Cavs should steamroll the Celtics tonight

shroomysoup · 05-03-10, 05:05 PM

How are they going to steamroll when they can't stop Rondo?

No coincidences · 05-03-10, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by lyon804

For all those on Boston good luck to you. Cleveland played one half only last time out and put the Celts away. Also Boston managed just 3 pts in the last 5 minutes of the game.."crunch time" Not sure i would want to back Boston here. But anything is possibble and to each his own.. A better stategy is bet Cleveland ML every game and double up if they happend to lose.. I don't think there will be much doubling up in this series.

Again, Boston has become a quick-jizzer due to their old and tired legs. To me, if the Cavs come out and played inspired ball the way I think they will following up the MVP ceremony, Boston has no chance of playing catch-up in the second half.

No coincidences · 05-03-10, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by shroomysoup

How are they going to steamroll when they can't stop Rondo?

Did you watch the 2nd half on Saturday?

shroomysoup · 05-03-10, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Did you watch the 2nd half on Saturday?

No, LOL. What adjustment did the Cavs make?

jgiun1 · 05-03-10, 05:11 PM

I think if LB posted for people to drink arsenic spiked Kool-Aid......Half the NBA board would and say it was good before they died.......Boston and the points boys

No coincidences · 05-03-10, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by jgiun1

I think if lb posted for people to drink arsenic spiked kool-aid......half the nba board would and say it was good before they died.......boston and the points boys

I'm not playing this one. If you held a gun to my head, I'd go with the Cavs. I'm just taking the under and leaving it at that.

tealish · 05-03-10, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Who wants to bet me Boston wins 2 games this series...even after they lose tonight.

Not me.

sportsfanatic · 05-03-10, 05:16 PM

cavs in 6

tealish · 05-03-10, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by sportsfanatic

cavs in 6

^Most likely result

lyon804 · 05-03-10, 05:21 PM

For you poster/bettors

that have a pot to piss in and a window to throw it out of forget the details here about....Boston this or Cleveland that or who is guarding who and who plays better than them. All the details are irrelevant here. Boston can't win this series... Cleveland could lose it, but Bosotn can't win it if you feel me. This is a 4 game winning strategy here. Take Cleveland ML every game and if they lose than double up the next game. How many games is Boston going to win here? 2 Max imo and likely 1.

I usually wouldn't advise a chase strategy, but something as obvious is this can't be passed up.

The NBA is working on getting the famed Kobe vs Lebron Finals. The ratings would be the best for that series. Only Boston fans are interested in Boston. Boston has no appeal to the average fan.

stealthyburrito · 05-03-10, 05:22 PM

celts may win two in this series, just not happening in cleveland.

BettingWizard · 05-03-10, 05:23 PM

celtics tied the rebounding battle and still couldn't cover. What are they gonna do when they inevitably lose the rebounding column by 10+?

NBAStats · 05-03-10, 05:25 PM

This should be one of the more interesting games of the year tonight. I can make an argument for either side really.

Does Doc Rivers take advantage of Mo Williams on the defensive end? Rondo can punish him off the dribble, and Ray Allen can post him up at will. Is Doc a good enough coach to take advantage of this fully? Is Brown a good enough coach to yank Mo if he continues to get abused at the defensive end? I don't know the answer to either. Brown got lucky in game one, in that Mo's dunk and subsequent offensive outburst somewhat offset his inability to cover anyone on defense.

Was the Celtics first half an abberation, or more true than their second half bomb? Conventional wisdom would say that the 2nd half was more of the norm- God knows how many times we have seen that from the Celtics in the 2nd half this year.

I certainly don't expect the Cavs to play as poorly as they did in half 1, but half two was equally as good on the other end of the spectrum. The bottom line is that Boston wins game one if Pierce and Allen shoot just reasonably well down the stretch.

