Tim Duncan vs Kobe Bryant vs Carmelo Anthony vs Lebron James

jjgold · 05-02-10, 05:28 PM

Carmelo Anything not even in discussion

Guy is a loser

acarmelo1 · 05-02-10, 05:35 PM

you do not like Carmelo Anthony?

S.K.M. · 05-02-10, 06:30 PM

I agree Carmelo not even in discussion and until Lebron wins a couple championships he isn't either...

Jonah · 05-02-10, 06:47 PM

Lebron James is.

aguchis · 05-02-10, 06:55 PM

Lebron obvio

aguchis · 05-02-10, 06:56 PM

Leron

aguchis · 05-02-10, 06:56 PM

Nice

williams22 · 05-02-10, 06:59 PM

Is this really a discussion? One of those guys just won the MVP with 116 out of 123 first place votes, who the hell do you think is the best?

Vesuvius · 05-02-10, 07:02 PM

right now?

1. Bron
2. Kobe
3. Timmy
4. Melo

all time up until this point? well that's a different story.

Goat Milk · 05-02-10, 07:03 PM

are you talking right now or all time?

If you're talking all time (as in if they all retired today):
1) Kobe 2) Duncan 3) Lebron

Today
1) Bron 2) Kobe 3) Mello 4) Duncan

Why is Mello even here?

Cubs4591 · 05-02-10, 07:03 PM

Kobe is the best!!

acarmelo1 · 05-02-10, 07:06 PM

well I was talking in regards to those 4 guys

stealthyburrito · 05-02-10, 07:10 PM

LBJ, kobe, timmy, and melo in that order.

acarmelo1 · 05-02-10, 07:11 PM

who is better than Carmelo to be putted in that list? Rondo? The chinnes guy that got hurt last year from houston?

jlgarciaiii22 · 05-02-10, 07:11 PM

KOBE... End of discussion!

williams22 · 05-02-10, 07:12 PM

Durant and Wade should both be above Melo and Duncan. Deron Williams as well. There are others too.

Tree Rollins · 05-02-10, 07:19 PM

Lebron has a chance to top that list. It depends though on if you're talking about all-time, or today. All time it's Kobe, duncan, Lebron, then melo. Today Lebron might be the most gifted player. If i had to win 1 game though, tomorrow, and a threesome with Jessica Alba and Beyonce depended on it, i'd take Kobe.

gryfyn1 · 05-02-10, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

are you talking right now or all time?

If you're talking all time (as in if they all retired today):
1) Kobe 2) Duncan 3) Lebron

Today
1) Bron 2) Kobe 3) Mello 4) Duncan

Why is Mello even here?

this

tealish · 05-02-10, 08:40 PM

Goat, interested on your take: All time, Wade or LeBron?

BrigadierPudding · 05-02-10, 09:00 PM

Lebron.

Durant is better than Carmelo.

Goat Milk · 05-02-10, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by tealish

Goat, interested on your take: All time, Wade or LeBron?

If they both retired today....
They go down on the same level. You won't be able to put 1 ahead of the other, Bron has the two MVPs, but Wade's been in the discussion every year, just been playing with shit guys. Wade has the hardware, and the finals MVP; Bron offensive stats are a little better, Wade has better defensive stats. Both have scoring titles.

LeBron needs the ring this year to give him the edge.

jsmithj88 · 05-02-10, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by BrigadierPudding

Lebron. Durant is better than Carmelo.

y is durant better than carmelo?

tealish · 05-02-10, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

If they both retired today.... They go down on the same level. You won't be able to put 1 ahead of the other, Bron has the two MVPs, but Wade's been in the discussion every year, just been playing with shit guys. Wade has the hardware, and the finals MVP; Bron offensive stats are a little better, Wade has better defensive stats. Both have scoring titles. LeBron needs the ring this year to give him the edge.

