John Morrison 2010 NBA

[GGPLAYER]

I don't understand- you have Dallas as a B but they beat Washington and Dallas was the Favorite so you would have bet the Money Lin and won that bet.

The "ML Rule" is BS. When the spread is over -4 it's not worth it.

[dlunc3]

anyone catch the point spread at the right time and get a win on the bobcats? I know i didnt..

[dratk00l]

anyone catch the point spread at the right time and get a win on the bobcats? I know i didnt..

I pushed on both my books,

-Alex

[juice050]

The knicks are back!!!!! This is a real knick fan also!!

[capndavey]

anyone catch the point spread at the right time and get a win on the bobcats? I know i didnt..

I pushed as well on this one.

[SkivChef]

great job knickerbockers!

[DANO74]

Good game by the Knicks

[DANO74]

Kevin Love was a beast!

[honeyeater]

I believe the season starts at beginning of reg. Season. I don't think MLB has a whole lot of series in spring training, mostly different team every day. Players will be different on regular rosters anyway.

Another quick question- I have only used V1 for MLB and have the V2 and V3 (they are just different ways to add bets to an existing series) but did not use them last year. Do you know how it did when you increased the bet for a home team and bet opposite if the team won on bet A?-
I know I can go into covers and look (and I will), just thought someone can give me an idea.
The MLB system is the best. I use a different filter then JM ( a bit more strict) but I think he has even had only one loss last year since I have used it and back checked (5years) I didn't lose last year with my RPI

[J.M. Disciple]

@ Wallco, we discussed long time ago in this form we were going to ignore the ML filter cause it was a cover up for his system. In the long run their is too much juice by playing money line. That is why Dallas was listed as a B bet. I will continue to post plays that are not covered by the point spread after buying 3pts. That is how we decided it was going to be on this forum.

I lost on bobcats so onto the B bet.

@honeyeater, You are looking at the schedule to see if the team is going to suck, but did you know there are more underdogs that cover or "crappy teams" that cover in this system, then any other? Might want to reconsider some of your own filters in the way you play this system.

JM NBA: went 3-2 today
picking up two B bets one A bet, which means great news for B and C bettors cause now you have two more B bets coming up with Char and GSW.

[J.M. Disciple]

I am not seeing any bets for tomorrow for NBA!!!!!!! or for Hockey!

Gotta rely on SBP tomorrow for some action!

[GoGooners]

anyone catch the point spread at the right time and get a win on the bobcats? I know i didnt..

i didnt too... loving these .5 pts losses now. at least dallas covered fine in 2nd game. go bobcats and gsw in B bets!

[Kev the Brit]

JMD:

@ Wallco, we discussed long time ago in this form we were going to ignore the ML filter cause it was a cover up for his system. In the long run their is too much juice by playing money line. That is why Dallas was listed as a B bet. I will continue to post plays that are not covered by the point spread after buying 3pts. That is how we decided it was going to be on this forum.

This thread is not a private club. People from all over the world, many who do speak English naturally, visit this thread and I understand why they get confused when you post stuff that does not conform with the published systems. "we", as you indicate, cannot decide to do something that is different to the title of the thread because most of "we" are all transient. Where are those names, other than yourself, such as Wilba, who strongly advocated the new policy? Only the thread title is permanent and because it is very popular it is always at the top of the forum list. It must do "what it says on the can". What "we" (which doesn't include me, even though I was a part of the discussion that was railroaded by others) decided many weeks ago is not headlined any more. Visitors will never know about the decision "we" made back then, which is why the title should reflect the content.

Individually, we can do as we wish with our money. I fully agree that the JM filter is trash and I personally don't use it.

I only ask that folk, like yourselves who post system plays here, should indicate when they are ignoring the official rules. Unless you do so, you and your supporters will have to politely answer the many confused JM followers who will continue to come here every day and get you vexed because they (understandably) have not read "our" policy statement way back on post ### whatever. The consequence of course is that the thread fills up with off-topic posts, just like this.

Keep up the good work

Best regards
Kev

[dratk00l]

I am not seeing any bets for tomorrow for NBA!!!!!!! or for Hockey!