Contrary to how the season has played out, I see the Boston second half as more of an abberation than the first half. The main reason for this is the shocking (at least to me) revitalization of Garnett. Game one he had 10 boards, 4 assists, 2 steals, and 3 blocks to go with 18 points. This is closer to the old KG than it is to the guy who looked like a shell of himself all year. Look, I'm THE BIGGEST KG hater on the planet, but the guy is back. In 6 games he has averaged 16 points, 9 board, 3 assists, 2 steals, and 1 block. Not quite up to par with his monster career numbers, but much better than what we have seen all year. Numbers aside, it looks like he has gotten some of his lift back too. He made some inside buckets, and didn't score every point on a jumper. Rondo is a monumental mismatch for anyone on the Cleveland roster, aside from Lebron. If Pierce can find the range, this team can beat Cleveland. I said no way going into the playoffs, but KG has made me change my mind.

I will take the Celtics all day getting four or more points in any game this series.

ANGRYBLACK · 05-03-10, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

I'm not playing this one. If you held a gun to my head, I'd go with the Cavs. I'm just taking the under and leaving it at that.

Ditto...

No coincidences · 05-03-10, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by lyon804

The NBA is working on getting the famed Kobe vs Lebron Finals. The ratings would be the best for that series. Only Boston fans are interested in Boston. Boston has no appeal to the average fan.

Couldn't agree more, lyon.

NBAStats · 05-03-10, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Couldn't agree more, lyon.

Everybody said this last year, and Orlando went to the finals anyway.

No coincidences · 05-03-10, 05:28 PM

Boston backers: are you worried that Jamison did next to nothing in Game 1, and the Cavs still covered?

NBAStats · 05-03-10, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Boston backers: are you worried that Jamison did next to nothing in Game 1, and the Cavs still covered?

I wouldn't say he did nothing. He did what he should, deferred to the hot hands on offense. He did put up 9 boards, a steal, and 2 blocks to go with his 7 points.

nicsbr · 05-03-10, 05:33 PM

why the spread went from -7.5 to -6?

Baller85 · 05-03-10, 05:35 PM

The game might even go over, the Cavs succeeded with a faster pace against this old team, and you'll have Rondo trying to push it too, but Cavs will cover.

ezmoney · 05-03-10, 05:35 PM

CLEV 7-1 ATS, 13-1 SU vs BOS at home, lay the 6.

EZ

lyon804 · 05-03-10, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by NBAStats

Everybody said this last year, and Orlando went to the finals anyway.

Well, we might be wrong again about that but Boston is not advancing to the East Finals.

NBAStats · 05-03-10, 05:40 PM

One of the keys to tonights matchup will be how Boston's anemic bench performs. They have got to get more than 14 and 12 minutes out of Tony Allen and Glen Davis. If they can get 16-18 quality minutes from each Boston wins this game.

lakerboy · 05-03-10, 05:42 PM

Well lets see what happens. I have seen people thinking Boston is gonna win

NBAStats · 05-03-10, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Well lets see what happens. I have seen people thinking Boston is gonna win

I'm not a fan of going against you at all, just loving the C's tonight. Certainly wouldn't be the first time I was wrong, I have been fade material in bases and baskets for over a week.

Goat Milk · 05-03-10, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by NBAStats

One of the keys to tonights matchup will be how Boston's anemic bench performs. They have got to get more than 14 and 12 minutes out of Tony Allen and Glen Davis. If they can get 16-18 quality minutes from each Boston wins this game.

Pretty rare, a person on this forum with some NBA knowledge. Rivers doesn't know how to use his bench though. He puts guys out at the wrong times, and his rotations are terrible.

yuperz · 05-03-10, 05:46 PM

i think BOston played Their A game on game1 ...and they still lost and didnt even cover............soooooodere u go

lyon804 · 05-03-10, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Well lets see what happens. I have seen people thinking Boston is gonna win

after they were pumped in the 2H and was held to 3 points in the last 5minutes of the game... Yea,Give me Boston ML and Boston +6

Them folks are braver than me. The easy strategy is take Cleveland ML every game and double up if they lose. I can't see Boston winning more than 2 games in this series max so there won't be much doubling up.