Fair assessment. I'd say LeBron is a hair or two ahead of Wade, but not much at all.

williams22 · 05-02-10, 09:57 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

If they both retired today....
They go down on the same level. You won't be able to put 1 ahead of the other, Bron has the two MVPs, but Wade's been in the discussion every year, just been playing with shit guys. Wade has the hardware, and the finals MVP; Bron offensive stats are a little better, Wade has better defensive stats. Both have scoring titles.

LeBron needs the ring this year to give him the edge.

I'd agree mostly, although I think Lebron's passing and leadership put him on top. Wade isn't a bad passer, but he doesn't create for guys like Lebron does.

NickS8753 · 05-02-10, 09:58 PM

hahahahha. lebron beats anyone. tell you why: too fast for someone with similar strength, too strong for someone his speed. he doesnt show it at all times, but he could score on anyone at anytime. he is actually smart enough to realize teams never win playoffs with one good player, they need to develop role players.

S.K.M. · 05-02-10, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by acarmelo1

who is better than Carmelo to be putted in that list? Rondo? The chinnes guy that got hurt last year from houston?

Are you being serious or just yanking our chain? You are talking about Rondo and Yao Ming!

Powderguy · 05-02-10, 09:59 PM

Duncan

WTF, get him off there

Goat Milk · 05-02-10, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by williams22

I'd agree mostly, although I think Lebron's passing and leadership put him on top. Wade isn't a bad passer, but he doesn't create for guys like Lebron does.

That's not true at all. Wade is one of the best playmakers in the league; look at the assists he's averaged throughout his career. If you put the guys Lebron has around Wade he'd average 9 assists per game. Lebron is a better passer, but they both are on the same level in terms of making plays for others.

And I'm not sure how you can determine Lebron is a better leader than Wade. You can't validate that statement.

ThisGuy · 05-02-10, 10:17 PM

Lebron does seem like a more supportive leader. Tough to know how Lebron would talk/body language if he had that team around him though.

williams22 · 05-02-10, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

That's not true at all. Wade is one of the best playmakers in the league; look at the assists he's averaged throughout his career. If you put the guys Lebron has around Wade he'd average 9 assists per game. Lebron is a better passer, but they both are on the same level in terms of making plays for others.

And I'm not sure how you can determine Lebron is a better leader than Wade. You can't validate that statement.

Maybe a better passer is a better way to describe it. Lebron has better court vision than Wade and makes much crisper passes. Watch how often Lebron is able to throw bullet crosscourt passes straight to a shooter's hands.

Lebron and Wade both played on Team USA and Lebron was the leader of the team. Coach K went as far as to say that Lebron is the most natural leader he's ever come in contact with. I also think the closeness that Lebron has been able to develop within the Cavs organization often gets overlooked, but he's the one who has created it.

tealish · 05-02-10, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by williams22

Maybe a better passer is a better way to describe it. Lebron has better court vision than Wade and makes much crisper passes. Watch how often Lebron is able to throw bullet crosscourt passes straight to a shooter's hands. Lebron and Wade both played on Team USA and Lebron was the leader of the team. Coach K went as far as to say that Lebron is the most natural leader he's ever come in contact with. I also think the closeness that Lebron has been able to develop within the Cavs organization often gets overlooked, but he's the one who has created it.

But speaking of that USA team, LeBron was at best, the 3rd most important player on that roster.

williams22 · 05-02-10, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by tealish

But speaking of that USA team, LeBron was at best, the 3rd most important player on that roster.

How do you figure?

tealish · 05-02-10, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by williams22

How do you figure?

One guy carried USA the entire tournament.
Another guy carried USA in the rare moment when the gold was in doubt.
Neither were named LeBron.

williams22 · 05-02-10, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by tealish

One guy carried USA the entire tournament.
Another guy carried USA in the rare moment when the gold was in doubt.
Neither were named LeBron.

I'm going to assume you are referring to Wade and Kobe. Lebron was the backbone of that team, both in games and in practice. The stats may tell you otherwise, but I think the players and the coaches of that team would agree.