Gotta rely on SBP tomorrow for some action!

JM V3, Chicago @ Washington [B]???

Unless I made a mistake updating my data.

-Alex

[Kev the Brit]

Hi Alex,

Chicago's A bet against Mil on Sat 2/26 was an easy winner. Series over.

Kev

[dratk00l]

Hi Alex,

Chicago's A bet against Mil on Sat 2/26 was an easy winner. Series over.

Kev

Yep, you're right, Kev! Disregard, I screwed up.

Thanks,

-Alex

[bauerranch]

Glad Baseball is around the corner and looking forward to it- we need spring

[Wallco99]

@ Wallco, we discussed long time ago in this form we were going to ignore the ML filter cause it was a cover up for his system. In the long run their is too much juice by playing money line. That is why Dallas was listed as a B bet. I will continue to post plays that are not covered by the point spread after buying 3pts. That is how we decided it was going to be on this forum.

I lost on bobcats so onto the B bet.

@honeyeater, You are looking at the schedule to see if the team is going to suck, but did you know there are more underdogs that cover or "crappy teams" that cover in this system, then any other? Might want to reconsider some of your own filters in the way you play this system.

JM NBA: went 3-2 today
picking up two B bets one A bet, which means great news for B and C bettors cause now you have two more B bets coming up with Char and GSW.

OK, I missed those posts. But this wasn't one of his BS filters, this was a betting strategy for the games. Most of these systems are the same way, never give up points. But if that is what you all decided, then OK with me. I am basically just stating, that newcomers to the forum are going to think that is how the actual system is. Just thinking a note next to those games would only be fair to them.

[Wallco99]

Chase 110
2010-11 System to date: 64-0
System Rules can be found in post #5000
System Backtest can be found in post #5000


There are no system plays for (2/28/11)

[GGPLAYER]

OK, I missed those posts. But this wasn't one of his BS filters, this was a betting strategy for the games. Most of these systems are the same way, never give up points. But if that is what you all decided, then OK with me. I am basically just stating, that newcomers to the forum are going to think that is how the actual system is. Just thinking a note next to those games would only be fair to them.

I'm with you. He did not even have that lame filter until last year. Any back testing done has proven that you don't need it over the long run. I played Dallas and won big! Your playing with fire if you lay down that amount of cash on big ML's. It's jut not wise.

[atari5200]

i think that krzychu78 ...
is awesome.

he never says a word, he shows up with updated records and upcoming plays. This guy is the coolest.

[GGPLAYER]

anyone catch the point spread at the right time and get a win on the bobcats? I know i didnt..

I don't see how you could get a win on this one. It is either a push or a loss. Either way we're playing the next game.

[RAK]

Well said. My thoughts exactly. Cheers

i think that krzychu78 ...
is awesome.

he never says a word, he shows up with updated records and upcoming plays. This guy is the coolest.

[dratk00l]

I don't see how you could get a win on this one. It is either a push or a loss. Either way we're playing the next game.

Covers.com has this as push with no books going higher than +11, so no way to win that I can see - unless you bought an extra .5 point.

-Alex

[Wallco99]

I'm with you. He did not even have that lame filter until last year. Any back testing done has proven that you don't need it over the long run. I played Dallas and won big! Your playing with fire if you lay down that amount of cash on big ML's. It's jut not wise.

Where can that testing that you mentioned be found. I am yet to see that. It would be really surprising if that were true, because in Chase 110, by not playing the M/L on favorites, there were quite a few more losses. I don't see how JM results could be much different. It's not like the other filters that say "don't bet a certain game for a certain reason". It is a "filter" that says "still bet the game, but bet it a different way". Since JM's only concern is how many wins he has, and tries to minimize his losses with filters, I don't think he would have added this in unless there are more wins with the M/L, and some losses stemming from buying three points. Since we are not skipping these games, obviously this must be the way to bet them to keep his loss total lower. Loss total lower + betting the same amount of games = more profit. Unless a series loses both M/L and Buying 3, then I can see your point.