NBAStats · 05-03-10, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Pretty rare, a person on this forum with some NBA knowledge. Rivers doesn't know how to use his bench though. He puts guys out at the wrong times, and his rotations are terrible.

Rivers has been known to mismanage alot of things. He caught hell in the reg season for resting the starters too much, but that was one of his only great calls this year. With that being said, Rondo is the only one who should be playing close to 40 minutes. KG and Pierce specifically have played really well in the playoffs when rested, but have lost their legs late in games. Rivers has to play the reserves more to have a shot. I know it must be hell putting in what he has on the bench, but it's his only hope to win.

Goat Milk · 05-03-10, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by NBAStats

Rivers has been known to mismanage alot of things. He caught hell in the reg season for resting the starters too much, but that was one of his only great calls this year. With that being said, Rondo is the only one who should be playing close to 40 minutes. KG and Pierce specifically have played really well in the playoffs when rested, but have lost their legs late in games. Rivers has to play the reserves more to have a shot. I know it must be hell putting in what he has on the bench, but it's his only hope to win.

No, it's not hell. Boston has a solid bench. Rivers doesn't know how to use them. He doesn't know who to put on the floor at the same time. Nate Robinson should be in the rotation, and you can't be putting Tony Allen and Daniels on the court at the same time. Sheed should be on the floor when Shaq or Big Z are in the game to stretch them, not when Varajuo is in. If Rivers wasn't a moron, he'd move pierce to the point during the last 3-4 minutes of the third quarter, and stretch with all shooters, Ray, Finely, Sheed, and Garnett/Davis. All of these rotation mismanagements are a big reason why teams lose games.

Snowball · 05-03-10, 06:00 PM

Was listening to local radio and heard a "call for free pick" ad..

called.. they called back.. Jonathan Stone.

his pick in the first game is Celtics ML and +6.5

just wanted to hear .. frankly i was surprised, expecting Cavs.

THEGREAT30 · 05-03-10, 06:02 PM

I like the over again, good day

lakerboy · 05-03-10, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by lyon804

after they were pumped in the 2H and was held to 3 points in the last 5minutes of the game... Yea,Give me Boston ML and Boston +6

Them folks are braver than me. The easy strategy is take Cleveland ML every game and double up if they lose. I can't see Boston winning more than 2 games in this series max so there won't be much doubling up.

Cavs ml is safe for sure tonight. Boston wins 1 game in this series.

lyon804 · 05-03-10, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

No, it's not hell. Boston has a solid bench. Rivers doesn't know how to use them. He doesn't know who to put on the floor at the same time. Nate Robinson should be in the rotation, and you can't be putting Tony Allen and Daniels on the court at the same time. Sheed should be on the floor when Shaq or Big Z are in the game to stretch them, not when Varajuo is in. If Rivers wasn't a moron, he'd move pierce to the point during the last 3-4 minutes of the third quarter, and stretch with all shooters, Ray, Finely, Sheed, and Garnett/Davis. All of these rotation mismanagements are a big reason why teams lose games.

Goat, is it fare to say that both coaches are a "little challenged"? I don't know if Mike Brown is any smarter than Rivers. The difference is Brown is working with the best player in the game and a deep team.

lyon804 · 05-03-10, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by Snowball

Was listening to local radio and heard a "call for free pick" ad..

called.. they called back.. Jonathan Stone.

his pick in the first game is Celtics ML and +6.5

just wanted to hear .. frankly i was surprised, expecting Cavs.

Bless you heart young man.. Those low lifes will call your phone for as long as you have it..

Funny thing is I called Jonathan Stone also and he gave me Cleveland -6. I guess he gave us both sides so he was guranteed to have half his callers win