Vince Carter, Orlando Majic

[shoebox]

[SimonBarSinister]

vinceanity smanity- celtics hard core group of vets are primed to go all the way. Load up on them whilst you can

[shoebox]

vinceanity smanity- celtics hard core group of vets are primed to go all the way. Load up on them whilst you can

I love guys like you, keeps Vegas in business

[Goat Milk]

I love guys like you, keeps Vegas in business

Really? How do you think Vegas is getting their money back? By people betting Overs and Orlando

[shoebox]

Really? How do you think Vegas is getting their money back? By people betting Overs and Orlando

overs

[Foals]

I don't know... I've said this before the season started and I'm saying it again, the Magic were much better with Turk than with Carter

[I.L.S]

I don't know... I've said this before the season started and I'm saying it again, the Magic were much better with Turk than with Carter

they're graet now also!

[lyon804]

I would love to be your bookie if your drinking the Boston kool-aid, just send me your money now

Shoe, I am not sure I have ever seen you more confident in a team winning than you are about Orlando just embarrasing the Celtics. I think the Celts will make a series of it bro.

[shoebox]

Shoe, I am not sure I have ever seen you more confident in a team winning than you are about Orlando just embarrasing the Celtics. I think the Celts will make a series of it bro.

Magic and Lakers cruise to the finals


Magic/Lakers goes to game 7 and the winner is a coin flip

thats the story thats about to be played, get ready for the celtics to get pumped and embarrassed and I should of listened comments will be coming

[HoulihansTX]

Magic and Lakers cruise to the finals Magic/Lakers goes to game 7 and the winner is a coin flip thats the story thats about to be played, get ready for the celtics to get pumped and embarrassed and I should of listened comments will be coming

My Magic future will be

[lyon804]

im absolutely disagree with u , BOBCATS maybe not the best team in the NBA but they had a nice season especially at home , and defensively they r good ,BOBCATS with 31-10 at home and ATL with 34-7 home (im not say'n that they very strong teams) , MAGIC them both with no Special difficulties. that shows strongness!!

Nothing wrong with diasagreeing with me. Keep in mind those records you are professing were made in the regular season. Still impressive but the playoffs are a totally different animal and when those "good" home teams returned on there home court they were both down 0-2.. Both teams especially Atlanta hardy gave an effort. Bobcats could have won at home against Majic had they had any brains or skill but they were absent of both.

All in all the Majic have not beat anybody yet. All I am saying is the Celts will not lay down for the Majic like the first 2 opponents and sometimes when teams have not been tested until the finals it's hard to overcome getting hit in the mouth this late in the game...it produces a blow that is hard to recover from. At some point the Majic will get hit in the mouth against the Celts and how will they respond? So far they haven't had to answer the call. Will see.

[jimmyboy1]

i like the magics bench

[lyon804]

Magic and Lakers cruise to the finals


Magic/Lakers goes to game 7 and the winner is a coin flip

thats the story thats about to be played, get ready for the celtics to get pumped and embarrassed and I should of listened comments will be coming

I have no stake or dog in the race at this point. I agree with the Majic being the better team. I think most will, but what makes the Majic that much of a clear cut favorite? I don't get it. Just tell me so I will know how much to bet on the Majic. I mean last I checked the Celtics is not the Bobcats or the Hawks. The majic will not be standing at the 3 point line catching the ball and looking at the laces and then looking at the rim to go swish. They will be pressured and contested. Not doubting you bro I respect your work.. just curious in what you see or expect.

[Goat Milk]

Shoe's judgement clouded by his Magic series bet. Boston's not a good matchup for Orlando. Both teams will win games on the road too.

[shoebox]

I have no stake or dog in the race at this point. I agree with the Majic being the better team. I think most will, but what makes the Majic that much of a clear cut favorite? I don't get it. Just tell me so I will know how much to bet on the Majic. I mean last I checked the Celtics is not the Bobcats or the Hawks. The majic will not be standing at the 3 point line catching the ball and looking at the laces and then looking at the rim to go swish. They will be pressured and contested. Not doubting you bro I respect your work.. just curious in what you see or expect.