[dukipl]

whats cooking

[hagball52]

Another quick question- I have only used V1 for MLB and have the V2 and V3 (they are just different ways to add bets to an existing series) but did not use them last year. Do you know how it did when you increased the bet for a home team and bet opposite if the team won on bet A?-
I know I can go into covers and look (and I will), just thought someone can give me an idea.
The MLB system is the best. I use a different filter then JM ( a bit more strict) but I think he has even had only one loss last year since I have used it and back checked (5years) I didn't lose last year with my RPI

JM claims he went 42-1 last year in MLB which is an outright lie. He had 4 [C] bet losses last season. SF Giants, HOU Astros and LA angels 2 times when on the last series the Angels lost was to the BAL Orioles and he actually started on the 2nd game with his [A] bet and finished with a different team (Seattle) and calling it a win. 4 [C] bet losses basically rendered the whole season a loss.
I bought his V2 MLB but it was just a bullshit line about the team losing the A and /or B bets by more than 3 runs and also being the home team then you would increase your bet size because they would be more apt to win the next bet. I wasn't even aware of a V3 addition to MLB. Please share if you have it.

[krzychu78]

Where can that testing that you mentioned be found. I am yet to see that. It would be really surprising if that were true, because in Chase 110, by not playing the M/L on favorites, there were quite a few more losses. I don't see how JM results could be much different. It's not like the other filters that say "don't bet a certain game for a certain reason". It is a "filter" that says "still bet the game, but bet it a different way". Since JM's only concern is how many wins he has, and tries to minimize his losses with filters, I don't think he would have added this in unless there are more wins with the M/L, and some losses stemming from buying three points. Since we are not skipping these games, obviously this must be the way to bet them to keep his loss total lower. Loss total lower + betting the same amount of games = more profit. Unless a series loses both M/L and Buying 3, then I can see your point.

Wallco, you may want to see my post #2387 and Wilba's answer #2392

[krzychu78]

atari5200, thank you very much for your kind words
I think i would say more if only my english was better

[Wallco99]

Wallco, you may want to see my post #2387 and Wilba's answer #2392

Thank you, I will review.

[krzychu78]

JM's NBA system:
02/27/2011 Charlotte @ Orlando - V2, A bet - PUSH
02/27/2011 Golden State @ Minnesota - V2, A bet - LOSS
02/27/2011 Houston @ New Orleans - V3, A bet - WIN
02/27/2011 New York @ Miami - V3, B bet - WIN
02/27/2011 Dallas @ Toronto - V1, B bet - WIN

V1record so far (finished series): 43-3
(A): 22-24
(B): 17-7
(C): 4-3
Lost series:
PHO 11/17-20
DET 12/07-10
UTA 01/17-21

V2 record so far (finished series): 19-1
(A): 13-7
(B): 3-4
(C): 3-1
Lost series:
MIN 10/30-11/03

V3 record so far (finished series): 46-2
(A): 25-22-1 (W-L-P)
(B): 18-4-1 (W-L-P)
(C): 3-1-1 (W-L-P)
Lost series:
CLE 12/04-07
TOR 01/29-02/02 (B bet and C bet were pushes according to covers.com)

Next JM's plays:
03/01/2011 Golden State @ Indiana - V2, B bet
03/01/2011 Golden State @ Indiana - V1, A bet
03/01/2011 New Orleans @ Toronto - V2, A bet
03/02/2011 Charlotte @ Denver - V2, B bet
03/02/2011 Charlotte @ Denver - V1, A bet
03/02/2011 Minnesota @ Detroit - V1, A bet
03/02/2011 Indiana @ Oklahoma - V1, A bet
03/03/2011 Denver @ Utah - V3, A bet

[lawalahmed]

Wallco, you may want to see my post #2387 and Wilba's answer #2392

You speak my mind.....

[lawalahmed]

Where is Wilba ? ( The real Path finder of this thread.....)

WILBA, I miss ur genuine stats.....

[imotiv8]

if GS loses tomm, they start a V1 on an (b) bet the next game, while it will also be a (c)V2 bet is that right?

[Wallco99]