Did you guys notice?

[Goat Milk]

First off- Congrats to the Big 3- they deserve to get back to the finals.

Did you guys notice that what Mo Williams did at the end of this game? In the last minute, he told all his team mates to back up and let the Celtics shoot. Then on the offensive end (under1 minute), Lebron was standing at halfcourt (only down 9), and Mo Williams was just walking up the court.

Then in game 5, Lebron was calling for it in the post at the end of the game, and Mo wouldn't give it to him.

Mo knows something is up. I'm 100% sure there is something going on that only Mo and Lebron know. Mo knows he's either leaving, or he's not trying/is scared/just doesn't care. Rewatch the end of this game very closely- you will see.

[gshock1]

Saw the exact same thing you did...

[shoebox]

good find goat they simply gave up, hes bouncin and his team knows it


he threw the series so he did not become attached its blatently obvious

[No coincidences]

good find goat they simply gave up, hes bouncin and his team knows it


he threw the series so he did not become attached its blatently obvious

You really think he "threw the series"? Not sure I'd go that far.

[shoebox]

You really think he "threw the series"? Not sure I'd go that far.

O he did you dont go off for 21 in a qtr and then "forget" to drive to the bucket at will, this one will be talked about for some time

[Goat Milk]

Bro only Mo and Lebron know what he's going to do next season. The last minute of that game, and the last minute of game 5 said it all. It looks like nothing is going on- but look harder.

[kobefanatic]

jamison and shaq really killed the cavs this series, jamison threw up the sissy shots

[lakerboy]

his tactics and mood were very questionable. No doubt he gave up . He wont be the first to do it.

[No coincidences]

O he did you dont go off for 21 in a qtr and then "forget" to drive to the bucket at will, this one will be talked about for some time

I do agree it was pretty bizarre, but he's basically tossing his entire reputation out the window right before making the biggest decision of his life. Timing seems odd to say the least if true.

[shoebox]

I do agree it was pretty bizarre, but he's basically tossing his entire reputation out the window right before making the biggest decision of his life. Timing seems odd to say the least if true.

Like I said earlier in the season the only way he stays is if they win so he can have a chance to repeat, he wanted to still leave cleveland without looking too scumy ya know

[wrongturn]

is mo the captain of team?

[Goat Milk]

his tactics and mood were very questionable. No doubt he gave up . He wont be the first to do it.

na bro him giving up was a given.

But look what Mo Williams was doing. Mo Williams knows something about Lebron that no one else knows.

[williams22]

If you guys truly think Lebron threw the series you are out of your mind. Everything about his performance tonight screams that the elbow is badly injured. The effort was much better than game 5, it's not like 19 rebounds just fell into his lap. He was attacking on offense he just wasn't executing. Anyone who has had an elbow injury knows that it becomes painful/impossible to have a strong grip. Look how many times he had the ball stripped. They were plays he normally makes routinely. I'm not making excuses, just trying to understand the situation. Some of you guys are going way overboard with your overreactions.

Goat, it would make sense. Mo has been his closest friend on the team and has always been realistic about things. He knew this was their last game together. He also probably knows the full extent of the injury.

[shoebox]

your boys a sell out willy time to face reality

[williams22]

your boys a sell out willy time to face reality

He didn't sellout anyone. Apparently rooting for a player or team is taboo on these forums. I wish I could be as heartless as some of you.

[Dexter]

williams - you think lebron is gone?

[No coincidences]

I'm somewhere in the middle of this discussion.

I do think the elbow injury was a factor, but he's had one foot out the door for a while now and seemed to want to expedite the process in the last two games.

[shoebox]

He didn't sellout anyone. Apparently rooting for a player or team is taboo on these forums. I wish I could be as heartless as some of you.

He sold his soul to NY, what you can come into my thread and bust my balls about taking Boston against memphis but you cant take a little abuse when you put this guy on a higher pedistle than Ghandi?

[Buckeye]

He is gone. He has 0% chance of winning a championship in Cleveland.

[ngates815]

I along with lots of others thought the Cavs would roll thru the east when they picked up Jamison...didn't work out that way. Biggest bust for the Cavs was that pickup. If they would of picked up Amare, they would of been able to stop Garnett. Different series.