Foul trouble minute mixing to the max to put a body on Howard am I the only one not seeing this. You cant get into a groove if your big men are in foul trouble it wears you down, softens the middle. Howard finally got some sense knocked into him about being smarter about the fouls he was commiting. Thats pretty much gonna be the achilles heal for the green machine its game over see you at the counter collecting c-notes is not a problem!

[shoebox]

Shoe's judgement clouded by his Magic series bet. Boston's not a good matchup for Orlando. Both teams will win games on the road too.

I thought long and hard about that its not like I was laying 3 units I had a gameplan for who they were gonna face. I look at the big picture and planned a hedge but I wont even do that now cause I dont have too

[lyon804]

Foul trouble minute mixing to the max to put a body on Howard am I the only one not seeing this. You cant get into a groove if your big men are in foul trouble it wears you down, softens the middle. Howard finally got some sense knocked into him about being smarter about the fouls he was commiting. Thats pretty much gonna be the achilles heal for the green machine its game over see you at the counter collecting c-notes is not a problem!

fair enough. are you going to be betting the spread any or you satisfied to let your future just play out. Bottomline, I said the game 1 I was taking the Majic. I haven't acted yet. Majic -6 is that good?

[shoebox]

Lyon I know you read into the lines, wouldnt the series line be lower if vegas thought the C's had a chance?

[lyon804]

Lyon I know you read into the lines, wouldnt the series line be lower if vegas thought the C's had a chance?

Well sure I do.. Personally, I think they made an accurate line. Besides that Cleveland was -430 over Celts There is no value taking the Celts at the opening series line. If I was going to do a series bet I would wait to after game 1. The Majic most likely take it and then you get more value. I agree that majic win the series I just don't see it as a slam dunk. The majic are very reliant on the 3. If they go cold from the outside and Howard gets into foul trouble then it become a definite toss up. Howard is not an offensive jugernaut. If they body him and pressure him off the block he will become useless. Howard won't be hitting any jumpers. Catch and dunk player.


I was hoping for a competetive series here but from your opinion it won't be

[shoebox]

Well sure I do.. Personally, I think they made an accurate line. Besides that Cleveland was -430 over Celts There is no value taking the Celts at the opening series line. If I was going to do a series bet I would wait to after game 1. The Majic most likely take it and then you get more value. I agree that majic win the series I just don't see it as a slam dunk. The majic are very reliant on the 3. If they go cold from the outside and Howard gets into foul trouble then it become a definite toss up. Howard is not an offensive jugernaut. If they body him and pressure him off the block he will become useless. Howard won't be hitting any jumpers. Catch and dunk player.


I was hoping for a competetive series here but from your opinion it won't be

that cavs line was spot on, you cant cap a game when the best guy on the court gives up and shows no heart. Look how easily they came back from 10 down in the 1st game at half-time. Once the vets saw the wounded wilderbeast they went out for blood and went for the kill

[lyon804]

that cavs line was spot on, you cant cap a game when the best guy on the court gives up and shows no heart. Look how easily they came back from 10 down in the 1st game at half-time. Once the vets saw the wounded wilderbeast they went out for blood and went for the kill

true and the game 3 blowout on the road.. strangest circumstances I have ever seen in that series.


We can discuss queen james and his elbow/effort all we want but in the end the Celtics played well and deserved to win. Even with the queen playing 100% there is still a good chance they would still lose the series. Some will disagree with me and perhaps you may, but since when did Cleveland do anything but lose in the playoffs? The celts were ripe for the picking. Cleveland has some glaring holes from coaching all the way down the line.

[lakerboy]

Lyon I know you read into the lines, wouldnt the series line be lower if vegas thought the C's had a chance?

Shoe the series price reflects the extra home game.
Magic are -275 at pinny for the series and are -290 ml in game 1.

[Goat Milk]

You think it makes a difference if Sheed uses his entire 6 fouls every game? He's worthless anyway. Perkins is the best defensive center in the league after Dwight.

[Aurelius]

magic dont rely on the 3, van gundy is one of the best (if not the best) tacticians of the corner 3, the second most efficient shot on the court behind the layup... afterall it is over a foot and half closer to the basket than a 3 from the top of the arc.

