profit. correct me if im wrong. I will stick to his NBA and MLB again when it starts.

How does his NFL one work? I believe it has something to do with following the saints around. ALso i agree with DVB that you should stay away from his buffet picks. His nfl picks are basically based off consensus picks. Might as well use consensus picks on covers.com which hit about 50%, so there slightly -ev to follow.

Stick with the NBA, MLB, and possibly (NFL?) systems. I assure everyone def. a gold mine with proper money management. I learned the hard way starting off, but im getting back on track this year.

[edh1011]

ny looking good right now. let's hope there is no OT

[jordanfreak]

Its a wrap lakers, bulls and knicks pulled it off very nice

[jordanfreak]

Hey whats the next bet