[wrongturn]

I agree his elbow is worse than people realize. If he had to shoot a free throw left handed near end of game, that means something serious. Because if he missed (he did), Bulls could make a 3 to tie the game.

[Goat Milk]

Dex, did you read what I noticed above? Mo is the only person that knows what Lebron is doing for sure. He's leaving. No other explaination for Mo's actions.

[ngates815]

I'm somewhere in the middle of this discussion.

I do think the elbow injury was a factor, but he's had one foot out the door for a while now and seemed to want to expedite the process in the last two games.

Anyone who says the Elbow wasn't a factor, or just an excuse, is crazy....The elbow was easily a factor, he doesn't pass up on wide open shots like he did early on in this series.

[williams22]

He sold his soul to NY, what you can come into my thread and bust my balls about taking Boston against memphis but you cant take a little abuse when you put this guy on a higher pedistle than Ghandi?

He hasn't sold his soul to anyone. I never busted your balls about anything that I can remember. I've never been anything but respectful. You've made the only personal comments recently.

[Goat Milk]

I along with lots of others thought the Cavs would roll thru the east when they picked up Jamison...didn't work out that way. Biggest bust for the Cavs was that pickup. If they would of picked up Amare, they would of been able to stop Garnett. Different series.

you're spot on bro. Amare and Lebron would have cruised into the finals. Cruised.

[ngates815]

To me Lebron is on a higher pedestal than ghandi.

[williams22]

Anyone who says the Elbow wasn't a factor, or just an excuse, is crazy....The elbow was easily a factor, he doesn't pass up on wide open shots like he did early on in this series.

To be honest, the jumpshots weren't even what convinced me. It was watching him repeatedly lose the ball tonight when it was in his right hand that told me how bad it is. My dad recently had tendonitis in his elbow and a torn bicep. He could move his arm just fine after a few weeks, but he is still unable to grip things strongly with that hand.

[shoebox]

He hasn't sold his soul to anyone. I never busted your balls about anything that I can remember. I've never been anything but respectful. You've made the only personal comments recently.

hmm shoe I gotta ask you again why did you take Boston? my models made them a strong play. "well your models are broken then"

that dont ring a bell? If you can dish it then you should be able to take it


I remember every conversation I have had with everyone

[fly fisher]

He might have zero chance of winning a championship period. Hmm what if he was in a celtic uniform next year, or miami, or dallas and not NY?

[Goat Milk]

Lebron played fine today. The Cavs lost because Jamison and Shaq were the worst pick-ups of the decade. The only worse move I can think of in the last 20 years of this league is Dumars trading Billups for A.I.

JJ Hickson would have given the Cavs a chance tonight.

[lyon804]

He might have zero chance of winning a championship period. Hmm what if he was in a celtic uniform next year, or miami, or dallas and not NY?

I don't think Boston or Dallas could sign him due to lack of cap space.

[ngates815]

To be honest, the jumpshots weren't even what convinced me. It was watching him repeatedly lose the ball tonight when it was in his right hand that told me how bad it is. My dad recently had tendonitis in his elbow and a torn bicep. He could move his arm just fine after a few weeks, but he is still unable to grip things strongly with that hand.

Maybe he forgot to powder his hands, and they were very slippery tonight? Maybe he knows he's leaving and he was very nervous all game, knowing he'd never suit up for the cavs again, and thinking about making more green than warren buffet....

[Congruency]

Then on the offensive end (under1 minute), Lebron was standing at halfcourt (only down 9), and Mo Williams was just walking up the court.

"only" down 9 with 30 seconds left

[goldnbear10]

This doesn't make 100% sense to me...

So Mo knows that Lebron is leaving, so he told the Cavs to stop playing? These two things don't seem to add up. Can someone explain this fantastical conspiracy theory?

[lyon804]

Lebron played fine today. The Cavs lost because Jamison and Shaq were the worst pick-ups of the decade. The only worse move I can think of in the last 20 years of this league is Dumars trading Billups for A.I.

JJ Hickson would have given the Cavs a chance tonight.

Yes. Very correct. Dumars was nuts for trading Billups, the leader, gamer, floor general. mr big shot.