[Goat Milk]

Really? How do you think Vegas is getting their money back? By people betting Overs and Orlando

indeed.

[lyon804]

I know many here think this series will be a slam dunk for the Majic, but do not count out the Celtics. They are playing at a different level now and Orlando has not been challenged yet this playoff season. The Celts will fight and compete every possesion. The Celtics also have the experience and the players to give Orlando all they want. Also keep in mind Orlando lives by the 3 pointer. If they are not dropping at a good rate they will struggle.


Also my biggest X-factor is Vince Carter. I think the Celtics will give him fits. I can't wait until Vince beats somebody off the dribble and makes a strong move to the rim. Vince will wind up in the front row and rendered usueless afterwards. Vince is a pussy. He is a terrific athlete and plays well without contact. I think most know this and Boston will make him uneasy. With Vince out of the equation this will become more of a even series. I see this series being a fight. The Majic should win, but I will not count out the Celtics. They are playing well, they have the leadership, experience, and general know how. We can discuss matchups all day but I think it will be a waste of time in this particular series. This series will be played differently. If Boston is not physical they won't stand a chance. If Boston is pyhsical this series is a 50/50 toss up imo. Dwight Howard will be hacked early and often and will become frustrated as well.


I also think Boston will be good enough to defend Howard 1 on 1 and even if there not good enough they will most likey not rotate off the 3 point shooter's. The Majic are a great 3 point shooting team but I imagine they will have to work to make 3's in this series. The Majic have not had to work to make 3's against anybody in the playoffs yet. Imo I would let Howard beat me. Would not rotate off open shooter. If Howard beats you then live with it. I think Boston is pysical enough to push him out of the paint and if so Howard become useless offensively. Howard will not shoot the Majic to any victories so if the Celts keep him off the block they have a great chance.

Goat if we going to compare dick sizes you need to read my opening post.

[jjgold]

Carter played ok, got to hole easy, Howard killed Orlando.

[BGS 9.5]

"Majic"? Really???

[Goat Milk]

Goat if we going to compare dick sizes you need to read my opening post.

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Lyon you're analysis was spot on. River's is daring Howard. He will have a huge game next game though. Bet any Howard prop Over next game.

[shoebox]

Cavs gave the C's confidence, and you know on the college level and the pro level what that leads to. Your comparing apples and oranges here dont overthink just because the C's showed up....

Since were comparing the size of ones unit I fall slim and short

[lyon804]

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Lyon you're analysis was spot on. River's is daring Howard. He will have a huge game next game though. Bet any Howard prop Over next game.

Thanks, but I was wrong about Vince. He did what he pretty much wanted. Everything else was right though, Majic had very few good looks from 3. Most were contested in game 1. Howard can't help but play better next game.

[Goat Milk]

Thanks, but I was wrong about Vince. He did what he pretty much wanted. Everything else was right though, Majic had very few good looks from 3. Most were contested in game 1. Howard can't help but play better next game.

That's because PP guarded him the majority of that game. Rivers is going to switch Allen onto him permant. at some point in this series, so your not wrong there.. But Carter will always hit big shots down the stretch no matter who is on him- that is a given my friend.

[lyon804]

That's because PP guarded him the majority of that game. Rivers is going to switch Allen onto him permant. at some point in this series, so your not wrong there.. But Carter will always hit big shots down the stretch no matter who is on him- that is a given my friend.

I am starting to think Majic will win this series. I know or feel good about Orlando winning the game 2 but the Celtics are just tough bro. They play hate defense. They hate there man. Just tough ass competitors that know how to win.

[Goat Milk]

I am starting to think Majic will win this series. I know or feel good about Orlando winning the game 2 but the Celtics are just tough bro. They play hate defense. They hate there man. Just tough ass competitors that know how to win.

Also Celtics like it when they are dogs. When they're favorites nothing every good comes from it. They want to be disrespected.

[lyon804]

Also Celtics like it when they are dogs. When they're favorites nothing every good comes from it. They want to be disrespected.

be interesting to see how Orlando responds come game 2.