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  • poochiecollins
    SBR MVP
    • 01-27-09
    • 1782

    #1
    Championships are a TEAM accomplishment, not individual
    To argue otherwise is to say that Adam Morrison is better than LeBron James. Use your heads and don't take the lazy way out in analyzing player skill.
  • kobefanatic
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-19-10
    • 9013

    #2
    what are you smoking? adam morrison didn't even leave the bench for 1 second, we're talking about the star players here who has a major role in their team's success
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    • kobefanatic
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-19-10
      • 9013

      #3
      if lebron didn't win it this year along with wade and bosh what would your excuse be?
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      • jsmithj88
        SBR MVP
        • 12-27-08
        • 3591

        #4
        Originally posted by kobefanatic
        if lebron didn't win it this year along with wade and bosh what would your excuse be?
        i dont think they will win it this year.
        their isnt enuff quality out there to fill out the roster
        whos gonna deal with guys like howard, rondo, ray allen ??
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        • kobefanatic
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 01-19-10
          • 9013

          #5
          Originally posted by jsmithj88
          i dont think they will win it this year.
          their isnt enuff quality out there to fill out the roster
          whos gonna deal with guys like howard, rondo, ray allen ??
          no one but most people are already talking about them being the champions, i think boston will beat them in the eastern conference finals, it's easier to deal with orlando than boston, boston is 8 deep right now, rondo, ray allen, pierce,kg, perk, jo, big baby and sheed ( assuming he comes back)
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          • aceking
            SBR MVP
            • 09-07-05
            • 4782

            #6
            kobe can't win it alone /
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            • Bradyd
              SBR MVP
              • 12-19-08
              • 1067

              #7
              You are right. Kobe has lot's of help. All champions do. But I think that's the point, The Big 3 will need some help. However with Lebron, Wade, and Bosh, they won't need much. The potential of this team is .... But I won't put them in the Championship yet. Actually I won't put any team in there yet because 3-peating is VERY VERY tough. AGE is still a factor for Boston and Miami needs to find SYNERGY with their big 3 along with the rest of their TEAM..
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              • eberetta1
                SBR MVP
                • 03-27-09
                • 1159

                #8
                It will be an interesting season, I'm sure. This is a team sport, not a 3 player sport. Gotta make it healthy through how many games before the championship is even held.
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                • tomcast
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 06-19-06
                  • 754

                  #9
                  I have no doubt the Heat will win multiple championships with their big 3 plus spare parts.
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                  • poochiecollins
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-27-09
                    • 1782

                    #10
                    Originally posted by kobefanatic
                    what are you smoking? adam morrison didn't even leave the bench for 1 second, we're talking about the star players here who has a major role in their team's success
                    Wtf? Don't bullshit your way around the topic. Either rings count as a measure of skill or they don't. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
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                    • poochiecollins
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-27-09
                      • 1782

                      #11
                      Originally posted by kobefanatic
                      if lebron didn't win it this year along with wade and bosh what would your excuse be?
                      Not too surprised, considering odds are they won't?
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                      • beanbag
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-21-10
                        • 2364

                        #12
                        thats what the book says.. but I think its also an individual accomplishment also!
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                        • plzkthx
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 11-25-09
                          • 487

                          #13
                          just watch...lebron will lead the heats to a championship.
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                          • Goat Milk
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 03-24-10
                            • 25850

                            #14
                            silence. Lebron doesn't lead anyone. Lebron is led. He doesn't lead.
                            Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                            • Goat Milk
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 03-24-10
                              • 25850

                              #15
                              Originally posted by poochiecollins
                              To argue otherwise is to say that Adam Morrison is better than LeBron James. Use your heads and don't take the lazy way out in analyzing player skill.
                              What is your point? These guys aren't 23 year old guys coming together that have been in the league for 2 years and don't know what it takes to win. This isn't fukkin Rudy Gay and OJ Mayo coming together.
                              Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                              • kobefanatic
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-19-10
                                • 9013

                                #16
                                Originally posted by poochiecollins
                                Wtf? Don't bullshit your way around the topic. Either rings count as a measure of skill or they don't. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
                                what? how can you compare adam morrison to lebron?
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                                • kobefanatic
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-19-10
                                  • 9013

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by poochiecollins
                                  Not too surprised, considering odds are they won't?
                                  , vegas thinks they will
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                                  • tealish
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-02-10
                                    • 3386

                                    #18
                                    Rings aren't everything in comparing players, but they're definitely something.
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                                    • lakerboy
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 04-02-09
                                      • 94381

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by poochiecollins
                                      Not too surprised, considering odds are they won't?

                                      Heat are +184 at pinny and +185 at the greek. The lakers are second faves at +305 and orlando is a distant 3rd at +1215.
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                                      • PROfitableEnergy
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 05-31-10
                                        • 538

                                        #20
                                        Heat won't win the East next year.
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                                        • Goat Milk
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 03-24-10
                                          • 25850

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by PROfitableEnergy
                                          Heat won't win the East next year.
                                          There you have it guys. He has spoken I to your feet Profit

                                          Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                          • poochiecollins
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-27-09
                                            • 1782

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by lakerboy
                                            Heat are +184 at pinny and +185 at the greek. The lakers are second faves at +305 and orlando is a distant 3rd at +1215.
                                            Yes. +100> = less than likely to win championship.
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                                            • poochiecollins
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-27-09
                                              • 1782

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by PROfitableEnergy
                                              Heat won't win the East next year.
                                              Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                              There you have it guys. He has spoken I to your feet Profit
                                              I giggled.
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                                              • poochiecollins
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-27-09
                                                • 1782

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by kobefanatic
                                                what? how can you compare adam morrison to lebron?
                                                Anyone who says rings are a major measure of skill is, including you.
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                                                • poochiecollins
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-27-09
                                                  • 1782

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by tealish
                                                  Rings aren't everything in comparing players, but they're definitely something.
                                                  They're good for people too lazy/stupid to use more objective measures. Otherwise, they can hint that a player's good in the spotlight or under pressure BEFORE you break down numbers.

                                                  If you had to go with just one measure of skill, look at what happens to a team, or what doesn't happen, when that player's not on the court. That's not a perfect measure for several reasons, but it's way better than using championship count.
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                                                  • kobefanatic
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 01-19-10
                                                    • 9013

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by poochiecollins
                                                    Anyone who says rings are a major measure of skill is, including you.
                                                    it can be used to measure the star players of each team not the bench players
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                                                    • kobefanatic
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 01-19-10
                                                      • 9013

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by poochiecollins
                                                      Yes. +100> = less than likely to win championship.
                                                      they have the lowest odds in the sportsbooks so that means vegas is thinking they're the favorites this year, just don't give people excuses when they lose this year it will be pretty funny 2 of the top 3 best players in the same team and one of the top 15 players in the league
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                                                      • THEGREAT30
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 10-04-08
                                                        • 8970

                                                        #28
                                                        season is over
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                                                        • nbarlotta3
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 04-11-10
                                                          • 451

                                                          #29
                                                          I still think the Lakers should be the favorite to win it all.
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                                                          • lakerboy
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 04-02-09
                                                            • 94381

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by poochiecollins
                                                            Yes. +100> = less than likely to win championship.

                                                            Alright got it now. So if i would make a wager on a future bet who would you recommend since every team is above +100?
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                                                            • Goat Milk
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 03-24-10
                                                              • 25850

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by lakerboy

                                                              Alright got it now. So if i would make a wager on a future bet who would you recommend since every team is above +100?
                                                              Take the Rockets and thank me later when they're in the Western Conference Finals.
                                                              Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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